#however the fact that he didnt first think to put on the helmet after jean left is something to think about

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(Damn this wasn't meant to be this long, bestie I'm sorry I just have so many thoughts on this-also all these quotes are from memory so they might be off)

Jsjsjsjs it can be sexual but for me I meant it more as in Erik's mind has been through so much. He literally states he's Frankensteins monster and we see how Emma takes away his control, his choice. Something that he values so much seeing as he was forced to submit to Schmidt when he was a child.

Then he meets another telepath but this one asks permission before going into his mind. (With the exception of when they first meet where Charles is trying to save his life) This one brings forward a happy memory that he had of his mother, one that he himself couldn't recall before. He, who believes himself to only be good at one thing-anger, is told that there's more to him. That even while he may not believe it-this man who can see everything he's even done or ever experienced-Charles looks him in eyes and tells him that there's more to him than just that pain.

The way that Charles used his telepathy as a way to motivate Erik. To let him see himself in the way that he (charles) sees him. We see this when Erik is once again attempting to life the submarine and hes tells him "remember the point between rage and serenity". The fact that in the second movie the only time he goes into Erik's mind is when he absolutely has to. When he feels like he's left with no other choice but to stop Erik.

Even when he does this he immediately let's him go and then there's the whole "they'll kill me" and Charles looks at him and tell him he knows. Erik knows that Charles could've stopped him but he didn't. He literally had complete control over Erik, but he let's him go. Once again proving that Erik can trust him.

THE SCENE IN APOCALYPSE WHERE HES LIKE "YOUR A TELEPATH CHARLES YOU COULD MAKE ME DO ANYTHING YOU WANT" AND CHARLES IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT HESITATION RESPOND WITH "I COULD, BUT I WON'T"

Literally I will never be over that interaction. The way Erik was both testing Charles and at the same time he knew what Charles' response would be because deep down he knows Charles. The way he smiles when he hears his reply and the soft "goodbye charles" when he leaves.

I'll be honest I haven't watched dark Phoenix but I saw your gifset the one where Erik is putting his helmet back on after finding Jean and letting Charles access his mind so that he also knows. The amount of trust that he is displaying through such a small option.

He is relinquishing control for a moment, fully relying on the fact that Charles will never (would never) take away his autonomy because Charles knows "everything" about him. Knows what he went through as a child. Knows that Erik probably had little control and understand what it means to Erik to hand this over to someone else.

So when he takes off the helmet, this is a huge moment. He is personally removing the only item that keeps Charles out of his mind. And unlike in days of future past, this time its his choice. He takes it off knowing full well that there's always the possibility of Charles never letting him put the helmet back on. Of making sure Erik can never be hidden from him. But of course they've been through so much. Charles has seen Erik in ways others never have and never will. He understand him at his fundamentals and in a way so does Erik.

this is actually a super interesting analysis, nice anon!!

however i will say, as someone that HAS seen dark phoenix, erik wasn't willingly let charles look into his mind. it just happened to be that charles was looking for erik (because erik was the only one who knew where jean went at that point) just before he put on the helmet, so he was able to read his mind. still, tho, everything else u wrote here makes so much sense!!

#kai.answer #anonymous #i dont think the option erik gave charles in dark phoenix was intentional #however the fact that he didnt first think to put on the helmet after jean left is something to think about