#except with jafar. holy crap

[slashingdisneypasta]

Omg is there a way for us handful of Scroop enjoyers to get together to watch the movie? Like imagine just 5 strangers living different lives in different places all getting comfy on a couch in pyjamas and watching Treasure Planet together? And every time Scroop is on screen we wolf whistle and throw popcorn lol

I’ve seen the film countless times from when I was a toddler to now in my mid twenties and always had to hide my interest/attraction to the creepy, crusty villain from family and friends.

Like even as a little kid I’d never been interested in the heroes, always just the villains. Whenever there was a scene like the interactions between Jim and Scroop or what was happening between 2010 Alice in Wonderland and Stayne I got two thoughts: omg what if that happened to me 😳 followed by NO don’t act weird, nobody must know about these fantasies 💀

Seriously it’s been like this ever since I can remember. And now seeing likeminded people with the same interests is awesome. I love how we get ideas for AUs and stuff and share them and feed off each other 😍

AHH MY MAN I WOULD BE SO INTO THAT OMGYOU DONT EVEN KNOW XD I don't have any friends in my non-internet life either who get ittttttt 😭 That sleepover sounds like the absolute best holy shit. And so soft!!! My heart-

We can bring our sleeping bags or our doonas and snacks and play Disney Villain would you rather and kiss-marry-kill XDDD Like would you rather- oh Scroop! Scroop! It's him, where's the popcorn-

I'll bring plums and we can all pretend it's purps XDDD

Honestly my man holy shit- this idea is actually sending me its so sweet and wholesome. I needd this! 💛💛💛

Scroop lovers, comment if you're in XD

#i can completelyyyy relate to you man!! #except with jafar. holy crap #my eyes would be like- glued to the screen when he was on it XD #but also thinking ha ha ha- whats wrong with me- #conceal dont fee l conceal dont feel conceal dont feel dont let them k n o w... #XDDD

[sieben9]

“heart of the matter” impressions

{Quick request to anyone reading: I’m watching OUaT for the first time, and I want to avoid spoilers. So, if you want to discuss something spoilery, I’d be grateful if you could start a new post for that. Thank you!}

Hello to everyone reading on this fine Thursday! Everything is terrible!

But, on the bright side, the Tweedle-mystery has been solved!

I now have a handy reference picture and I’m at least 70% certain which one is which.

The terribleness is under the cut. Finales are great and fun, and you should not watch them when you have to write a lab protocol. (Don’t worry, it’s not due before Wednesday.)

There is something inherently satisfying about realising that you’re in the final stretch of the story. You’ve watched while all those little plot-dominos got set up, and now someone pushed over the first in line. Things are going off big time.

For example, the wholething with Will’s heart.

someone please stop Barbara Hershey, she stole all the scenes and ran away with them

Now I only need to see how Alice got it back for him, and we’re done with this section of dominoes.

You know, I suspect Cora doesn’t even think of what she does here as “ruining lives”. That bit just comes to her as naturally as breathing. And I have to say, this is distinctly more satisfying than Ana hearing one good speech about the advantages of having power and never having any second thoughts until years later. Or Will just giving up once he saw her on that balcony. They both tried to get back to each other, and they were deliberately kept apart, because someone was projecting on a certain young woman. Hard.

“prove them all wrong”, indeed

And something else I really, really loved: Will actually asked for his heart to be taken out. The numbness wasn’t a pleasant side-effect he discovered after Cora took the thing away from him, this was specifically what he wanted and holy crap, does that give context to so much of his character.

By the way, Cora, I don’t want to deny you your right to come to a rendezvous with your lover to let him know you’d rather take your own heart out than be with him, but don’t you think doing that for other people is a bit much?

::sigh:: She’s terrible. I love her.

So, yeah, this flashback was pretty damn good, and necessary, too, because the emotional core of this episode was clearly the Ana/Will relationship. The tensest scenes were between them inside that dungeon and the emotional climax… well.

with a literal starfield, too. never change, OUaT

Oh, and I stand by my earlier statement that I looked forward to Will getting his heart back. It was great. I cried, and so did everybody else.

This kiss worked so well specifically because these two were locked in a dungeon for an entire episode, unable to really see each other, and with pretty much nothing else to do except talk about all the things that went wrong and that they’d wish they could have done differently. Yes, obviously their plot had been building up to this sequence, but I am impressed with how well it worked, and how much room it got to breathe. When Ana asked if Will could maybe forgive her, even if he could never love her again (he still does, you numbskull), and he said that “anything’s possible in Wonderland”? ::faint noises of joyful distress::

And then, everything went to Hell in a handbasket.

or at least further down into hell.

…at least they knew it was coming?

No, sorry, that’s not an “at least”. Please, show, for the love of pumpkins, fix this, because what’s the damn point, otherwise.

Alice’s and Cyrus’s part of the plot was… mostly stress-relief, really. The more action-y quest for Will’s heart and the Compass Heist were definitely much-needed relief between the tense, almost bleak moments in Jafar’s dungeon. And after all that, Cyrus is probably the one person who actually won something in this debacle. (Apart from the anguished declaration of love over in the Couple Counselling Dungeon.)

pal, that’s your mum you’re waving about there. please be careful.

I’m also low-key loving the developing relationship between Alice and Ana. That tiny little “thank you for coming back; I know it wasn’t for me, but thank you” nearly killed me, and Alice’s tiny little smile pretty much did the rest.

look she’s happy! she’s happy and she’s fine

And the whole trip into Will’s apartment in Storybrooke was excellent comic relief. From Cyrus playing with the lights, to Alice being startled by an ice machine, to the Rabbit trying to explain the modern world and failing miserably, it was just great. And Will hiding his heart behind that drawing of Ana is… pretty much the most Will thing I can imagine. (The poor idiot…)

Also, I have serious concerns about Rumple’s driving. Watch where you’re going, pal, some people can’t pick where their portals go, after all.

eyes on the road, friend

Right, so, leaving this episode Jafar does actually have the three genies, but not his staff, which means he still can’t do the spell.

…you know how some RPGs refuse to let you just do the very simple thing required to carry on with the story and instead send you on a hundred and three fetch quests first? I doubt Jafar has ever played one of those, but he sure is getting the full frustrating experience.

Additional thoughts:

I’m a bit sceptical of the whole “the Rabbit is gathering an army” subplot, and I almost hope that it doesn’t work out, because that certainly doesn’t seem like the right way to resolve this whole story. I am OK with the army being part of Alice and Cyrus sneaking into the castle and doing the narratively satisfying thing, though.

I so feel Will on his raisin-problem. Grapes are great! I don’t know why drying makes them horrible, but it does.

Cyrus still is a little shit, and I kind of like it

This was either the best or the absolute worst time to watch this episode, because I kept thinking “oh wow, look how much excellent character development you can get when you have an estranged couple with a legitimate rift between them actually talk to each other! It’s like magic!”

#ouat #ouat wonderland #the heart of the matter #sieben watches ouatiwl #oh wow #this was... a thing certainly #it's really good and everyone should watch it btw

[sieben9]

“nothing to fear” impressions

{Quick request to anyone reading: I’m watching OUaT for the first time, and I want to avoid spoilers. So, if you want to discuss something spoilery, I’d be grateful if you could start a new post for that. Thank you!}

Today on Once Upon a Time in Wonderland: everything is great and nothing bad happens to anybody, ever. Look, people get engaged and there’s fireworks and everything.

it’s a party!

…look, this episode made me sad, let me have some forty words of denial here.

Cold, hard reality under the cut.

Damnit, show, I liked her.

I mean, don’t get me wrong, this wasn’t a bad character death, as these things go. Sometimes, you just gotta kill off that minor character to remind everyone that magic is inherently dangerous, no matter the intention, and that being a genie sucks. Still. Poor Lizard. (And yes, I totally caught that she was planning to magic Will into loving her before hearing that it isn’t possible, but still. Poor woman didn’t deserve that.)

I do love the monkey’s paw of “I wish you would feel something for me” picking grief as the “something”. I mean… it sure is a powerful emotion, and Will certainly felt that one. …also, I have made myself sad now.

To counter that: there was another instance of Wonderland’s really good incidental comedy with the fireworks going off outside when Lizard wished for “all of that”. Sure, it wasn’t the kind of fireworks Will meant, but she definitely got what she asked for.

(Oh, and just because I need to wave my fan-flag for a moment: all I kept thinking about during Will’s speech that he can’t love Lizard and can’t love anybody was the TLK in season 3 that Regina gave Henry without her heart in her chest. Just… holy crap. That one just gets more and more impressive as time goes on.)

So, like I said, being a genie sucks, as Will is rapidly finding out. And he was comparatively lucky, I might add. So far, the only people who found his lamp were ones who had a vested interest in his emotional and physical well-being. Somehow, I doubt that’s always the case.

And while we’re on the topic of Ana… is it wrong of me that I loved the whole kidnapping sequence? Just… the amount of intense introspection this forced on her, and how well it showed on her face (“There’s nobody” almost made me cry and I’m not ashamed to admit it), and the fact that she listened. That’s the big reveal at the end, really. Ana realised what an awful ruler she’s been and deciding to make amends, however small they might be. And what I found interesting as well was the fact that none of the other characters know that. Nobody present, except for her and the audience, knows what that man said to her. And the fact that she decided to stay, and even to tell everyone why she was doing it… well, that’s some good, good character development right there.

…yeah, I’m not going to make you fight Will for the “favourite character” spot, Ana. You’ll just have to both squeeze in there.

Actually, seeing how his newfound “geniedom” has affected Will casts some of Alice’s and Cyrus’s conversations about trust in a new light. The degree to which a genie is bound to their “master” was not entirely clear before this, and it’s actually impressive to see in retrospect how carefully Alice and Cyrus (and the writers, obviously) worked to make sure they were on as equal a footing as they possibly could be.

And speaking of which…

…not only was this second proposal very sweet, but I think it carried an additional meaning now that Cyrus is free of his bottle. With all the world to choose from, the place he wants to be most is still at Alice’s side and yes, I did tear up a tiny bit at the whole scene, shut up.

Another thing I found interesting was the relationship (such as it was) between Ana and Alice in this episode. Alice’s distaste for working with the Red Queen was to be expected, but I found Ana’s comment that Alice only ever cares for herself very interesting. I don’t think she’s right, at least not completely. Alice certainly does care for other people, and deeply so. The easiest example: the fact that she’s willing to stay in Wonderland to help out Cyrus’s brothers

the unofficial motto of this show may be “we don’t leave people behind”

That said, I don’t think Ana is entirely wrong, either. There is a distinct streak of selfishness to Alice, though I think she usually channels it positively. (In a “Do not touch these people, because they are mine” way, mostly) She’s still very set in her world view, and slow to accept someone into that circle of “her” people. And, let’s be honest, she’s got good reason to be angry with Ana, and very little incentive to forgive her, so… yeah, Ana may not be wrong, but I don’t think she’s in a position to judge, is what I’m coming up with, here.

And allll the way over in the B plot (C plot? D plot? Who even knows…), I need to have words with Jafar. Those words being: Never trust a magic sword!

yes, hello, I would like to report a disappointing lack in the “eyes of flame” department

I am dead serious, pal. Do not trust that thing. Do not trust that lady. And most of all, do not trust that wig. I think it’s both sentient and up to no good. I’ve seen enough of this show to know that the best way to deal with magic blades of any and all kinds is to stay as far away from them as humanly possible.

Anyway. The Jabberwock, huh? I have to say, this version seems a lot more interesting to me than Yet Another Dragon(/wyvern/whathaveyou). I’d also like to know what kind of Drama Llama decided that yes, the best way to hide this incredibly dangerous scary lady is obviously to pin her to the ceiling in a freely accessible tower. Couldn’t you at least have put a sign outside? “Beware of the Phobophage” or something like that? (Which is pure speculation on my side. I have no idea if she actually eats fear or if she can just cause it.)

no whiffling or burbling, either…

That said, I am immediately suspicious of why she didn’t, you know, just kill Jafar at this point. Obviously, there’s the possibility that she was grateful for her freedom and isn’t interested in randomly murdering people, but the pile of corpses on the ground tells a different story.

All in all, that plot provided some good set-up, but it doesn’t feel like anything else happened, as such. Although Jafar is now forbidden from any further head-related puns. Sorry, but he clearly can’t handle the responsibility.

#ouat #once upon a time in wonderland #nothing to fear #sieben watches ouatiwl #sieben talks #there's just... #an outrageous amount of image compilations in this one #just all over the place #what can i say #i got photoshop-happy