#catie is: extremely salty

[skitskatdacat63]

hi catie u can write as many paragraphs on any film that u watch!!! i think that would be neat :)

also DISCLAIMER i havent watched killers of the flower moon, nor have i fully researched the real life event, but i feel like one of the reasons that people think it’s peak cinema is that it’s really really long and (i am assuming) that it has some interesting cinematography?

idk it reminds me of oppenheimer (film i actually watched). like its good-ish, super lengthy, and portray historical events. the visuals were fantastic but i don’t think it was absolutely perfect and the best film of the century, etc etc…

i honestly dont know where i was going with this so sorry for the super lengthy ask 😭

OKAY THEO THANK YOU FOR FREEING ME FROM THE SHACKLES OF MY INSECURITY

Okay as a preface. Watched this with my mom who read the book it's based off of, so that's an additional perspective I'm gonna touch on, and also was very glad to have. And also YES I HAVE SEEN OPPENHEIMER!!!! Seriously my ultimate film of 2023, probably one of my favorite movies I've ever watched. And I guess I thought that, because I enjoyed that, I would enjoy Killers of the Flower Moon(KotFM from now on), for the exact reasons you stated! Also I'm trying to watch all the oscar nominated best pictures before the event lol!

I will rant now, thank you :)

I'm sorry but like I genuinely don't understand how it's so highly acclaimed???? Like how are all the popular/majority of reviews positive?? Did we watch the same film????? Have I somehow lost my taste for cinema???? It's just like, any argument I've seen about why it's actually amazing is so easy to dispute??

"It's about how evil can be done by normal people and that's why it's from the perspective of the perpetrators blah blah" Well, I just watched The Zone of Interest, and I think it portrayed that concept wayyyyy better. Everything was so off-putting and disturbing, and it was from the perspective of the perpetrators, just like KotFM! And you literally never see those getting murdered, because it's all off screen and yet you still feel disgusted and feel terrible about what's happening, even though you didn't techinally see anything that happened. Meanwhile in KOTFM, the Osage are there on screen, actively being exploited and murdered, and I just don't feel attached to any of it, because it wasn't fleshed out well. And to add on, my mom said so much of the stuff involving Leo's character, yknow the character they picked as the main character instead of the actual Native Americans, was just completely made-up! Wasn't in the book at all!!! Martin Scorcese said that he read the book, and immediately thought that it was a book that needed to be adapted to film. And then just fucking makes up shit???? Yes certainly you have to add narrative stuff into a movie when adapting from a book, but to just make so much shit up just so you can portray it from a different angle is so bullshit to me.

"Every minute in the almost 3½ hour runtime is justified" I am convinced people are straight up lying, I'm sorry. It's not like I don't enjoy long movies! Loved Lawrence of Arabia, that's literally almost 4 hours long. Loved Oppenheimer, that's 3 hours long. I like long movies but oh my god, this was just a complete slog. And I kept seeing people say that the last hour was the best, well I'm sorry but after having to sit through 2½ torturous hours, I just have no mental energy left for what's apparently called the best part. I hate that people always start calling movies with long runtime cinema. Yes there are movies I definitely think are worth the long runtime; this one was not one of them.

"The main heart of the movie is the romance" Oh my god, this bugs me so much. I was so happy about Lily Gladstone winning and being in teh running for awards....until I watched the actual movie. Her romance with Leo's character literally makes no sense, and I felt just so ???? about it. The movie wants you to think they're so compelling and that it's so unfortunate that Leo's character is doing these terrible things to this woman he loves and her family, but they literally spent zero time fleshing the relationship out???? It was literally like, oh hey they're in a relationship now, don't really get why, but okay. There's actual reasons about why she would marry him(she literally needs a white man's permission to get access to her own money), but no nooooo they're so in love. There is zero build up. She knows he wants her money, he has literally zero charm, and yet she marries him and says "yeah I know he wants my money, but he's handsome!!" In what world!?!?!?? And a lot of the last section is like, awww they're hugging...even tho he murdered her whole family. And its just you get zero sense of any love between them, because they failed to build it in the first place, and certainly you could make this plot compelling but it's just not!!! It's not!!!!!

Another thing is that for basically all of the movie, I really couldn't get a grasp of anything that was going on. It didn't feel like a connected narrative for me, it felt like vignettes. Like, oh hey we're in this scene now I guess, I don't really know how this connects, or whats going on, or where we are in the story! It just felt very discombobulating for me, maybe I'm stupid, but I couldn't get a grasp on it. And I basically knew the plot, and so did my mom of course, but neither of us could really follow it so, maybe that's not a me problem, but a problem with the film! And I think vignettes can be used well, I thought The Zone of Interest did it really well, where you're just voyeuristiclly watching the family, and there's really no narrative, bur it was really effective. KofFM was more like, oh they're trying to tell a story here, but just not ...well. it's even worse when it's so long, because you're just feeling constantly unconnected from the story and its a slog and it's terrible, etc etc. You're just watching the characters fucking meander around, and you're like, man, would love it if it felt like the plot was actually progressing. And so much of it felt like the big events happened off screen, and you're kinda just told that they happened.

Also okay so the book itself is framed somewhat as a murder mystery. It's very well researched, and it slowly gives you the truth, as if you're learning it alongside the actual people involved. In the film, it's literally so obvious within the first 15 mins who the bad guys are. So you're just spending the whole film, watching all these characters(who you really have no reason to care about imo) die, and they all come off as so naive, and you're just furiously gesturing like "does no one notice these cartoonishly bad guys!?!?!?!?!" Yes, you can do a film where you know the truth from the beginning and watch the cast find out, that's a great concept! But this just made the native American characters come off as stupid and naive, and you're supposed to feel bad for them, and I do, but because I know the actial history, not because anything the film is showing me. Again, they don't flesh out the characters well at all imo, so you watch then die, and you're like, okay this person died, this is a depressing situation, but god, can they figure it out already. Again, the narrative with Lily Gladstone's character is that she loves her husband, so she can't really see what's going on. But. That love is not believable. And before they're in love, she's very suspicious of him, and yet now somehow when he's killing off her whole family, it's fine?????

Ugh okay yeah I don't know what else to say, except thst I just feel like I wasted so much of my time, and it really sucked out my energy. I'd like to be more concise, and I probably have more complaints but again, it really just killed my brain. And also that's its very frustrating and isolating when you hated a film, and then all the reviews are extremely positive and you can't see where any of them are coming from. The funniest part is that my mom and I are like wow this movie feels like it's been going on a while, let's check how much is left! Literally only halfway through. I really could not fully focus after that because I was like, I cannot do almost 2 more hours of this shit. I wanted to finish it because i was really hoping it would pick up, and I would realize why everyone likes it so much, but that never happened, I just felt increasingly bored and done with it. I think with Oppenheimer, a film I love, I was originally kinda unsure but as it kept going, I fell in love with it and didn't want it to end; so I guess I was hoping that would happen with this and it never did. It just got increasingly more boring for me, and I just got more aggravated about it. Also cannot believe I saw reviews saying of Scorcese's films, this one was better than The Departed. Absolutely no way.

Anyways this was extremely salty, oops. Wish I could get those 3 hours back, and watch some other movie instead. I wanted to watch Dallas Buyers Club or Tár, but I just feel like I've wasted enough mental energy tonight. Also lol, kept meaning to post this but it's deranged, but I'm talking about movies already and my brain is all over the place so might as well! I really want to rewatch Interstellar, but I feel like it'll completely emotionally destroy me again so I can't. Y'know when you just like a movie so much and ir means so much to you that it's just way too emotionally investing to rewatch!?!??! But I keep thinking about it, bcs im super into matthew mcconaughey rn, but god I really can't or I'll just be sobbing and hurting.

* oh also. My original complaint abt this was that they used a historically inaccurate word. They used the word "genocide" which certainly describes the situation they're in, BUT THAT WORD WAS NOT INVENTED YET!!!!! It's so easy to check that??? Like we know when and who coined it???? Little things like that really bug me, sorry LOL. Its like man, you can't check that one little thing??

#catie is: extremely salty #oh my god im so sorry for this its so fucking long #but thank you theo truly for getting rid of my inhibitions #so hahaha here you guys go. i guess. #oh wait forgot to mention smth funny #when talking about oscars with my mom #she said that martin Scorcese should win Best Director bcs its a shame hes never won it #anf then midway thru this shes like nah he doesnt deserve it for this LOL #catie.asks.

[brokeneisenglas]

I was tagged by the wonderful @rinobotka to do the eleven questions! So, rules... #1) Respond ONLY if you want to. #2-?) Answer eleven questions, create eleven questions, tag eleven people (include the person who tagged you). 

1) Nostalgic food?

Hmm... I don’t really know which foods would be nostalgic for me. I’ve progressively lost taste, except for some extremely sweet, extremely salty, or extremely savory foods. But, if I had to say something that makes me think of growing up? Hamburger helper and spaghetti.

2)What are two seemingly different YouTubers/artists/etc do you like??

Well, I just found this Youtube channel that I think I will continue to enjoy: Maqaroon. The channel hasn’t updated in a while, but, I’ve found some plushies on it that I’m gonna make for Christmas for people. As for another Youtuber? Um, I watch a lot of Markiplier, Jacksepticeye, and Tested. I prefer to watch gamers than to play myself, and, I really enjoy Adam Savage’s projects and nerdiness.

3) Side dish: rice, pasta, bread, or potato??

Most times, a type of potato side.

4) 2d animation or 3d animation??

Hmm... Depends. 

5) Song that is currently stuck in your head/on repeat right now?

Ciara’s cover of Paint it Black

6) What is one relatively unknown piece of media/story that you wished others would know about?

Oh goodness... I saw this recent post about the Venus of Willendorf, as well as other “Venuses” of the prehistoric age. What the writer’s suggested was that against original popular belief that men carved these miniature sculptures so that they had something to take with them of their women, or that they were carved by religious leaders or some such as goddesses of fertility. Instead, the writers suggested that women carved them of themselves. It’s a really neat proposition, because, if we take photos from a personal perspective and look downward, the venuses are shaped as though looking down the body.

7) Steampunk or cyberpunk? (other punk?)

I had to look up Cyberpunk. I thought it was just mostly nakedness. Which, is what showed up in the image search.

As much as I don’t mind skin and nudity, I like steampunk better. 

8) Are you inclined to science/math or social sciences/art/humanities?

Haha, so, funny thing.

I LOVE math. Tolerate science.

I HATED history. LOVED art. Tolerated social studies.

I’m an Art History major.

9) Space or the ocean?

I want to see the World from above, but I think it may make me finally reach true insanity.

The ocean is more realistic a dream. I would like to swim with dolphins and pet a shark.

10) Cartoony art style or detail art style?

Stylized. Can be either, for sure. If I’m doing my own art, I have to tell myself it’s okay not to look realistic, and that style is more important.

11) Giant robot friend or small robot friend?

... Medium robot friend? My hope is that my car will transform one day, stand up, and ask me how I’m doing.

NEW QUESTIONS:

1) If you could live anywhere on Earth (or, another planet) where would it be?

2) What is your favorite animal gif/ video? Why?

3) Do you like pizza? If yes, what is your favorite pizza/pizza topping?

4) What is your favorite book/movie/artwork?

5) (recycled)  What is one relatively unknown piece of media/story that you wished others would know about?

6) Experience the world right side up or upside down?

7) Prefer taste but no smell, or smell with no taste?

8) If you remember your dreams or have dreams... What’s you most recent good/bad dream?

9) What was your first fandom you ever joined? When? And, are you still part of that fandom now?

10) Favorite commercial of all time? (Or, least favorite commercial...)

11) If only ONE genre of movies/shows could be created from this day forward, which would you choose?

+1)) What’s your opinion on pen pals? Silly, stupid, wasteful, fun, etc.?

TAGS!!!!! So, I realized... I don’t like tagging people because I don’t want anyone to feel obligated to answer but... here we go. 

@chills-of-fire @supreem-chibi-queen @adilia-the-kouhai @zombieheroine @andromedaprime @matrixbearer @bold-sartorial-statement @catie-brie @littlemisstfp @euphoric-muses @primus-why

#fun things #questions #rinobotka #silliness #love these things! #asks and tags!