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#fictionkin is… a word. not sure it fully describes my experience.
museofthepyre · 4 months
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your art really fits your appearance... are you the real life sydney sargent? i'd be freaking out if you were sydney sargent ahh
Well, yes.
I could explain my multi-year spanning selfhood/ ID situation in depth… buuuut we would be here for hours. Short answer for all intents and purposes is: yes.
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turing-tested · 2 years
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but like, the thing with 'kin is it's a specific belief about the self. what kinnies are doing is closer to face-claiming (thinking a character/animal/etc. is a good representation of you and presenting yourself as them in online spaces) rather than what being otherkin is (believing yourself to actually be a character/animal/etc. on some intrinsic level)
im an inclusionist which is why i welcome kinnies in the general alterhuman community, i do think we have a lot of things to learn from each other, but we are 2 completely different communities that simply got conflated due to a lack of information. our experiences are so different it's really not comparable to someone having a less strong belief, because fundamentally we really don't believe the same thing at all and it can cause both kinnies and otherkin people confusion when talking about it which is where a lot of that frustration comes from.
i fully support kinnies but i've also had some really bad experiences with them, entering spaces labelled as "kin" and then getting laughed at and called crazy. i'm not alone in this and it happened enough times that at this point i have a hard time trusting kinnies. while i trust not all kinnies are like that, it's also a part of their community they've mostly failed to address and us using the same terminology in such different ways makes dialogue hard. i think a simple switching up of words ("click/clicking" has been proposed as an alternative to "kin/kinning" in that sense and i really like it personally) would go a long way with distincting us and would be beneficial for everyone here!
with all due respect anon but this isn't accurate at all to the term and delineating between "kinnies" and "otherkin" isn't....like a set thing. kinnie is literally just a shortened joke version of "otherkin" and "fictionkin" people who were other/fictionkin created as a joke to refer to themselves as. determining whether or not someone is serious about kinning based on them calling themselves a kinnie isn't a good metric by any means, it's only really just a metric about how seriously someone takes themselves.
i'm a kinnie. i exclusively refer to myself as a kinnie and don't like referring to myself as fictionkin or otherkin at all, and my legal name is Dirk Strider. I also think that me saying i kin a guy from an episode of a second rate tv show that only appears for ten minutes even if i don't really think I'm him isn't diluting the word or making anyone else's understanding of themselves who refer to themselves that way 'less meaningful,' and incredibly popular philosophical argument in inclusionist communities you should keep in mind everyone i know who kins also primarily refers to themselves as kinnies as well; i just dont think the point you're making here of "kinnies are different" isn't accurate in the sense of "kinnies believe this" or "kinnies don't believe this" i guess. as for the "being called crazy" thing, thats an ableism thing, and again im not sure if going "well you need to call yourselves something different so i dont go into your spaces" is a solution here because that doesn't fix the ableism or the fact that ultimately for another example; if someone goes into certain system servers and talks about soulbonds and is not taken seriously that those people need to not call their space a system space, its just not a space that is under that umbrella that is going to suit that persons needs- requiring others to describe themselves differently because they don't ascribe to a specific belief among an extensive collection of philosophies just is not the solution here. tldr: i'm still up for discussing this stuff further but i dont think making a line between "kinnie" and "otherkin" here is.....an actual distinction that indicates anything about how serious or inclined someone is to understand your particular philosophy and saying "what kinnies are doing is xyz" is about as helpful to a situation as saying "what homestucks are doing is xyz," the term 'kinnie' doesn't indicate nearly as much about belief systems as you think it does
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