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medschoolash · 7 years

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Not trying to start anything, but I'm wondering how HE breaking up means anything for KH given the fact that the reason HE broke up is bc how violent Elijah is. Klaus has been way more violent towards Hayley & others, so I really don't see it going in that directions especially when the writers specifically said that Elijah's violence/violence towards Hayley was the reason they broke them up

Honestly I’m glad you sent me this anon.

Ever since Friday there has been such a gross oversimplification of Julie’s quote and what happened in the episode floating around so let me address this.

1. Hayley didn’t just break up Elijah because he is violent. She admitted that she is a monster as well, that she has done bad things….the problem is that the violence that Hayley experienced week before last is the fundamental core of who Elijah Mikaelson is. This is an exact quote from the episode where she goes through the red door. This nature is the core of his being, which means that Elijah is almost completely unchangeable. THAT’s the root of the statement Hayley is trying to make by letting him go. Elijah isn’t just violent, he’s violent at his core and he can not be any other way as evidenced by his progressively bad behavior. It started with sending davina to her death, then progressed to killing Marcel his own nephew, both of which she forgave even tho it contradicted things she had previously said about family and friendship. Then it progressed to him thinking about killing children the same age as hope to save Klaus, then it progressed to him actually killing 4 teenage girls on a whim. He also told Marcel he would end him for no other reason besides he felt that Klaus’s love for him was a weakness. Elijah is inherently unhinged, he has nothing there to ground his monster any more since it was only kept in check all this time by Klaus’s monster and Hayley finally realizes this. The violence he has perpetrated against her and other people can no longer be ignored for the sake of a love that she is coming to realize was rooted In fear at a vulnerable time in her life and a broken childhood.

2. The brutality Hayley experienced traumatized Hayley VERY badly. People want to gloss over this because it was in Elijah’s “mind” but she experienced every second of that beating. It wasn’t a dream, it wasn’t a hallucination, it actually happened. She experienced more trauma at his hands than she has ever experienced from a man. He banged her head against a pole repeatedly, terrorized her in the woods as she screamed for help, choked her, hit her, body slammed her, tossed her against a tree like a rag doll, fed from her, and nearly killed her if not for her 7 year old intervening. To sit her and say that anything Klaus has done to her compares to that is just a misrepresentation of the truth. We know Klaus has done bad things to Hayley, the main two being when he choked her in season 1 and cursed her at the end of season 2, but Klaus has never brutalized Hayley in that manner before. Hayley has never experienced the sorta terror she experienced behind the red door at the hands of Klaus.

3. Timing is relevant here. It’s the most relevant thing when dissecting Julie’s quote about it….Elijah JUST brutalized Hayley a week ago, on the TO timeline it’s prolly only been days. She is very correct that if you subject a woman to that type of brutality at the hands of a romantic partner you can not in good conscious continue to lean into that idea that what they have is “love” and that it can just continue on. To have a woman who says repeatedly that even tho she is not perfect she does not want to invite depraved violence into her life and her child’s life just up and gloss over what happened to her with Elijah and what she now knows he’s capable of doing you set a TERRIBLE narrative for a female character. Carina had to explain this over and over again on twitter but Hayley hasn’t been perfect, she’s been selfish, violent, but SHE’S TRYING TO DO BETTER. She wants to do better. To have that be her narrative for the entire season and part of her narrative from the very beginning then have her be brutalized by her romantic partner and just continue on with their love story like it’s nothing would have been a disgrace to everything they have ever established about Hayley as a character and would have displayed a very ugly idea that a man can whoop your ass and then tomorrow it’s no big deal because “love”. She can’t fix him, it’s not her responsibility to do so either, and he’s pretty much unfixable, so what choice did they really have after making Elijah brutalize her. If you’re in that writers room as a woman it’s hard to look at that and say “but they love each other so we can’t tear them apart” at some point you have to love your female character enough to give her some growth and have her stay true to her beliefs as a woman and a parent. That’s what they did with Hayley. After seasons of brushing over the sad root of her affection for Elijah, after making her contradict herself over and over to hold on to this unfulfilling love, it sadly just couldn’t continue after is escalated to her traumatic experience behind the red door.

4. Nothing I’ve mentioned applies to Hayley’s current dynamic with Klaus, and nothing Julie said does either which is why this idea that “well Hayley doesn’t want violence so she can’t want Klaus later either” is laughable. Klaus Mikaelson hasn’t been in a violent situation with Hayley since 3x02, during which he was not her romantic partner. Klaus isn’t a depraved violent man at his core even if he is a monster, it’s actually been established that Klaus has always been much more gentle compared to his other siblings and has hardened over time. I can almost guarantee you that if Klaus was to be trapped in his own mind he wouldn’t find refuge in the darkest most depraved place of his subconscious. His core being is not the same as who Elijah is at his core which is why Klaus actually has the capacity to change and actually has done so. Klaus ahas shown progressive growth as a person over the series ESPECIALLY in his relationship with Hayley. He went from being unable to let her in early on to confiding in her about his turmoil while he was held captive, he went from trying (and failing) to control her giving her the utmost respect and autonomy, he went from believing he needed to bully his way into her life to being her true partner in every sense of the word. Klaus is doing the same thing as Hayley, something Elijah can not/has been unwilling to do which is accept your past but try to do better. Hayley herself has shown appreciation to Klaus this season for doing things that makes hope life less chaotic because she knows is hard he’s been a mess for 1000 years and change is hard for anyone but she sees he loves his daughter, he respects and cares die her, and he’s trying his best to be who she and hope needs him to be. These are two people who have had some rough times with each other, but Hayley has held Klaus accountable for every bad deed he has done towards her, she has challenged him to do better, even went as far as walking away from him when she felt he was a threat to the life she wanted for herself and hope and every time Klaus has rose to the occasion and changed. He has corrected his behavior, he has genuinely felt shame and remorse for all that he has done and has made a concerted effort to not repeat it. Out of the two men on her life right now Klaus is the only one actually doing right by her, he’s the only one there giving her space when she needs it, giving her comfort when she needs it, respecting her desires, and actively working on himself so that they can build the life that they both want for their daughter. If Hayley fell for Klaus it would not be making the same kinda statement that having Hayley stay with with Elijah would have been making. There is no violence between Klaus and Hayley, there is friendship, understanding, trust, partnership, and affection…all of which are absent from her dynamic with Elijah and was already absent even before the beat down.

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