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Goten's Misunderstanding

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IT TAKES A BIG MAN 👍

#this works no matter if he said ''my'' or ''your'' #if he said ''your girlfriend'': IT TAKES A BIG MAN TO RESPOND THIS WAY 👍 #if he said ''my'': Then it's like goten was trying to be a good friend and show that he's here for him and #that trunks's problems are also goten's problems bc they share them becasue hes here for him 👍 #But maybe this isnt the best way to communicate that. Just taking ownership of your friend's GF like that. #So taht's why that's funny. #dballz posting #goten & trunkz #goten & palace & trunkz #dballz draws

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OK well what if you were the youngest president of Capsule Corp and you were good at being polite to people and generally knowing what's going on and what needs to be done next But your real passion was when you got to take that suit off and put on a neckerchief and chill out hardcore or have epic fun.

What if your brother-from-a-different-mother ride-or-die we-go-way-back BFF got a new GF and you've been hanging out a lot with the both of them becasue it's a fun and exciting time becasue they really seem to like each other a lot and it's nice to see. And it's a nice time of summertime sun and old-ties and new-ties. And your mind is being opened a bit becasue every day is a new day and you're starting to feel how your job is wearing on you a bit. But that being said you're a better fit for monotony than your mother is so you're going to be president regardless.

And so like How would you feel if this was you and you were sneaking more and more time away from work and stealing more and more time with your BFF whom you've always known but is every year a different person (same as you) and his GF who is the nicest girl that you've ever had extended contact with. And due to the constraints of your job the time you spend is often at odd hours, late nights or early mornings, and the world is a little bit different then, it's just you three and you make the rules.

And the fun level is reliant on your ability to keep an open mind and to keep forward momentum, the health of you as a trio is reliant on not being stubbornly stuck on any preconception.

And really anything goes and hey you're all adults here so when it starts to feel like you and your BFF's GF have a certain type of chemistry and it's sort of overt and shes awfully sweet to you, you can play pretend and withdraw in shock but in the end you really do have to go along with the fact that your BFF is encouraging you to go along with this. And you feel weird or bad about it becasue you think that you should, and you dont love her as much as he loves her, but you understand that you cannot assume guilt, becasue you understand that you dont actually have that much power here. No one does. You're all drifting down the lazy river.

How would you feel if you were honestly sort of straight up maybe getting to 3rd base with your BFF's GF. And it's just you two. And you're trying to figure out how this is gonna go exactly. Step by step. Well

How would you fucking feel if your BFF then throws the door open and walks in like he owns the place and downs the rest of his water bottle and takes his shirt off and joins you with perfect confidence and energy like it's his job to do so. How are you suppsoed to fucking feel about that. You have work at 6 am

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Goten and Trunks commit themselves to the monk life and they practice swords for forever but before that Goten is a broodmare who falls in love with Palace and maintains a romance with her and gets married to her and has kids with her. And at the time Trunks was recognizing that his life was unfulfilling and he was almost at the realization of what he had to do about it but then he got sidetracked by Goten & Palace inviting him to take an erotic bath with them and long story short Trunks spends some years with them. But in the end he and Goten do get back to the monk life. But when you're a student at their dojo every now and then Goten's wife will visit and bring her children and just as Goten & Trunks seem very close, you can't really see where Goten and Palace's marriage ends and Trunks begins. And one of the kids is his. But it's not a distraction from the monk life necessarily in fact those days are very radiant and fun becasue you take half the day off and you all have dinner together and the pure love coming off of them makes the whole dojo feel like the sweetest home. So it's NBD like it's not very monk like but these MFs have a wife and kids but it's cool. They're fighters AND lovers

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ok. ok. i have only seen DB/DBZ/DBS and have not reached GT yet (working on it ......) so mmy understanding of adult goten is from the perspective of somebody who has watched broly second coming on loop and replays the first episode of super like a healthy individual & has seen like 3 screencaps of gt goten. also that one goten side mission from Kakarot for the Play Station Five(5). anywayz. about the threeway you propose in your post. now assuming we live in a beautiful world where akira toriyama is introduced to the concept of polyamory and 1) thinks its banging and 2) accepts homosexuality into his heart of hearts (aka we are no longer operating by feasible canon standards) i do think it is PLAUSIBLE. ebcause. here is da thing. in PREMISE 7 you state Trunks is competition BUT (and again.......maybe GT would contradict this....all i know is my beautiful world where trunks pisses on broly) i think he only views trunks in competition for like...normie things. in Kakarot there's this exchange between the two of them, where Trunks (speaking for the both of them) says smth like, "we're not RIVALS that's LAME. We like competing but we're FRIENDS." (<- he then goes on to dunk on his father because "you're friends with goten's dad, right?? you're not RIVALS are you? that's TOTALLY uncool... you lamer.") and while i acknowledge this is New Canon (DBS-era where trunks's "13yr old on xbox live saying slurs" personality got nerfed a tiny bit) i think it says a lot about how they view competition/rivalry between them. It's like, all fun and games and a drive to be better but it's nothing they're losing sleep over unlike whatever da faq vegeta has going on with goku. this is all to say i don't think goten sees trunks as romantic competition. if anything he probably trusts trunks wouldnt like cheat on his girlfriend or whatever. now idk if goten would have hangups abt a 3-way being bizarre to him or smth but knowing how cra-zay and adventurous that little man is i assume it's something he would TRY at least, like, posing it as a joke like "haha could u imagine..." but its obvious he's like, trying to present it as a valid concept to trunks. the unspoken conclusion of "it could be kinda epic doe" is loud and clear 2 trunks. i think the better question is would palace be cool with this. would she do this. it's trunks briefs of capsule corp so like, if you were a worser person you could be like, hell yeah im fuckin that man if my bf gives me the green light i want tobe able to say that i know mr. trunks briefs biblically. but at the same time thats like, mean. i dont know much abt her but she seems like a sweet gal i think she wouldnt do something just for #bragging rights u kno....but u would know more on that methinks.

by the way you should watch the solar entertainment dub of broly 2 & 3 if you haven't they are life changing.

FASCINATING AND POWERFUL ARGUMENT.

I Didnt Fucking Know That TRunks Said That Shit & I Went and Found it on DA YOUTUBE!!! Timestamped video below but below that I will also attach screenshots of the whole scene but TBH I WATCHED THE WHOLE VIDEO AND IT'S PROFOUNDLY ADORABLE & PERFECT

Trunks said that he wanted to be friendas eith Goten for FOREVER .. He didnt stop at merely commenting on the present, but he had the confidence to project his feelings into the future: He's friends with Goten, he wants to continue being friends with Goten, and he wants it to be for forever.

I mean piece and signerture done right there. Signed sealed & delivered. Closed case. I'm willing to accept this as a total refutation for Premise 7 and what i was getting at in that post in general. Trunks looks at Goten with genuine appreciation when he said that they were friends

Ohhhgm my god and this video is so adorable .. I've said this before but as much as i love madness I also LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE So Much how on dragon ball everyone is depicted as truly happy healthy open free and LOVING EACH OTHER. Trunks and Goten just wanted to spend time with their fathers whom they love so much. They both assumed that their fathers loved each other as much as goten and trunks themselves love each other. They thought that the world was just that beautiful and lively. Also Gotenks in this video is 101% perfect and he is exactly swag and epic as i hoped he would be and it's really remarkable stuff. Great video. Great footage. Great writing

It is true that this is, as you put it: "New Canon (DBS-era where trunks's '13yr old on xbox live saying slurs' personality got nerfed a tiny bit)." But I dont honestly trhink that that's THAT relevant becasue what we mostly saw of Goten & Trunks in DBZ was friendly fun anyway, just with a bit of teeth, and then in DBGT Trunks is totallllyyyy chilled tf OUT and we don't see any acidity from him ever I think. So the fact that he's not saying slurs in DBS is I think okay. (I am actually greatly intrigued by his personality in DBS becasue I believe that it offers a great transition into the eventual DBGT and becasue it offers A LOT of insight on his Nature and his Nurture. Now is not the time.)

OK back to the aspect of the post that is about the throuple with Palace. This here ask offers the perspective that if Trunks sort of entered the relationship, then Goten wouldn't take it as striaght up competeition, but instead it would be sort of like "Ok well you know what You're a good man. I trust you'll treat her well." And in fact perhaps Goten & Trunks AREN'T Sick to Bastard Death ofn each other by now and ARE in fcat FRIENDS FOREVER like Trunks wishes for in this Kakarot for the ps5 footage.

This ask also offers the third propositon that Goten & Trunks may consider the prospect of a threeway involving them and one nice woman to be "kinda epic." No comments on that one

Palace definitely is not a bragging-rights kind of person so her motivations would literally be becasue she loves love and she loves Goten and she loves that he has a best friend and that they love each other and maybe she thinks that trunks is cute becasue hes so polite around her. Or maybe she thinks he looks sad and she wants to do something about it. But she has also been shown to enjoy badboys against her better judgement. Just remembered that. Wonder if we could work that in somehow

I don't member what movies I've seen or haven't seen but I'll keep that in mind chief. It's a beauotufl world ...

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PREMISE 1: Goten has firm boundaries and won't hesitate in being aggressive about asserting his will/wants/needs.

We see this from DBZ to DBGT. A specific example from DBZ would be when he and Trunks were mascarading as The Mighty Mask; Goten insisted that Trunks give juice to his "bottom half too," and that he wouldnt do his bit without being paid his due. After drinking the juice, he was perfectly happy and content; that was his only qualm, and he acted on it. He didnt feel that anyone had seen the juice cup fall out of the outfit-bottom, anyway.

In DBGT, Goten is hard-headed and one-track, most noticeably when he essentially told Mr Satan to FUCK OFF when Mr Satan beseeched him (in his own way) for his help. Goten knows how weak Mr Satan is, and he's an old man by now, and furthermore he's family; BUT, Goten was on a date, and he did not want to keep her waiting. But he did not politely back out like Gohan or even Trunks would have done; he minced no words and boldly, rudely, told Mr Satan that he was on his own; no consideration for the crowd that was witnessing. His date was much more important to him.

There's a lot you could feasibly take from this behavior, but I'm of the stance that this a healthy aggression that serves its purpose when present. He is hard-headed like his father and stubborn like his mother; he knows what his priorities are, and he commits his whole self to them - damn the witnesses.

PREMISE 2: Goten and Trunks are childhood best friends, guy friends, buddies, pals, chums; and their relationship is within those conventional parameters.

Mainly: why are we to assume that there is any affection between them? As children, their relationship is about play, competition, and war, and the perfect collaborate therein; as teenagers, they play superheros together, and evidently havent seen each other for a while by EOZ; and in GT, they don't interact much, rarely mention the other, and never seek the other out. They're loyal, absolutely, but do they really seek acts of affection out of the other?

As they have known each other since childhood, they are only jaded to the other; looking at the other's face must elicit the same emotional rise as looking at a cardboard box. They are like family, but without the obligation; they are a constant in the other's life, but naturally, they grow apart without fanfare when due.

There is no plausible reason for there to be any exciting sparks between them, and by and by, their lifestyles have brought them on different paths in DBGT. This doesnt mean that they stop being friends, and a sparring buddy is a necessary thrill for them - but they easily survive a year apart, and who knows when they actually do interact (or even what they do together or talk about.) They've both grown up and changed a lot. Everything they knew about the other slowly fades to irrelevancy. Still, we can't assume that there is any interest for what could be new between them; Trunks seems busy with his job and Goten seems busy with girls.

PREMISE 3: If Goten has a strong understanding of his priorities and a healthy aggression regarding them, then he would not tolerate anyone getting in the way.

PREMISE 4: Goten in his later years shows a heavy prioritization in attaining female attention.

THEREFORE: He would not tolerate infringement into his relationships with girls.

PREMISE 5: If Goten and Trunks are guy friends, then their relationship is built on familiarity, and they have no new sparks.

PREMISE 6: Trunks has nothing new to offer Goten.

PREMISE 7: Trunks is competition.

CONCLUSION: Goten would not allow Trunks to enter his relationship with Palace-chan.

The Goten and Palace and Trunks throuple shitshow is a beautiful thing and I'll stand by that. But guy friends dont typically want the other stealing the attention of their girlfriend, and guy friends dont typically step on each other's toes like that.

HOWEVER: The throuple shitshow IS a bold conjecture; it's inherit with the non-monogamous aspect. You cannot discredit it on grounds of being Uncharacteristic. For it already requires an open mind to begin with.

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i had a long hard day of procrastinating yesterday. Here is an image file of Goten and Trunks and Palace-chan doing normal platonic things in a regular manner

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(Saying this becasue I have an essay due tonight but I keep listening to 70s porno music) It was kind of a classy but raunchy thing to say that Palace's first kid is Trunks's like what is that. Like okay so what does that mean. Okay so you were having unprotected sex with her is that it. And she was letting you. OK well you know what that's fine. As long as you're there to hold the baby while she is doing the dishes and organizing the living room. And you can offer to do those chores all you want but she wont let you, doesnt want you to. Shes the woman and this is HER house. Shes the sweetest woman alive and shes gentle and loving and she wants her house how SHE wants it. Shes like if a mermaid fairy princess were a human and if you do the dishes for her she will look so sad and be disappointed in you. She wants you to build a porch and hold her children not do the dishes. Though if you could bring in the laundry from the clotheslines then she would appreciate that. Or watch the stove while she does it. Honestly she likes the outdoor time. Watch the soup while shes out there she doesnt want it boiling over. Yknow if you're not too busy drinking beer and training with swords

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It’s just that I look at GT Trunks and I think that I know him. Here’s what I know. I know that his mother is a willful and irate woman and that he has seen his father consistently lose to her throughout the years. He has seen the same in Goten’s parents, and to an extent, in Krillin and Android 18. 

I know that at some point he was told the story of how his parents met, and I think that he took it as a cautionary tale. I think it scared him to think that somebody as disciplined and focused and ambitious as his father could just, like, fall into seduction, and “”accidentally”” wind up with a kid. I think that Trunks as a young teenager felt a sort of fear about his own sexual maturity, and you couldn’t ever tell it, because it’s not like he was eager to express his feelings and fear, and also because he grew into the rambunctious womanizer-wannabe role well by the end of his teen years. 

But I think that witnessing his own parents throughout his entire life has taught him daily what he should avoid.

He has no disrespect for his parents of course, and in fact, this is why he can learn from their mistakes, as a way to honor their efforts. 

But also, it’s just, like. Well he’s a little bit afraid of women like his mother and like Goten’s mother. 

He understands where they’re coming from, but understand where he’s coming from: He does not want to live under the thumb of some forceful woman.

It’s not that he wants to be the angry and bossy one instead - when pressed, he’ll tell you that he’s all for a partnership of equals! What’s not to like? But he also wants to, for lack of a better term, be the man of the relationship. He wants to be the head of the house and to have a respectable amount of control and volition over its affairs. He doesn’t want to be stepped on by double standards; he doesn't want a wife who will use those privileges that women for some reason have over men, where they can raise their voice and slap their husbands and refuse to discuss or bend in opinion, and never face any repercussions to their character for it.

This is what Trunks has seen his whole life, and he just doesn’t dig it. He feels a bit vulnerable at being a man, and he feels the circumstances of his conception in his soul; he feels the quiet and delicate shame of his father, and he feels the way that he doesn’t know which party to blame, and he feels the fear that comes with weakness.

Trunks doesn’t want to be a man weak enough to be taken by a woman, and he doesn’t want to be with a woman who thinks herself more vulnerable or valuable by basis of sex alone.

(The interesting thing is, this innate aversion or trepidation of his can mirror the experiences of his mother, who has been objectified to horrendous degrees in her time. Really, it’s perhaps from both parents that he’s inherited this sensitivity from.)

Trunks went from a carefree and confident teenage boy exuding heterosexuality at the end of Z, to a well-mannered and chill man in GT. But you know, there’s not much difference between the two. Both have an eye for fashion that is dark-colored, well-fitting, and almost classy, although EOZ Trunks has a bit more spunk while GT Trunks boasts fits with more unique longetivity. Both are pretty transparent, and emote freely when a feeling comes on, although in the case of EOZ Trunks he is more concerned with appearing cool, while GT Trunks is just genuinely more chill and calm. Both are polite and well-mannered actually, EOZ Trunks just had the detriment of being shown hanging out with his best guy friend, and it just goes without saying that he is more cocksure and vapid than GT Trunks out of virtue of being 18. The biggest difference, I think, is that EOZ Trunks exudes heterosexuality while GT Trunks does not.

GT Trunks clearly does not like his job but he does it anyway. And my humble opinion at having seen most of GT is that Trunks, very clearly, very simply, just wants to have a good time. That’s it. That’s all there is to it. He wants to hang out. He’ll be president and he’ll go into space and he’ll fight bad guys because he has to and he kind of likes it and he’ll fix the spaceship because he has to and he’ll breastfeed Giru because somebody has to, but, between you and me; he just wants to chill out. He wants to put his hands behind his head and make a wisecrack. He wants the tough shit to be over with, and he’ll do the tough shit, but he is without Bulma’s devout acuity and without Vegeta’s deeply-rooted pride; he’ll do the tough shit and he’ll do it fine or well or passing or even in a way worth being proud of, but mostly, when no one is looking, he’ll do it his way, which is whatever bullshit he needs to cobblefuck to get the shit working again so he can go and chill out somewhere in peace.

He just wants to hang out.

I didn’t say anything about him wanting to get a girlfriend, though.

Goten got a girlfriend. Trunks did not get a girlfriend.

Oh, ‘cause he’s too busy, right? Yeah he is. But also, he’s a rich bitch, and all the ladies think he’s cute (seen first episode of GT) (or maybe second I don’t remember) - if he WANTED a girlfriend, he could squeeze one in between his 7 o’clock meeting and his 3 o’clock brunch.

But when all those sweet ladies were fawning over him, he did not wear their attention well. He blushed and stared at his shoes. 

President of Capsule Corp, 23 years old, richer than most, stronger than most, son of prodigy Bulma, son of Saiyan legend Vegeta, the one who mastered fusion and fought Majin Buu when he was 8 years old - someone who’s strength and stability of character and name and heritage are of utmost importance, and this importance is reiterated with every day he grows and progresses on his journey - Trunks stares at his shoes and blushes because all the women are fawning over him. 

He stares at his shoes, not having what it takes to stand with confidence. And he dutifully blushes.

A lot could be inferred here, is the thing. He’s blushing because he’s angry and embarrassed at being infantilized like this, he’s embarrassed because being pretty was not in the job description and he’s left with the sense that he’s being immature and doing it wrong by causing adoration, he’s embarrassed just because he’s always been bashful behind his attitude (his cocky attitude which is notably lost in GT), he’s not standing with pride because he doesn’t want the job, or - he doesn’t feel the need to conduct himself with valour, because everything has always been given to him, and this job is a birthright that he can’t besmirch that easily.

Whatever it is, we know this - HE DOESN’T BASK IN THIS ATTENTION! He’s embarrassed! And it’s not because he already has a girlfriend. He doesn’t have one. He doesn’t have one until Dragon Ball Super partnered him up with Mai, and I don’t know if that was for his relevance or hers. 

So, here’s what I think about GT Trunks.

I think that he’s not necessarily looking for a girlfriend right now. I think that that fratboy teen is still a part of him, and I think that he will need a woman in his life eventually, but I think that he dislikes the idea of (and is perhaps afraid of the risk of) a one night stand, so he continues on in his vaguely celibate way. I actually think that if he had a woman for a night and woke up and she was still there, he’d just marry her. I think he knows this, and this is why he doesn’t let himself cave like his father had; because he doesn’t want to end up with a wife like his mother. His mother chose his father, and Vegeta didn’t have much of a say in it - and you could say that if Trunks marries a woman only because she stayed, then that is he choosing her, but I think to him, it would not feel like an enabled decision and he would not agree with that perspective. I think to him, love is sensitive and fragile and completely has the power to take him by the balls, and when he wants to marry the woman who stayed with him through the night, it is not a decision he feels good about making, but one that his heart has already made and one that he must commit to lest he let his heart come into the pain of breaking. He feels a victim to it, and he does not want to end up in a dutiful, violent, communication-less love like the one of his parents. 

He’s not necessarily looking for a girlfriend right now. It takes too much time, and he’s losing interest in small talk as he ages and as the appeal of being in the presence of a pretty girl diminishes. It’s not that he no longer thinks that girls are pretty, but it’s just that that factor alone does not offer enough reason for him to sit and make awkward/boring small talk for hours. He doesn’t have the time to not be decisive. But that’s how you meet people, and that’s how you get to know people, so to be honest, his prospects are looking a little slim.

To compare, his buddy Goten LOVES chatting up girls and chicks and ladies and dames and skirts alike, and he isn’t afraid of initiating a conversation. Trunks, on the other hand, likes the IDEA of freely conversing, but it just never plays out that way; he’s sort of famous and he shows his reputation to everybody who sees his face, and he can’t risk tarnishing it by venturing down a verbal path uncouth. He’s president of Capsule Corp, now, man! He wishes he could just say some wild and stupid and playful and free shit and gauge the responses, but, man, he just isn’t as stress-free as he used to be, and there’s more riding on his shoulders than there used to be.

Trunks isn’t necessarily looking for a girlfriend right now, but if you ask him, he seems to think that it’ll happen eventually. He wants to get one eventually. He just wants it to be the right woman. Trunks is holding out for a sensible woman, and he thinks that he’ll have her eventually, and he’ll know her when he does. 

That’s it - a sensible woman. Someone he can goddamn talk to. Someone who will let it be a partnership of equals, and who will let him be a man without losing sight of his humanity. Someone who will play a woman’s role without the vitriol or power struggle; someone who is chill and confident like him, and open-minded in discussion, and willing to be compassionate; someone who won’t throw herself under the bus or let herself be stomped on, someone who won’t invent ways for them to resent each other. 

And, yknow, he’d be pretty open-minded for her too. He’d be willing to tolerate a lot out of her, given she has the traits above. A sensible person can be hard to find. So he’d love her even if she had a really weird fetish or something. He would let her put him in reins and ride on him like a horsie. If that’s what it took. 

And that’s all that’s going on here. GT Trunks doesn’t want to settle for/be taken by a dangerous woman, he doesn’t want to put the time in to be social and to meet all the wrong people, and he is waiting for a sensible woman to come into his life so that he may fall in love with her.

But he’s not really focusing on that right now. Like he’s busy going into space and being president and stuff. He’s sort of okay where he is.

He doesn’t want to endure the slow and awkward getting-to-know-you process when he’s too busy to not be decisive about a follow-up, so it’s pretty cool that he already has a person who is his lifetime BFF and whom he can talk to without effort. He hangs out with Goten because it’s a chill affair and because Goten is a little based. Goten’s always got some shit to say. Goten will just say anything to you. 

Some viewers may arrive here and say that, hey, Trunks has already GOT a Goten, he’s already GOT a lifetime partner! He and Goten are on the same page all of the time. They know how to communicate. They’re already bonded. Does Trunks NEED anyone else?

And like Yeah you could stop there. Discussion over. Open and shut book. Goodbye

BUT I’m gonna keep going. I’m gonna argue that Trunks COULD use something more. I believe I’m on record as saying that he just needs a life-partner, he just needs that intimacy, so Goten would totally suffice, and not everybody gets what’s perfect for them so yeah maybe Trunks never secures a permanent woman but he’s happy enough running a sword-fighting dojo with his BFF sure - BUT. Imagine telling a 23 year old heterosexual (this adjective is not made canonical until DBS however) (this is present Trunks we all know that Future Trunks is gay) man that he’s never gonna have a woman. Well he just wouldn’t believe you for his own emotional wellbeing! Like what! He’s never going to have sexual relations with a woman again?! Please. You must be off your rocker.

OK so what. Does he keep his Goten and get over his subtle fear of what a woman could do to him and just start slamming ass all over Metro West? Maybe. That’s certainly an option.

But let’s consider Goten a moment. Goten is from a rural, traditional, and loving home, and he fully expects himself to have a wife and kids someday. When we see him in GT he’s still in his playboy phase and that’s fine but you can’t expect me to believe that he doesn’t want a family. Of course he wants a family. Everybody that he looks up to has one!

Unlike Trunks, Goten doesn’t have an aversion to the relationships that he’s borne witness to and the expectations put upon him, and he instead leans into them; when his mother tells him that he needs to settle down with a good woman and become a good working man, he listens to her. He just doesn’t know when it’ll happen. And while he certainly isn’t hoping on a wife who will beat him like how his mother beats his father, he would not be surprised to find himself with one; and if he did have an irascible and senseless wife, he would treat her carefully and with respect, and he wouldn’t miss all the cues that he’s seen his father miss when dealing with his mother, and he would take the wooden spoon beating with stoic dignity. And then afterward he would be like “Sugarlamb, babycakes, what’s got you all like this?” and depending on what she said he would either laugh her into reassurance (or another beating) or fly out of the house to destroy what was REALLY stressing her out.

To Goten, some women are just Like That, and that’s fine, and you gotta respect reality. He’s a virtuous man who wants to treat women with kindness, sympathy, and an awful lot of deference. 

Trunks, on the other hand, is partial to expecting accountability out of a wife.

So Goten is really gonna land himself a wife one of these days, I tell you what, it’s gonna happen. And he’ll tolerate an awful lot out of her. And he can hang out with his buddy Trunks as they share a passion and a hobby, but his mother always told him that when a man starts a family, his guy friends become third priority to his children and wife (something that Goku never understood in the way that Chichi did). And Goten believes her, and he is not interested in repeating the behaviors of his father that had always made his mother so sad, so he makes ample time for his wife and kids when they come, and less for his BFF and their dojo.

If this post were all about Goten then we could perhaps dive more into what I just said, like, sometimes people as adults end up in rotten relationships because they keep trying to “fix” the traits in the other that they could never see fixed in their parents, and they keep trying to get out of a partner what their parents never gave them. And it’s like, Goten growing up saw such terrible and soft sadness in his mother because his father was either dead or absent, and as a youth that really struck and scarred him. Sometimes he felt responsible for it by proxy, because he was a boy, because everyone told him how much he looked like his father, because his mother stopped smiling at him when he grew up and into his own priorities and he wasn’t his mother’s soothing baby boy anymore, because Goten’s skull was thick enough to break the wooden spoon whenever his mother tried to take it all out on him.

So now he’s determined to be a better husband than his father was, as a way to retroactively fix what he could never do anything about then, and to express an indirect apology to his mother for never being good enough. 

And you know, that’s pretty interesting. Maybe we should talk about THAT. Maybe we should talk about how Goten was never smart like Gohan, and always one step behind Trunks, and the only thing thing that made him feel like enough was when he let his mother pick out his outfits, because she seemed to delight in dressing him, and the significance of the dress to him started and ended at his mother’s approval.

But this post isn’t about Goten it’s about TRUNKS so don’t worry about all that.

So is Trunks ever going to fuck sex a hot woman again..? Has he ever even done that at all...? 

We know that Goten gets a wife, but now Trunks is spending a lot of time alone again. Goten has two hands, isn’t there enough time for everyone? Well, yeah, there is, if Goten’s wife is willing to extend her other hand out to Trunks.

Now this doesn’t necessarily have to be like a polycule or a throuple thing. Trunks could just be Goten’s special friend. His guy friend who hangs out all the time and pretty much lives there. You know. Goten and Goten’s wife and their kids and .. Trunks. You know. He’s just a guy who’s there. Doesn’t need to be a big deal or anything.

Maybe Trunks has some women in his life throughout the years yknow. Nothing major. Just to get by, you know.

Maybe he meets someone sensible and he graduates from living at Goten’s house with his wife. That’d be swell.

Honestly Trunks probably needs a lot of alone time and his own space anyway, so if he could just come by every now and then to get his Goten time and his lady time, that’s all he really needs to be happy. We could end the post right here.

Or, you know. It could be a throuple thing.

So, in the interest of finishing this post and finding out where Trunks’s life takes him, WHO IS GOTEN’S WIFE?

Well canon hasn’t given us a Goten love interest so we don’t know. But this post is about GT Trunks so canon doesn’t matter much anyway. Let’s talk about Palace-chan

Palace-chan (also known as Valese in some releases and in the title of one of my spotify playlists) is Goten’s GIRLFRIEND in Dragon Ball GT. She has a very sweet and daft demeanor, and she doesn’t seem to know most things. She is, however, very open-minded, and will be pleasantly surprised when you teach her things, like how to eat ice cream, or what a hamburger is. She dates Goten after having broken up with a previous boyfriend, as is evident by his line “this is the first time since I’ve known you that you haven’t had a boyfriend.” We don’t know how long they’ve known each other, or how many boyfriends she’s had. The wiki says she’s rich and I believe that but I don’t know if I’ve seen proof of that yet or if I just missed it. She is dumb as rocks and 100x softer. She is kind, sympathetic, empathetic, and really seems to love her Goten when we see them on screen. Also, she’s pretty and cute and beautiful and charming. I know that her bedroom is pink and she has fluffy heart-shaped pillows and she has a Gwen Stefani poster and that her favorite show is Krypto The Superdog.

Palace-chan is lovely and full of love and she’s fun and playful and encouraging and open-minded and compassionate and she’s a little bit completely odd. She will get sad before she gets mad, and she puts an awful lot of trust in you. Luckily, Goten is the perfect man to put trust in - he loves to protect those he loves - and he matches her playful interests perfectly. Palace-chan loves to cuddle and giggle and make cupcakes and watch Krypto The Superdog on the 1990s Sony TV in her bedroom.

And, like, if you ask him, Trunks isn’t interested in having a “girl’s night” at Palace-chan’s place (the thing about Palace-chan is that whenever she’s involved it becomes a girl’s night. Put her in a group of older muscly men and by the end of the evening they’re drinking strawberry daiquiris and reading Cosmo.) (Obligatory screenshots of Trunks reading Cosmo magazine)

So Trunks doesn’t fancy himself someone who could have a “girl’s night,” but he goes because Goten makes him, and yknow, Trunks is friendly enough, so he’ll hang out with Goten’s girlfriend, sure. She’s a nice lady. And before he knows it she’s got him in a red apron that says “Kiss the Sous Chef” in her kitchen making cupcakes with her! They’re all making cupcakes! And now they’re decorating them and they’re doing a shit job and there’s frosting everywhere and they’re all giggling about it. Then suddenly Trunks is being dogpiled on in Palace’s pink bed, and they’re all giggling and bothering each other, while Trunks is trying to work the remote because Palace INSISTED that they watch Krypto, and she put the DVD in and now Trunks is working the remote because Palace and Goten are busy painting each other’s toenails, and they start bothering Trunks too, and now he’s cuddling with them and it’s all awfully sweet and tender and soft and...fucking weird.

After a few visits - which he still feels is too soon - Trunks bathes at Palace-chan’s mansion. He’s in this giant tub and Goten enters the bathroom. “Hey man what’s going on.” Goten gets in with him and he asks him how it’s going and if he likes hanging out here and if he likes Palace-chan at all. Trunks tells him that he does enjoy hanging out with her, and he and Goten wash each other’s hair (this is normal). Then Palace-chan enters. Trunks doesn’t want to freak out or anything because this is Palace-chan’s goddamn house, and she can move through it as she pleases, but then, LIKE IT’S NOTHING, she strips and gets in the tub with them. Goten acts like this is normal. Trunks can’t believe what’s going on so he hurriedly moves to leave, but Goten pulls him down, and tells him to not be rude, and then he tries to resume the conversation that Palace has just started and included them all in. So Trunks stays and tries to hide himself and to avert his gaze and eventually Palace asks if someone can wash her hair and Goten gestures for Trunks to do it like it’s normal and this is all normal. So Trunks washes Palace-chan’s hair and she tells him that she has a hair routine but she can’t remember where she is on it so he can just go on ahead and use any bottle on the shelf there. 

This is so weird because last Trunks checked, he had not been married to the either of them for five years, so why does it feel like he’s five years into a marriage with these two? Why are they treating him like this?

Well, Palace and Goten are just like that. And more specifically, they like Trunks. Any friend of Goten is a someone whom Palace trusts completely, and besides, she thinks he’s cute. And Goten loves his sweet GF and his epic BFF and he thinks it’s funny how Trunks blushes whenever Palace tries to cuddle him. Also, he doesn’t like seeing Trunks overworked and lonely. It’s relieving to him, and comical, how even the cool Trunks starts giggling with the rest when Goten and Palace dogpile on him and mess with him. 

So, what’s my point here? Well, Palace-chan isn’t the calm, sensible, rational woman that Trunks had his hopes out for. But there aren’t many people out there who fit that bill, and less so since Gohan and Videl tied each other down. Palace-chan herself isn’t even single, but she and her boyfriend seem willing to share, so who is Trunks to turn up his nose? Palace is open-minded and compassionate, and Goten’s chief concern is always the happiness and wellbeing of the flock, and it’s not like Trunks is keen on rocking the boat arbitrarily - they all keep each other mindful and loved, and there’s plenty of room for all of them in the corners of each other. Why, it seems like a good set-up. Palace-chan gets a nice, careful, virtuous and funny husband, as well as a second sweet and cute guy; Goten gets that wife he wants, and she is a lovely catch, and she doesn’t even beat him, and he also gets to keep his right-hand-man you-know-me-like-no-other confidant close; and Trunks gets the intimacy and understanding of his already BFF as well as the affection and touch of a tender woman who won’t yell at him.

So...?

THIS POST WAS GOTEN X PALACE X TRUNKS PROPAGANDA  ALL ALONG!!!!

But I’m gonna keep talking.

See the thing is, I said earlier that Trunks would ideally want a life partner who is SENSIBLE and will work with him regarding boundaries and compromises. He doesn’t want a woman who just gets her way. But the thing about Palace-chan is that she often does just get her way out of virtue of the fact that if you deny her then you’re just being an asshole. Like, it’s an issue of chivalry. She’s a delicate thing. You just gotta let her have this man.

But that doesn’t mean she’s interested in making you commit to stuff that you don’t like. If you REALLY hated Krypto The Superdog then she would eventually stop asking you to watch it with her. But she’d definitely be sad to start. And she may find it hard to believe that you wouldn't like it. Because it’s the best fucking show ever. But as long as you don’t INSULT Krypto then she’ll let you walk away from it. But if you’re mean about it then she’d stamp her feet and make her very best stern face (it’s not that stern) and she’d say “Trunks-san. You are being very rude right now. If you don’t stop then I am going to say something rude myself.” But she just isn’t that scary and you can tell that she’s really so sad and trying to hold her ground, not that she’s especially angry.

Also I think that if you did walk all over her, then she would just break up with you. You think that maybe she’s a vulnerable and fragile flower but the thing is she’s rich and doesn't need you if you’re a dick. She can tell when she’s not being heard and if it keeps happening then she has the emotional strength and courage to cry to completion all night over what she’s about to lose, and then have the conviction to cut you loose the next day. I think she did that with all of her other boyfriends, albeit some of her reasons were stupid (the color of your bikes didn’t match). And some of her breakups she performed with only moroseness and the finality of a cried-out heart, not so much coming from a place of fierce self-vindication. But I’m getting sidetracked.

I said at the beginning that Trunks is afraid of winding up like his father. In the loving and stable arms of his BFF and his GF, it seems like Trunks has nothing to be afraid of. 

But except that he does. Because after Goten and Palace get married, Palace gets pregnant. Trunks doesn’t really want kids, but he wouldn’t dare try to tell Goten and Palace how to live their life, and he’s not gonna leave the either of them for just that reason.

Everyone’s excited for Goten and Palace’s child, but the damn baby is born with blue hair. The damn baby is born with blue hair. Trunks and Palace weren’t married, which makes it a bastard child; and Palace is married to someone else, so that makes it an adultery baby. “But aren’t they all kind of in the relationship together, it can’t REALLY be an adultery baby, right?” - BUT BY A TECHNICALITY IT IS, ISN’T IT? Trunks just accidentally had a baby. He did not even want a kid, he did not MEAN to make one, but he finds himself in this scenario nonetheless, enticed by the love of a woman he did not choose but who chose him.

His father tells him over the phone later that he had warned him. “I warned you. When you went through puberty, I told you - I warned you to stay away from those jezebels who’ll try to steal your seed.” Vegeta didn’t really say that but actually yeah I think he did. I think he did say that. I think he would say that. I think he would. And I think he did.

Trunks of course already had himself living under the specter of fear for that scenario, and he did try really hard to avoid it. And you could argue that Trunks and his BFF and his BFF’s wife is a very different scenario from the one that Bulma ensnared Vegeta in. But that’s not how it feels. Trunks feels suddenly that he’s had no volition in this, that he’s been hunted like his mother and trapped like his father, all because he had the damn gall to be a lonely man. 

He gets over it though & the next two kids are Goten’s. And Palace tries to name the next one “Vegeta V” even though it’s Goten’s and the first real riff in the relationship occurs when Trunks begs her day and night to not fucking name it that. He says “If that baby isn’t born with blue hair you can’t fucking name it that.” And then she names it that anyway & long story short I think that Trunks eventually snaps & takes the baby down to the Secretary of State’s office and tries to legally change its name. And the lady working the counter is like “You are not either of the baby’s parents” and he’s like “That’s the fucking problem, it’s named after my dad.” And she’s like “I cannot legally help you do this”  And for the first time in Trunks’s life ever he uses his status for selfish gains, he leans over the counter and says “Ma’am, I am the President of the richest corporation on Earth. If you help me out with this little thing, I could make your life really good.”

Anyway he walks out of there with the baby’s new legal name being Son Goten II. 

So yeah. GT Trunks everybody

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When Trunks finally has a kid of his own Vegeta is gonna be on his ass telling him to start training again becasue he needs to be strong enouhg to protect his family in case shit goes south again. Becasue Vegeta isnt gonna be alive for forever . (Well maybe he is ive never seen Super maybe they make him immortal or something).

But Trunks doesnt really have time to train becasue hes busy with work so he tries to pass on the onus to Goten and Goten is like “I dont have time for that Im busy being a stay-at-home husband so that Palace can work at Hot Topic” and Trunks is like “Why does she work at Hot Topic I pay all the bills...” and Goten is like “Becasue she wants to. A girl’s gotta have passions.”

#dballz posting #Goten & Palace & Trunkz

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The original image has new meaning. Those are her sweethearts

#dballz posting #goten & palace & trunkz

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If you want tell me more about Palace-Chan !!! OwO

Hello dear. Thank you very much for sending this ask in 27 days ago. I was waiting for when it felt right and ... she's been on my mind today ...

However I don't have anything new to say about her .. I feel at peace at having said what I've said .. she's sweet and affectionate and polite and playful .. Here are screenshots that I have of her. Her hair is so beautiful. Let's all appreciate her together <3

I like her cool wristwatch as well ...

#dballz posting #dballz asks #um. i dont have a solitary palace-chan tag. maybe i should but: #goten & palace & trunkz

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hey i just got out of the shower but like i will die if i dont tell you this so im a sopping wet beast as i type this, anyway.

i was thinking about the whole "goten names his kid vegeta the 5th" thing and it occured to me, you know what would be even funnier? if he named the kid vegeta the SIXTH (stay w me here im going somewhere)(somewhere stupid but regardless)

and of course trunks finds out and like "what the fuck do you mean the SIXTH?" and hes confused and for a second he thinks maybe goten or palace messed it up on accident or maybe she changed it last second because she thought sixth sounded better (fun fact this is a normal argentinian occurrence it happened to my mom and it happened to messi, sometimes you just name your kid whatever the fuck and dont tell your spouse and have a laugh about it)

but then goten looks at him like he just hit the most devious lick imaginable, and trunks' brain starts whirring;

instead of the usual Bulma Family Logic that would have lead him to something like "hey, goten is weird as shit maybe he already named like a dinosaur after my dad already and wanted to honor that. he's like that" he goes the Vegeta Pride Logic route of "This MOTHERFUCKER is attacking me he is making fun of me and calling ME!! implying I!! AM VEGETA THE 5TH how fucking DARE he." and he gets really pissed off

anyway he would have been wrong either way because they did change it last second cause it sounded cooler, thats how the third world works i dont make the rules

ANYWAY this would cause repercussions such as: trunks calls goten "goku the third" goten is confused. like. what the fuck man. what are you talking about.

you already know who sent this so im not signing off, have a good day, ot whatever time is in los estados unidos de america

Hi. I have to answer this today to honor your evident clairvoyance. How did you know I was THINKING of them today...!

THIS IS SO FUNNY THAT I HAD TO WALK AWAY FOR A WHILE...

What do I even say .. you know them all so well...

THAT TRUNKS WOULD TAKE SUCH ACUTE OFFENSE to the implication that He is Vegeta The Fifth ...

A.) Trunks knows that Goten is Like That and assumes that it's just some silly stupid reason -> B.) "WAIT IS HE INSINUATING THAT IM THE FIFTH ..!??!" -> C.) No it really was a silly stupid reason but not the silly stupid reason that Trunks initially assumed ...

also i dont know how to say this but what the fuck do you mean by "sometimes you just name your kid whatever the fuck and dont tell your spouse and have a laugh about it" EXCUSE ME ??? Promise??That's awesome ................

Trunks shows up at the hospital and sees the black-eyed baby and is like "Oh thank god It's not mine this time. Hey so you can't name it after my dad then. You can't name it 'Vegeta the Fifth' then" and Goten and Palace are like "ok....we won't..." and they huddle around the birth certificate with a pen and start giggling

#CRYING.... #NO WORDS. #dballz posting #dballz asks #Goten & palace & trunkz #i was literally thinking abt those posts today abt them naming their kid that.. how did you know... #or maybe .. how did *I* know that YOU were thinking of them !? #YU7I

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Goten: Hey man long time no see! 

Trunks: Yeah glad to meet up! What’s new?

Goten: Not much. Oh uh, here’s a present (presents present). From the wife.

Trunks: Awesome she’s so nice (stops talking becasue Goten puts his hand on the back of his neck and kisses him on the mouth)

Goten: That one’s from me

Trunks: Awesome thank you

ALTERNATE VERSION

Trunks: Here I got you and your wife something. This one’s for you (presents present)

Goten: Wowie a gift? :D

Trunks: Yeah. And this one’s for your wife (kisses him on the mouth)

ALTERNATE VERSION

Palace-chan: Sorry Goten couldn’t make it today :( We got you gifts though!

Trunks: Aww cool! Thanks!

Palace-chan: And he wanted me to pass this along (kisses him on the mouth)

ALTERNATE VERSION

Goten: Here I got you something man! This one’s from me!

Trunks: Wow sick. Thanks man

Goten: Yeah and here’s a little something from the wife too (kisses him on the mouth)

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Trunks has main character syndrome due to being an only child for most of his childhood so while he is very glad for Goten and his new ladyfriend, he does get a little sad and jealous when they kiss eachother instead of paying attention to him. And Trunks says this to be funny but Goten responds very seriously with Oh So You Want me and my girlfriend to Have Sex With You at the Same Time. And Trunks is like "I did not fucking say that." And Palace is like "Huh? He wants to have sex with us?" and Trunks is like I Did Not Fucking Say That.

And Palace takes her dress off and Trunks of course Averts His Gaze and hes sort of confused because he doesnt know how hip she is to Commiting To The Bit so it does seem like she just took her clothes off genuinely. And Goten wraps his arm around him and is like "You can look. Go on ahead and look. You can look at my girlfriend man. Look at her" and Trunks doesnt fuxking look and Goten is like (annoyed) "Palace he isnt even looking at you." And Palace gets kind of indignant and is like "That is rude of you Trunks-San. I thought you were a polite man. But you wont even look at me." And so Trunks looks up and she waves at him excitedly like they're seeing eachother for the first time and she has Hello Kitty underwear and it's just such a weird fuxking night

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