#nana and i have actually been having a very extended conversation in dms about this

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on the topic of produce groups and popularity while i do think the built in fanbase any contestant has on a produce show gets is a bonus there are some anomalies in popularity that dont always guarantee produce contestant alumni success. ive and lssfm have the most popular members in izone. meanwhile everglow is popular overseas (not sure about korea they dont have many wins) with midranking/lowranking produce 48 members. but cube has a group thats about half produce 48 members mid/high ranking that barely get promo? these arent the most solid examples because a contestant doesnt have the same amount of popularity as someone in a produce group *but* weki meki has 2 produce members in their group from i.o.i (who were very popular)and they dont have much popularity to show for it. so its a balance between company and member popularity. if a good company has less popular contestants or members they can make it work.(i.e. everglow) if a bad company has a popular member its not always a surefire success. (chungha basically put her company on the map meanwhile fromis 9 had a FLOP company until hybe finally swooped in) starship and hybe hit the jackpot. popular members AND good promo.

i mean yea, it absolutely does depend on how the company handles it and how popular each individual member is. saying everyone gets the same popularity boost from being on a produce show is a bit too much of a blanket statement bc honestly it's about half and half if the popularity actually does something significant or not. like even for wanna one; you have kang daniel who's more or less a household name, and also yoon jisung, who does musicals and cute flop citypop tracks and makes songs with his dog. and there's also how the show saved nu'est from the brink, even when minhyun didn't promote with them for two years. even at the less opposite ends of the spectrum, ab6ix might as well be called daehwi and the woojins, but baejin barely stands out from the rest of cix anymore, even though they are similar groups with similar-ish popularity. and of course that's not even bringing up the mess that was x1 and how all the offshoot groups from that are doing.

#like. what the fuck is top media doing with up10tion. that was a choice i guess??????? #also seungyoun was the one who came out of that the best 100% #and some of the baby groups are STRUGGLING. but also there's other factors there too #nana and i have actually been having a very extended conversation in dms about this #and about how produce has fucked up ppls conceptions of how groups should be composed #and what type of fans produce/survival shows attract in the first place #which mainly came from us watching wild idol and slowly realizing that it is THE perfect survival show #and also our absolutely galaxy brained idea that instead of doing new rounds of kingdom or queendom #mnet should do a season where they invite all the groups and soloist offshoots from wanna one and have them do an rtk style brawl #and THEN they should do a second season thats all the x1 offshoots #we have it all planned out its gonna be great. mnet call us #w1ngdom would cause everyone within a 20ft radius intense psychic damage #and x1ngdom would be mostly wholesome and would just be the baby groups trying to beat victon and woodz #kpop questions #produce 101 #anyways this is actually my secret pitch for everyone to watch wild idol #answers #text #yoon jisung you got rigged in just bc they needed a leader and you had to put up with so much #ok we dont actually know it was him that was rigged in BUT can you imagine any of those other guys being the leader. exactly