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#i wanted to add deckard from bee and puppycat too
nightmaree-eyess · 2 years
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I’ve seen a lot of people on TikTok complain about how they rewrote the YouTube version into first three episodes and about the show in general and imo I think they’re just looking for something to hate. In this essay I’ll be telling y’all why I think these are the stupidest arguments you can make coming from someone who watched the original once in like 2016 and recently and just finished lazy in space and will definitely revisit this show.
People on TikTok hated how the first three episodes were written compared to the original cause they “changed the dialogue”…..yeah cause it’s not the YouTube version. They changed he story a bit to make sense with the rest of the show and the story they wanted to tell.
If they didn’t change things here and there there would be too much shit to fill in new viewers with so they combined episodes and gave us what we needed so we wouldn’t be lost. If you’re that upset that they didn’t add in every little detail it’s on YouTube just watch it there.
Some people said that the relationship with bee and puppy cat and bee and deckard are very different from the original. That bee and puppy cat didn’t seem like friends but that puppy cat only acted as comic relief and that bee and deckard weren’t as close.
I didn’t see an issue with bee and puppy cats relationship in lazy in space. If anything I thought they were building that relationship especially when 1. Puppy cat finds out bees a robot 2. Puppy cat confided in bee and tells her that the ward was coming for him and that’s why he was stress eating and bee said “no matter what you tell me about yourself how I think about you isn’t gonna change” 3. When puppy cat got bee a present and bee was like “hehe you love me” and he was like “nooooooo” when we all know he does. 4. He literally remembered that bee wanted to have a scavenger hunt for birthday cakes 3 months in advance. I think only a friend would remember this. LIKE FFS HE MADE HER A LIFE SIZED CAROUSEL CAKE!!! We don’t get any of that in the OG. Just the robot scene. People said that it was more impactful in the OG but again I have to disagree cause in lazy in space puppycat asks bee more questions to get to know her more (I believe correct me if I’m wrong)
If bee and deckards relationship didn’t change then it would’ve been kinda weird considering they aged deckard down in lazy in space (that’s what I heard correct me if I’m wrong) but even if that’s not right bee acted like a parental figure towards him in lazy in space but not in the original. (Also this is just a me thing but I felt like deckards crush on bee was kinda one way and bee saw him more as a friend so that’s also why I didn’t see a huge difference between their relationship)
Another argument I saw was the pacing of the show. They said it was too fast?? Literally where? Going back to the first 3 episodes they cut some shit out because it didn’t go with the story they were trying to tell so yeah it might feel fast but it was the same.
In conclusion I think people just wanna hate on this cause it’s new and they have nostalgia for the old one. It’s on YouTube go watch it. It’s not going anywhere. (But with animation being treated like shit recently let’s hope not)
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moonstone27ls · 2 years
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Thoughts on Bee and Puppycat Lazy In Space....
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Sooo thoughts... I generally liked it. A lot of amazing art and colors and almost each character was fun and I wanted more of.
There are some flaws I’m not gonna deny but this thing I don’t wanna call it in production hell but according to wiki “ Episodes 4-16 were produced in 2019; while episodes 1-3 were produced in 2021. “ So clearly some issues.
Do I have any favs? not sure I’m more impressed by the voice cast they got. And if Allegri’s given a second season hope she can get these actors again.  Kumail Nanjiani for Howell, the Jennifer Tilly for Violet/aka Cardamon’s mother, Steve Blum for Puppycat/Space Outlaw’s adult voice guys thats  Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop also an anime voice actor legend!!! (well to me he is:3).
Anyways back to topic, the voice actors are what sell their character, I loved almost every scene with Howell X3!! I enjoyed how Puppycat got an instant mancrush on Wesley XD. They had some emotional moments well for me its when poor Cardamon has a breakdown, poor little guy is 7 and is given the role of an adult. He just wants to be a kid and no one is really trying(I mean Bee tries) to be the adult and protect/shelter him.
Story.. I admit since the story even from its early days was ambiguous I can’t say “Oh its inspirational”. No its cute, I think it still is to a degree Bee trying to grow up.... I think its the add on to the stories that make it somewhat confusing.
I guess for example, Bee is a roboy/ or cyborg? there’s never been an indication how old she is. Or that aside from Cas, not many are questioning why she hasn’t aged.  So depending on how old she is it makes you wonder why she’s having difficulties being an adult. But I’m nitpicking. What I do know from this story, Violet and Bee’s father were part of Puppycat’s crew... how Violet and Puppycat found her father we don’t know. But at somepoint the ship crashed landed on... Earth? (Again not sure of the rules in the story). Violet and her father fell in love I assume with people on the planet and each had children. I assume different times of course. Since its hinted in one pic that Bee was present when Violet had Cardamon and even helped babysit him.... but then again its also hinted she helped watch after Deckard?
I think a small nitpick, just small would be Deckard’s storyline going to culinary school. From the youtube pilot and first series, I was always under the impression that Deckard was good at cooking. It even seems that well implied in the current story, how the siblings complain that only Deckard cooked... (though sidenote judging by how badly Cas judged everyone else from not growing up(why didn’t the actual older siblings learn to at least cook basics? whatever back to Deckard)..... ... but when Deckard goes to school. He’s apparently flunking? storywise I’m confused, no I don’t expect Deckard to be a Julia Childs in the making but the poor guy was struggling BD;. And even with him gone his own sibling Crispin threw shade at him saying he couldn’t even make a cake. I dunno if this was to show “Oh your dreams flop/or change” or “you can’t do everything great” or what. Feels like a slip to me.
More so after he left and even if it was unintentional some of the Wizard siblings blamed Bee for Deckard leaving. Now including the youtube series, it was always hinted Cas out of all them wanted Deckard to grow up and do well at school. And I mean yeah some of Cas’ hostilities are explained later, but always seemed Cas blamed Bee for Deckard not growing up. So why constantly complain or go “you made him leave” when thats what she wanted? 
Which means Puppycat has been in that form for more than 20 years or so... I admit I’m curious on Puppycat too. I have questions is this a Beauty & the Beast thing, is he cursed by the warlocks to stay in that form? Or is this a personal growth thing where he’ll learn and get his form back.. or does he have to see the Princess again?
Anything else that I’ve got as a headscratcher... uhh why did Bee use the toilet instead of an actual fridge to put the food in but thats about it o3o.I am somewhat surprised for as old they intend to make her, no one other than Cas questions her or the situation or that she once burned her hands and no one’s “OH NO HOSPITAL”! And why did Toast pick so many fights with Cas will pregnant shouldn’t some of those moves during the final trimester put her at risk of losing the twins?oO 
The finale had me on the edge of my seat and I wanted MORE. I REALLY hope Netflix is merciful and gives them another season. Cause I wanna know what happens next? Will they find her father? Will they avoid the warlocks... does this mean the island or just the main cast will be going on space adventures and tempwork? with Bee and Puppycat. Or Puppycat? I’m not gonna lie since I like the Wizard siblings I would love to see Cas, Wes and Howell get their own adventure world as well.
Any other thoughts I have... I guess is where is Natasha Allgeri’s head with the romance section. I’m not complaining more of observing... I’m not gonna lie after the show I was already theorizing who’s bi/straight/etc.  I say theorizing I hope thats not offensive? If so sorry I’ll try to be better. Uhh I admit I think Howell is probably gay, but I could be wrong. I’m not gonna lie its the obvious refs to anime style. It doesn’t bother me if he’s straight/gay/bi or even asexual, or if he’s just Howell. Howell is Howell and I would literally spend a whole episode hearing his voice actor.
Even though she and Toast didn’t become a thing I still wonder if Cas is bi. I say bi because when she lost what she thought was her first kiss she called out her “boyfriend”. I wonder what the direction is with Toast/Merlin though... I mean yeah they have a few moments but I wouldn’t even call them a couple.
And then we have Deckard/Crispin/Bee/and Cooking dude? I dunno the finale that Cooking Prince felt like an obvious “oh he wants Deckard”. But dude you followed a guy to an island just because he’s not giving you attention and space for that matter... little sad 8B. And stalkery.
Not gonna lie I don’t want Deckard to be with Cooking Prince. Its not that I didn’t like Bee’s episode with Crispin. Its just I dunno from the moment we got our pilot, I always thought it was hinted she and Deckard had chemistry. When we got the first series felt it even more obvious that something’s there. This series left it a bit up in the air if that makes sense.
Bee went from love interest to, “Oh she’s a mom/baby sitter figure?oO”. And why pick Crispin? I dunno if  Allegri‘s story changed over the development or what if Crispin’s relationship was to explain how she eventually met Deckard? I dunno again really up in the air with that. Which I think I get the story’s not focused on love, its focused on Bee and Puppycat.
Do I ship her and Crispin... I admit I really dunno. Their ep gave more hints of “Oh we had a thing/didn’t work out but you’ll always be close to me”. I mean even in the finale when Crispin saw Bee... “hurt?”. Instead of being “Ohmygod she’s hurt, she needs me”. His instinct is to hit on/or ask out one of her holograms... or are they her heart defenses? whatever.
I do know some fans ship Bee with Puppycat (his humanoid form obviously)... do I? Uhh dunno. Not gonna lie fanart is awesome/adorable. But I dunno if I see that. There are times when his relationship shifts to “brother figure”, sometimes literal pet relationship. I do believe he genuinely loves her and wants to protect her. Sooo yeah hope that romance department if there is one somewhat gets more cleared.
What do I want IF Bee and Puppycat are given a second season? IF this year doesn’t give me a lot of hopes on “Oh animators are respected”/ “Ohhh Netflix is good to cartoons/good shows”.....
I want those voice actors to return! I want... Cardamon and his mom to get more time together. I will be disappointed if next season comes and they just both sleep through all the story. Don’t give me a good reunion and just put it on literal pause! 
I want Cardamon/Sticky and now Violet cuteness! Like earlier I want the other Wizard siblings to see some of the other worlds with Puppycat. I want Cardamon to be allowed to be a KID. I want Bee fixed, hope she’s getting a reuinion with father. Want to see interactions with her and Violet.
Wonder if we’ll see more of Puppycat’s background cause it indicated he had a mother. I want more of Merlin and Tim’s personalities explored, I don’t think we got quite a lot of their characters. Other than that Tim knows peoples’ secrets and apparently... Merlin didn’t finish medical school? 
Bee origin story? and her father’s. Why did her dad make her? Where is her father from? I would also say who’s Cardamon’s father but I don’t think we’ll know.
I dunno see if Toast is gonna have a role beyond bugging Cas (though it was cute when the twins punched their own daddy XD). I would say show some love but thats only if its given more development/or at least where it makes sense. Cause if we see romance brought up again, I wouldn’t mind the other Wizard siblings finding love. Cause as interesting as that... fishlady/(mermaid?) ep was... I don’t think it really counted as a real date for Wes. That ep or some of it felt like refs to Splash or the Little Mermaid... if they had rejected being humanoid.
 I wanna know whats with the warlocks. Did the Space King send them to find Puppycat or is the Princess? But I feel IF they’re given a second season, thats an obvious one to address..
I think thats about it. Sorry my words are a mess 8B.
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