#ppl acting disgusted w his body bc hed put on weight and had a belly/ bigger arms by the lifad era and was shirtless onstage a lot

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you know after growing up w rammstein and it being my main fixation for several years in HS and pretty briefly being in the “fandom” (here actually bc twt wasnt rly a popular site for fandom stuff yet, i rly only remember tumblr and deviantart for that) it makes me rly glad i wasnt into ghost back then lmao

#putting aside everything thats happened surrounding rammstein and till in the past few years #like ppl are obnoxious and rude and say stupid shit to/ abt tobe and the ghouls #but that tends to be a v small fraction and ppl defend them #but this was early early 2010s tumblr before it was known for discussions of minorities and political correctness and whatever #ppl just said ANYTHING and others went along with it #and a lot of it was horrific fatphobia and misogyny brought over from the 2000s since most of the prominent ppl in the fandom here back then #were adults #i specifically seeing so much shit abt richard in particular #ppl acting disgusted w his body bc hed put on weight and had a belly/ bigger arms by the lifad era and was shirtless onstage a lot #which was always crazy given he stands next to till who has ALWAYS been a bigger guy yet indisputably been the most widely adored by fans #and oh my god the way ppl would talk abt their wives/ girlfriends. #even then as a teen inwas SHOCKED by some of that shit lmao #i vividly remember somebody making fun of one of richards exes #i think abt alleged unfaithfulness while touring which i dont know if there was ever any truth behind #i vividly remember somebody saying ‘if inwas married to him id send him on tour with a box of condoms bc its inevitable’ #LIKE GIRL WHAT #ppl complained so much and still do abt tumblr being so PC #but this was an absolutely LAWLESS place before then let me tell you #those examples are still on the tamer side for sure #kids today will never know how common it used to be to say you wanted somebody you were attracted to to rape you. #like rape THEM like not ‘i wanna fuck him’ it was ‘i want him to rape me’ #ABOUT REAL PEOPLE #it was insane