#the Tuvok/Chakotay/Janeway command trio should have been like

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Something about this interaction between Harry & Janeway - specifically Janeway but it's notable that Harry's the one listening because I think, say, Chakotay or B'Elanna might push back against the idolization of this 'it was different back in those days' way of thinking.

#Get the Tranq she's 'Good Old Boys'-ing! #never beating the Starfleet stooge accusations #which I think should have been brought up more between her and Chakotay #instead of just making Chakotay like Starfleet again so they can be together #the Tuvok/Chakotay/Janeway command trio should have been like #Janeway: I love Starfleet in an uncomplicated way and though it's painful sometimes I believe following code is the only way to proceed #Tuvok: I agree with the captain and this makes her believe in her decisions more - though I would attempt to obey her commands even if they #weren't regulation. #<- Janeway doesn't want to examine this #Chakotay: I hate Starfleet because of very valid reasons and I don't think following orders and codes from superiors is the best thing #in every situation. I want everyone here to examine their biases which cannot necessarily be done if biases are written into the #codes. We aren't in Starfleet space. We might have to adapt. #but it's nowhere near that nuanced bc you know. Starfleet Good. Starfleet Good. Starfleet Good. Maquis Bad. Maquis Bad. Maquis Bad. #Or you know: 'Maquis doing this the WROOONG way...violence isn't the answer :(' maybe violence is the answer sometimes. #when it's the only language the people in power understand. #maybe 'let's talk about this' is an insidious military tactic sometimes actually #Also Harry immediately going from 'They falsified logs?' to 'I always wondered it'd be like back then...~' #He and Janeway................Him and Janeway are!!! AGH #People think Harry's way too timid. They think this because he's asian and an ensign so they make him timid & obedient #But he's very willing to break or bend the rules - he's willing to fight he likes action and adventure and he's very similar to Janeway #where they'll both die and go to hell and come back just to save their crew - their friends - their family

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Voyager should have had an episode where the command trio beat the absolute hell out of each other while blaming each other for being stuck in the delta quadrant as the fever pitch of a rising tension that was building throughout the episode. Like, they're absolutely being pushed to do it by some outside force. Maybe it's a telepathic being - maybe it's that they're stuck in some arena or an alien court or a time loop only the three of them are aware of - no matter the specifics, the sentiment behind their words has to be true and it has to be something they've been keeping back for months, maybe years. That fear and hatred and blame that doesn't really have an actual target because it's not actually rational but 'who's to blame' doesn't have to be capital T true to feel true. If Chakotay hadn't been in the badlands, If Janeway hadn't made that choice, If Tuvok hadn't supported it... "You trapped us here. It's your fault. If you hadn't-! If you hadn't-! If you hadn't-!" are just echoes of "I trapped us here. It's my fault. If I hadn't-! If I hadn't-! If I hadn't-!" Because at the end of the day more than being angry or hateful they're despairing in their own ways. Episode probably has a somber end - they beat whatever it was and it's a victory! They won by working together even after they beat each other half to death! But after the celebration we see them alone in their quarters...silent. Gazing out at the stars, into a candle's flame, at that same family picture before turning away. Because even though they won they're still there in the delta quadrant. Is that really victory?

#fake star trek voyager episodes my beloved #the thought of a time loop wherein the three of them are at times aware of the loop and at times aren't but it's ONLY the three of them is #a separate but interesting thought I had while writing this... #of course the looped time would be 'Caretaker' #st voy #star trek voyager #Chakotay/Janeway/Tuvok #Chakotay #Kathryn Janeway #Tuvok #and yes I think people undervalue the fact that Tuvok agreed with Janeway when she made that decision in 'caretaker' too much #idk enough about the chakotay buzz to know whether or not they also do this with how Chakotay also co-signs the decision once it's made #instead of fighting back against it which he very much COULD have done #I just think the complicated 3 way uneven guilt is more interesting than 'Janeway did it it was 100% her alone' #I love seeing characters devolve...even a starfleet captain and a vulcan can be driven to wrestling in the mud they think they're so above #and maybe it's 'the worst version of themselves' but maybe it's also a release - a relief you just can't get from talking