You're right that he didn't have great jury management, but he wasn't as bad as Paul imo. He at least tried to right some of his wrongs, while all Paul did was say, "oh that's just who I am you'll have to deal with it!" When people confronted him. I don't really remember Tyler having bad gbm's, except for his to Scottie. Are there more examples? Not saying you're wrong I just really don't remember.
What wrongs did he try to right though besides apologizing to Bay at the end (which was clearly too little too late?) and i think theres some confusion in me saying he didnt have good GBMs, i dont mean that he left nasty ones, i mean more that he didnt use them like he could have/should have, Josh style (his one to Scottie was AWFUL though we can agree).
But imo Tyler lost the game with his treatment of Bay and Sam.
With Bay, he NEVER should have let that blow up happen after the house meeting. The shit with the sunglasses and the tea was enough, but him letting her walk away from that fight THAT upset was a huge mistake. He should have just sucked it up and apologized and it really wouldnt have affected his game (L6 wouldnt have cared imo and it would have gained him some favor with the hive). It’s been a while, but iirc she wasnt even calling him out on game stuff really, just the personal treatment she received so just fucking apologize. The first juror plays such an instrumental role in setting the tone for the jury, look at Bay, Cody, and Day! Look at Shelli in bb17! She was there repping for Vanessa every week and they were already to vote for her (minus Austin) even though she sent them all there. Letting Bay walk out of that house and into the jury house furious with him was such a big mistake because she could have easily sat there and poisoned all of them against him (not saying she did, but they did have a voting pact at one time).
Sam I think was an even bigger mistake than Bay and she’s actually where I think he lost the game. Sam was VERY clear with Tyler that she just didnt want to be lied to. iirc she told him that if they were gonna vote her out to just tell her and she wouldnt be upset but just dont lie to her. imo, he should have just sat her down and told her “look, im sorry, but day 1 i made a deal with Kaycee and that’s what I have to move forward with. i care about you and the connection we made, and ive kept my word to you so far, but I have to do what’s best for my game at this point and i dont want you to be blindsided.” but he instead sent her to the jury house semi-blindsided where she had to learn a lot of that info from the hive/Brett/Angela, which was very Paul-esque of him. Theres also that video that I cant find rn of Sam talking to Tyler about Kaycee that should have been a MASSIVE red flag to him that he couldnt have beat Kaycee.
I’ve seen people argue that the Machiavellian/mastermind/whatever you want to call it game cant win BB anymore, and i dont think that’s true, i think people are just playing them incorrectly. I think one fatal flaw that Tyler had (Paul too) was playing for TV instead of the jury. All those blindsides and gif moments that he thought he was making were great for TV sure, but that’s not how you win the game. He was more concerned with playing a game that would look good instead of one that would win him the game. I’ve said before too that I think Tyler tried to play a prejury game post jury and I still think that’s true too, but it ultimately doesnt matter how good of a game you played, and it damn sure doesnt matter how good your game looked on TV, all that matters is how the jury perceives your game and that’s largely on you as a player. Ik i keep mentioning her, but just look at Vanessa, she very much so played a mastermind game, but she would have won in any f2 scenario bc she was great at population control/jury management! I don’t think Tyler was as bad as Paul either, but they’re both in that same camp of being more concerned with being an “iconic” player instead of actually winning, at least imo,
I literally didnt mean for this to be an essay so yall can save me all your “No ones reading that comments” ksjdflksdjf
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