#get near enough spotlight. hes foreshadowed and on the horizon the entire game and i feel like everyone ignores him. hello.

[blackfright]

MOLT SCREAM TO ME ABT WHY ASGORE IS SUCH A GOOD CHARACTER I WANT TO HEAR YOUR VIEWS ON HIM

hello i saw your rant but i skipped it because i dont wanna rip ideas from you for this. ill get to that after ive written my thoughts.

asgore is such a conflicted character for obvious reasons. he has so many pressures on him from every side you can imagine. pressure to be a good king. a compassionate king after the human monster war. he wants to comfort his people. hes in this for the long haul. hes scared of going to the human world and wants to delay it. hes both scared of humankind as a rule and he doesnt want to face his grief. losing both of his children. walking through the barrier. the way they did all those years ago.

he wants. he needs to do whats right. but hes scared. so he takes a more passive role after chara and asriel pass. after toriel leaves him. hes most likely still suffering from a sort of depression that those events left on him. this shows in how he talks to toriel in the pacifist route ending, and the role he takes in deltarune (assuming their personalities are completely the same, which i think they are). he wants to be in his childs life, but loses himself in the past, with trying to woo toriel back. its pathetic sure but its sympathetic. (ALSO HE TELLS FRISK THEY CAN BE HIS CHILD. HELLO. DIRECT REFUSAL TO GO TO THE SURFACE FOR THE CHANCE TO WALLOW IN THE PAST MORE)

i think the best character moment is very obviously when you go into his fight.

human. it was nice to meet you. goodbye.

and of course he destroys the mercy button. and i think that fans put too much emphasis on how that affects the player in the meta sense and not enough on the tone of the story. you cannot just choose to fight, you have no other option. and Asgore has no other option. he treats you kindly up until the very second he has to stop stalling. in the same way he stays passive for as long as he can before he would break the barrier himself.

need i add how he refuses to meet your eye the entire fight. hes ashamed of himself. both in his duty and in his stalling. he didnt need to wait this long to go to the surface, but he cant bring himself to go until there is no other option. he understands how hes failed and it HAUNTS HIM !!!!!!!

also how toriel warns you of how dangerous asgore is and what he will do to you, while the rest of the underground only knows him for his softness. king fluffybuns. how he trains undyne. whatever man. (crying)

everything about his character circles back to these same themes of clinging to the past while refusing to adknowledge it, stalling in passivity until there is no other choice but to take action. and i think these are incredibly complex ideas for a character to be based on that the entore fandom just REFUSES TO ADKNOWLEDGE !!!!!! FOR SOME REASON !!!!!!!

thats most of my thoughtssssssss thank you for asking and sorry it took so long for me to answer :]

#actual posts #i actually fucking lose asgore so much i am so starved for content its insane. hes such a well made and sympathetic character that doesnt #get near enough spotlight. hes foreshadowed and on the horizon the entire game and i feel like everyone ignores him. hello. #EDIT: LOVE!!! NOT LOSE!!!! HELP.....