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#the Syntax and Huntsman one is fucked up btw
vegalocity · 1 year
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Just thought of something. What if, hear me out, someone where to try using the oblivion song to undo any damage done to another in the first place? Say, a certain desperate Monkie Kid who wants to help a certain demon prince turned mindless doll by a clone of himself~
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So this HAS been plotted out before, both by myself and @@unseelie-robynx through the Tyrant Prince Timeline (though not between Xiaotian and Red) and something more close to the letter with @sleepy-pyggy over dms
So to start with, while it IS possible to undo the effects of Oblivion while also USING Oblivion to do so, it depends entirely on the person in question's knowledge on both the music and the person it's being used on.
In Tyrant Prince this concept is explored actually, through Syntax and Huntsman.
See since one of the main incurring incidents in the TP timelines is that Syntax goes to save Huntsman against direct orders and barely dodging getting caught by the rebellion, he's placed in charge of taking care of a still thoroughly brainwashed Huntsman (it ain't pleasant for anyone involved there's several escape attempts to be thwarted)
But eventually Huntsman is able to get... partially lucid (because Syntax had started acting overtly rebelliously and the Queen re-juiced him with Spider venom giving him another amnesiac bout and then exposing Huntsman TO Syntax like that) Lucid enough to know that he's had his brain screwed with and wants to get better. it's still really rough as they try to slowly and painfully deprogram his mind, but there's progress.
enough progress for Huntsman to get frustrated over his supposed LACK of it and manages to get hold of a copy of the music (over several nights of 'hey Syntax could you teach me this or that thing about technology? my latent brainwashing means i just like to listen to people talk yes i know its really late and you're about to pass out but i know you're weak to making me happy so pleeeaasssee?') And he basically goes up to Spider Queen and says 'hey i'm still mad at you for leaving me behind and also re-spiderizing Syntax but fix my brain' and Spider Queen was like 'sure'
then when he stewed in his own falling off the wagon SQ was like 'fuck i don't know how to do that' so she assigned it to someone that did.
Obviously, Syntax himself. whom has been part of the reverse project and thus has been experimenting with Oblivion, and while he doesn't remember Huntsman particularly well right now, is VERY invested in freeing him without pressing any of his own will onto Huntsman.
What he ends up settling on is not getting rid of anything, but sort of... de-tethering it all. putting a block in Huntsman's brain that keeps Oblivion from working without his explicit permission, and detaching all the 'lessons' and 'truths' everyone in the court ever put on him, into things that have no power over him and he can easily brush aside, to essentially let HUNTSMAN decide what he wants his new normal to be.
It's not a fun day for anyone and everyone walks out of it with significant trauma and a faint silver lining of Huntsman being essentially immune to Oblivion in the same way Syntax is
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And then in my discussion about the whole thing with Pyggy Xiaotian actually is the one that tries to fix Red, but he knows nothing about both the music AND not much at all about Red Son, so he kind of makes more of a mess of things. He can get Red Son thinking again, and he can get Red Son kinda sorta making decisions, but he's still feeding into Red Son's addiction, as well as his reliance on him.
Red Son's addiction gets BAD after a point until it comes that Xiaotian comes home from work hours before Red was due to show up for 'dating things' onlyt o find the demon splayed out in his apartment, clearly broken in to dope himself up on the record and so far down in his own brain it took aWHILE of guiding to get him to actually wake up.
Basically you can do a lot with Oblivion TO oblivion, INCLUDING 'Oblivion doesn't work on you anymore' but you kinda can't make it not addictive anymore, and Red's been getting nightly hits for MONTHS now. Things kind of keep escalating from there as Xiaotian is trying to keep Red Son safe but keeps accidentally making it worse
he eventually Cold turkey's him 'handcuffed to the bedpost' style and that DOES manage to get Red Son clean, but that's only the BEGINNING of the drama there lmao
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vegalocity · 3 years
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You know now that I think about it. With the rewrite, has Min Yi met MK and his friends? What do they think of these big scary spiders that tried to take over the city hanging around this sweet Little girl? Also since Huntsman and Goliath seem to be hanging with Syntax’s family, I’m assuming Spider Queen didn’t survive being souped? - Pixel Anon
Yeah so while the First Story attempt didn't quite pan out, i actually think the first half of it, the part that technically takes place during Season 2 is probably still valid as a thing for the bab to have been doing beforehand, So one could say that she probably has briefly met the Monkie Crew, even if only the one time
Mostly because I like the idea of this little super srs six year old walking into Pigsy's noodles ordering a bowl 'with the least amount of vegetables please' and pulling out one of those little kid clasp-purses and overturning it and OODLES of yuan just clatter out.
(as usual i got carried away so read more under cut)
If one assumes that Minyi did meet the Monkie Crew, then she'd probably want to tell them directly that she found her daddy and everything's fine thank you so very much for keeping an eye out for him but Minyi solved this case on her own!
Then you know you've got Minyi dragging Syntax every place she was able to make part of her 'contacts' to show everyone that her Daddy's back and thank you so much for your help! And they walk up to Pigsy's Noodles and there's that moment of 'wait why does this place look familiar-'
"Oh shit nerdy spider" "Oh great, You." "Hello Mr. Monkie Kid! Look! I found my Daddy! o^o"
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"Minyi when did you meet this man?" "WAIT DETECTIVE GIRL IS YOUR DAUGHTER?!"
But if one would say they didn't, and one of the Crew (probably Xiaotian for the sake of simplicity) just sees this perfectly normal looking little girl being carried around by one of the Spider Clan, the first impression is definitely gonna be 'Did they kidnap a child? Why???' Leads to a little adventure of following Minyi and whatever Spider Parent in question she's got with her
Lets say Huntsman got blackmailed to taking her to the aquarium or something bc Syntax got that first scenario so lets switch it up
So Xiaotian's just comically following Huntsman and Minyi all day doing innocuous things that Huntsman is complaining about being a waste of time, but still following behind after after she grabs his hand and says "Look it says this fish is native only to the Ma-... Mariana Trench... Woah that's all the way in Mexico!" "-tonelessly- Wow really?" "Yeah and this says it's like... Suuuuppeerrr deep too" "-dead eyed- How deep is it, runt?" "This says it goes deeper than Mt. Everest!" "-perks up- Wait really?" (MK behind the octopus exhibit like "??????? man i wish i could read lips")
But like actually though, I DO think Spider Queen made it out, But what happened is, time in Spirit Plane Jail and Being Soup respectively for the Spider Boys and Queen kinda... took the oomph out of things for the lot of them.
Basically going from actual thoughts of 'restoring the Spiders to their rightful glory' and all that to more of a 'punch clock villains' type setup, like the lot of them will cause some havoc if it's a lazy saturday and no one's got anything better to do, but they're basically neutral parties at this point. They're all kinda unofficially alternating between the new lair and Syntax's apartment, because one of these places has higher security and more room for everybody, but the other one has a STOVE. And INTERNAL HEATING ("I'm WORKING ON IT" Syntax yells from the other room)
Spider Queen's alive btw but she doesn't show up at the apartment much because A) she wouldn't disgrace herself like that
and more importantly
B) Minyi fucking HATES that woman. She doesn't care that because she and Auntie Xiuying were more adopted into the Spider Clan than not that makes her technically her Queen too, Minyi cannot STAND Spider Queen. And she makes it Very Obvious. And you know, maybe the first three or four times it was kinda funny to see Syntax's Venom-induced Loyalty clash against his Parent Instinct, but it's kinda not worth it. They'll get used to eachoher eventually ("No we won't!" Minyi yells from the other room)
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