SO
SO YA’LL SAW THE NEW VIDEO MARKIPLIER DROPPED, RIGHT? GOOD. BECAUSE I’M ABOUT TO SCREAM ME AND MY DISCORD SERVER’S THEORY.
ALSO WARNING! THIS IS A VERY VERY VERY LONG POST!
SO SHOUT OUT TO MY FRIENDS RUBY, TEAR, SAGE, AND JIM (AND MY COUSIN YAMI) BECAUSE THEY ALL CONTRIBUTED TO THIS
(image description: my friend, who’s discord name is displayed as “DaddyStabby” talking about Wilf saying “BECAUSE HE CAN SEE AND HAS SEEN SO MANY REALITIES AND TIMELINES, HE CAN’T REMEMBER WHICH ONE HE’S IN”)
so first of, THAT is a thing
and second of all, i’m sure ya’ll were as confused as I was about how it seemed like Wilford could borderline fucking teleport, and other weird shit (like the bullet going through him, Abe suddenly having the gunshot in his chest again, etc)
so our theory is:
Abe is in purgatory. (and..also that..timeline thing.)
let me explain:
first of all, he was SHOT IN THE HEART. Wilford even states in the video, “Just like it’s impossible..to survive a bullet...through the heart.”
(image description: Wilford in the “Wilford ‘MOTHERLOVING’ Warfstache” video with the caption “Just like it’s impossible to survive a bullet” missing the caption “Through the heart.”)
(Image: Abe looking down to see the gunshot wound over his heart.)
Which, is basically true. There are some cases of people surviving that but Abe was in a mansion with only Wilford left (consider Abe’s Partner/The perspective of whoever the viewer can see got shot after and fell off the railing) and considering the fact that when they (+Damien and Celine) woke up as Dark they were still in the mansion, which means Wilford never called an ambulance or anything. So he would have died.
Second of all: What he says after he looks down to see the gunshot wound.
(image: Abe looking down at the gunshot with the caption, “This was all a nightmare I couldn’t wake up from.”)
“I couldn’t wake up from.” Need I say more? Purgatory is endless suffering (or whatever) so I think it could be described as “a nightmare you can’t wake up from.”
Along with this, after Wilford makes sure Abe doesn’t pass out, he says,
(Image: Wilford with the caption “It was a bit of a shock for me, too.”)
Wilford can see different timelines and such, as my friend Sage said, right? What if this is some sort of anomaly timeline where Abe wasn’t supposed to be stuck in purgatory? What if he was supposed to go to heaven, or hell, or wherever he would’ve gone?
Another thing:
“Life needed a bit of madness, but why should death be any different?”
(image: Wilford with the caption “Life needed a bit of madness, but why should death be a need?”)
Needed. Past tense. Mark makes sure to make some very complex and detailed things, so I feel like past tense “needed” is extremely important. It implies he’s dead. This is his afterlife/purgatory. Now, “but why should death be a need?” is messed up in that caption. Without headphones, it’s hard to hear. But I have LBT Lab headphones that are extremely loud, and when I crank them up I hear “But why should death be any different?” This can be thrown up in the air for interpretation, but I believe that he was referring to the madness of the case because Abe had been working on it for years and had lost track of time.
(”But I think the stress is getting to you a little bit, you need to unwind”)
But also Abe has been stressing out too much in this inescapable purgatory.
That’s all the proof from this part of the video.
But something I would like to mention is this:
(Image: The VHS transition back to the club-whatever-thing as Wilford says “Just for tonight, why don’t we....”)
This is an oddly specific transition. Don’t tell me it was only because he didn’t want to show the change of background, because we all know damn well he could have used something similar to a blink, or maybe even other transitions I can’t think of.
I like to believe that this is just a small, unrelated nod to Darkiplier (Considering since Darkiplier didn’t exist till Abe had died) but if you have other theories, let me know!
So this post is kind of a mess, but I have more proof from the other half of the video when Wilford first escaped out of the rope. I’m not gonna lie, there may be a few hints of evidence (how easily he avoided the gunshots...etc...) but those aren’t that important
One thing I do wanna mention is how Wilford shows up in the background while he’s also at gunpoint. I know some might see as a silly gag but maybe it’s another Wilford from a different timeline?
Also: Wilford being in Abe’s head. That’s not exactly logical is it. What do you suppose that could mean?
So let’s go back to where he escapes the ropes.
(Image: Wilford in front of the corkboard saying, “There we all are!” as Abe turns and pulls his gun out.)
This. I’m sure this was confusing, right? After all, the transition happened offscreen.
Offscreen.
You know how I mentioned Wilford showing up in the background while he was at gunpoint and suggesting it was a Wilford from a different timeline? Now, what if Wilford had hopped into a different timeline, moved a bit, and hopped back into this timeline, where he has now moved out of the ropes and in front of the corkboard.
(Wilford seeming distanced while saying “Sorry that I didn’t remember you. Memories start to get jumbled after a while.”
This..off into space look. “Memories start to get jumbled after a while.”
Sure, it’s possible to forget things, but if he was so fond of Abe and Celine and the others, wouldn’t he remember? I’m sure I have fond memories I might never forget, but I can’t jump around timelines. Imagine finding the ability you could travel timelines. You’d surely want to see things that happened in the other timelines, right? After so many timelines...what actually happened and what was just another timeline?
(Abe: HOW THE HELL DO YOU KEEP DOING THAT!?)
Another jump between the timelines, this time to get out of gunpoint.
(Wilford: Things get jumbled so easily! The when, the where, they why, the how of it all; who can keep track of it?)
More memory shenanigans. How many timelines actually exist? Think, all these choices that could have created new timelines.
(Wilford: It’s worth a shot!)
He’s so carefree about nearly getting tied up again. He knows he can slip out of it easily.
Wilford: The train..oh, I remember the train! How long were we stuck in the snow for?
Abe: ...What?
Wilford: Oh, you don’t remember- that’s okay. Probably hasn’t happened yet. But some of your finest work, I have to say- a little spoiler alert for later to make it easier on you, we all did it..hehe….
Do I really have to say it? He recalled an event that hasn’t happened yet. One that had probably, already happened in a different timeline.
(Wilford putting his finger up on the gun as if he’s shushing it and going to kiss it.)
THE FUCKING BULLET PHASED THROUGH HIM. We have one of two solutions: The timeline jump was so fast we didn’t see it, or in Abe’s purgatory Wilford can’t die or be captured. Because he’s always going to escape.
Another guess (that kind of goes along to maybe why Wilford is there) is that there’s a part of his subconscious that won’t let Wilford die. that’s maybe warping this purgatory or limbo or whatever to make sure that he doesn’t die. (That bit was also suggested by Sage.)
(Wilford: I don’t really know, honestly. I-I-I don’t understand anything anymore, but I do remember you.)
(Wilford: I’m sorry.)
Now this part was sure one hell of a ride. He hugged the man he had shot in the heart and said “I’m sorry.” Maybe it’s Abe’s subconscious warping this place to believe that Wilford was still a good person and didn’t mean it? Maybe Wilford has just seen so many endings to this scenario that he wants to see a different one. Maybe he’s sorry for everything in other timelines- things that Abe wouldn’t know, but Wilford has seen so many timelines at this point, how can he know what actually happened in this timeline?
(Wilford: Exactly! None of this makes any sense. That’s the beauty of it.)
Why would Wilford gain the ability to see timelines? What’s real and what isn’t anymore? It’s been years since the events of Who Killed Markiplier? and it’s been years since Mark stole Damien’s body and Damien and Celine and Abe’s partner formed Darkiplier. And how would any of that make sense to Wilford? He was convinced that in the end, that it was all a silly prank. Would death even matter if he can just travel to a timeline where they’re still alive? After all, in the video after mentioning Damien’s picture, he does mumble to himself “Maybe I should check up on how he’s doing..” None of this makes sense. And now, they’re in this limbo-purgatory thing. So does it really even matter?
Abe: When was our closest encounter?
Wilford: Yes.
Abe: Before this very moment.
Wilford: Yes.
Abe: That’s easy. It was when we.....When- we.....We..uhm, you...Yeah..eah….It was when.....you uhm...That’s when you......I was hunting you down. I was stalking you. But you fled the country..to….uh....Uhm... Alright, alright...yeah, yeah-eah you-you you were off the radar for three years. But I got a hot tip that you check up in...Uhm...In..uhm..uh...You checked up with....uh...! Uh....uhm….
Wilford: Three years, was it? What year was that, exactly?
Abe: uhm..uh..It was...it was uhm..uh..wh-wh..(unintelligible mumbling) It was in..It was...it was..uhm….I can’t remember. I...I’ve, uh...I’ve obsessed over this case for years. Every moment of every day...spent trying to hunt you down. So why can't I remember....? …….am I crazy?
This might seem like a stall for time, but think about this. He strains to remember, but he can’t. And he doesn't know why. Wouldn’t a detective write down dates, keep track of everything, journal, something? Some kind of log? But there’s no actual sense of time. There’s no day and night, no passing of years, just what feels like years. He’s probably been dead for years, but in this purgatory-limbo of his, there’s no escape and there’s no passage of time. He can’t remember some important details, only what matters right now.
“It's impossible. To know things. That haven’t happened yet.”
This is a huge clue to it the fact that he’s dead too. None of this ever actually happened, this is just some purgatory-limbo. Nothing matters. No one knows about it. Anyone else just knows that he’s dead. No one truly knows what goes on in the afterlife, do they?
“Yes, exactly. Just like it’s impossible to survive a bullet through the heart.”
He’s trying to show him. To let him know that’s he’s dead. That this is some purgatory. He wants Abe to escape this.
And so that’s our theory! Please, let me know if you have anything to add on or any questions or even if you just want to chat about this! (I may or may not have spent 2-3 hours typing this, haha....) Thank you for reading, and I apologize for it being so long!
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