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Maybe Allen is suppose to be the "Adam" for Innocence like how the Earl is "Adam" for the Dark Matter side. Adam will be the one to populate (though w/all this flood talk it's technically Noah but dgm isn't a copy paste of it's inspirations) or decide what God the world will live under. In the Bible Adam failed his duty and Lucifer became the god of the world under Adam's watch. Jesus is often referred to the 2nd Adam who died to cover all sins (even original started by Adam and who will later -

2 come back again during the end days (final battle) to save humanity from destruction and take away Lucifer's control of Earth and god status of it. Then Give humanity back it's authority of Earth. Does this sound a little familiar? Kind of what the Noah have been spouting about gods and current humanity's fate. The Innocence might have picked Allen to be their Adam to enforce their plans for Earth. But this is dgm and there's one issue Allen has. He Dies Thinking Another Can Do It Better. -

3 Not only that. We've seen in DGM the 2 sides of this War aren't so black and White. What does Innocence want? Are the Noah wrong in how they do things but ultimately telling the truth about other things? If Allen wants to save the world I think he's going to have to not conform to any 1 side we've seen so far. So far no side really prioritizes saving humanity/Akuma or trying to understand everything going on like Allen. Allen has to escape the fates both Innocence and Noah desire of him -

4 and keep questioning status quo if he wants to do any long lasting good. Which thankfully is actively doing. But he also has to sacrifice himself... Better. Past Allen sacrificed himself for Nea and New thinks he'll do it willingly again when he figures it out. But Allen needs to really enforce in himself, yes he's important and ONLY he can save the world in the best way possible. Sacrifice is a noble thing but Allen can't do it too recklessly. He has to know when/how it can be used the best.

Oooh very interesting points about the Bible! I admit my knowledge there kinda dates from a while back so that’s always interesting to hear back. I’ve mentioned before not being too too found of the Allen/Jesus stuff (or well more like “I want to find more in the Ancient Testament before jumping to the New one) but like you said i doubt it’s a 1/1 equivalent when it comes to its inspirations (after all yeah, “Adam” and “Noah” already share a character not to mention the fact Mana is... a Cain figure if i don’t mix up the two? so yeah that’s a lot to just keep mixing up) so for all we know that would fit.

But also from what you’re developping if i’m getting it right we could be in a situation where the Innocence wants Allen to be the Second Adam (so kind of the Jesus part?) but ultimately Allen runs away from the Innocence. He wants to find another way. He questions both statusquos offered to him. So there Allen seems more like he’s rejecting whatever role “God(s)” would put on him to walk his own path.

And you are entierely right about the both sides and their actions. There is something extremely confusing because the Earl does mention there is a secret to the Akuma and the Black Matter that does make it all the more puzzling.

If we go by the Flood story, we could almost expect the Earl to pick some “animals to survive the Flood” type of people but this is clearly not the treatment given to the Akuma, first the way they are picked would be seriously weird if it was the case (why would it be the people who are loved that are saved and not the people who loved so hard their love had powers that challenged death for instance), second because there is a complete disregard about how the human soul evolves (Not hesitating to kill the Akuma, from Road making them self explode to Skinn beating one up, and the fact each evolutions consumes the soul and crashes it, which we’ve seen graphically described both from Allen’s eye on each evolution and on how the Dark Matter felt on Alma)

But there IS something going on with the Akuma and this is extremely puzzling if this is the part of humanity they are trying to preserve, unless there are far more secrets we are yet to discover about the Noah’s sides. But there we are: the Noah sides is full of secrets. There is also this whole focus they have by “playing by the rules” when the Order does develop the Third Exorcist Program.

So the whole morale the Noah have is still a weird one and far too complex for just “we want to destroy all of humanity”. Especially considering that there is a focus also on the Earl having a softer side for some humans in the very chapter in which he mentions the secret of the Akuma and i still don’t geeeet itttt.

Meanwhile the innocence have a more clear goal but shady execussion: Destroying the Noah and the Dark Matter. And it’s not even really “saving” people anymore per se, it’s almost like saving people is a sidenote. Or at least that’s how the Order ended up taking it. But let’s be real would the Innocence really want people to be saved this much it wouldn’t do a whole “chosen one” thing with its “apostles”. This is so unnecessary cruel from “the good guys” to force its fighters into the fight while others who would have pure souls would be rejected as fighters just because they’re not around the right innocence at the right time? how do you focus on saving humanity after that?

it’s like the Innocence has this whole righteous belief of the prestige of the Chosen One Narrative at the complete disregard from the fact than humanity is far more intimate than the big picture the Innocence sees the world through.

And the Order had lost its ways due to the very despair the innocence forced them through. Sure if they can save people the better, but when it comes to the Akuma the end justifies the means and they can’t afford to save the souls of all the suffering when there is so little means to do it. So the Order priviligize a branch of humanity instead of another, despite the fact both sides are just as much victims.

to me it feels like both the Innocence and the Dark Matter are lost in their Divine impact and don’t consider the individuals of the wars moreso that they consider their Mighty Goals and the Mighty way it presents itself. So the Noah are all about destorying the World with a side of... doing shady things, while the Order”s ‘preserving the world” comes with conditions of mostly being “or at least let’s destroy those who are hurting the world”.

Allen wants to save people. He’s a destroyer who wants to save. He wants to save all people alike, he even tries to “save” Tyki from his Noah side because his human side deserves to have its happy life away from the war. In the end Allen doesn’t care what the innocence, anything had planned for him. Like yes I think he is the Destroyer of Time, but if it happens it’s not Allen chosing it, it will just be because.. it happened. Because Allen doesn’t care about what the Big Entities put him through

The Entities themselves are the least of Allen’s interest: he uses them more as a tool to save humanity. the Innocence alligns perhaps more with his goals, but as it is for now, neither of the sides actually provide Allen with what he especially wants: to protect. Not to destroy.

So there is a lot to be said about Allen rejecting both path the Noah and the Innocence is paving in front of him. In the end like Cross says. “A path is something you create as you walk it.”. So neither sides would force Allen onto one. He will create his own.

And I think that’s what is most likely to be happening with Allen himself. And like you said, neither sides are extremely trustworthy at this point and Allen rejected them both.

So when it comes to sacrifice- yeah Allen tends to self sacrifice a lot and it seems both sides are expecting him to do so to. And in a way he still refuses to give in without trying to fight back at leasT.

The finality of how he would be willing to give himself up... I think the thing is that Allen doesn’t see Death as “a sacrifice for othrs” because there is so much far more he can do while being alive. Sacrificing his whole freedom, his possibilities for happiness by walking away from the war when he lost his innocence are htings Allen is willing to do: but die is something you would truly have to put him in a corner for him to decide to do it. There is so much more that he can sacrifice than his own life.

It’s just... gahh such a meeeess and it hurts a lot orz. I feel like i lost myself into my point there though so huh... sorry? Hope it remains clear skjhfdkj

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