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#the fact that ivans main thing is being an observer too lmao like someone pointed out his eyes literally look like cameras
shakingparadigm · 3 months
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do you guys think Till is aware of Ivan's feelings and chooses not to reciprocate, is a little aware that there's something more between them, or is just completely fucking dense
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I know the second one is probably the most accurate, but I'm personally leaning towards the last because. look at these man they fucking take me out. like he's not even LOOKING
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imthepunchlord · 7 years
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Me Rewatching ML: Evillustrator
I guess Nath really likes Climatika and Lady Wifi’s design to dream about them. That or the ML team really liked their designs and wanted to bring them back in some way XD they are really good designs and fun villains. 
Hm, rewatching now, don’t know if the ship of Marinette/Nath appeals to me anymore. This dream sequence seems to suggest that he connects to the trope that the hero that saves the damsel must get her naturally, for he deserves it for his efforts. 
Also thinking Marinette needs to be saved; that would be quite a wake up call. Far more likely she’ll save you. She is scary. There is a solid reason why she can go solo just fine. 
Nathanael is failing science. 
Mendeleiev wipes her hand on shirt after dropping Nath’s picture. She calls his really good drawings chicken scratch. 
Juleka sits next to Nath in physics, Rose sits on the other side. Juleka and Nath are possible friends. Also Mendeleiev might’ve separated Rose and Juleka possibly from talking too much in class. 
Rose and Ivan sit alone. That is sad. 
Mendeleiev picks Nath up like some cat she’s ready to throw out. 
Marinette sees Nath’s sketchbook falls open, is confused why he drew her. 
Chloe is amused to see Nath crushing on Marinette, confirms what Marinette certainly wondered.
I saw Nath akumatized through humiliation, with Mendeleiev being the biggest instigator, Chloe’s verbal reveal about his crush in front of the class being the final snap.
And with Nath upset that Chloe revealed his crush to the class, he is definitely a very private person. Don’t know about him being shy, but definitely reserved and private. 
“Artists are so emotional. I love it.” Speaking from experience of having an artist friend? Gabriel certainly can be rather reactive when agitated. And Mama, who I do like the idea did play piano, is described to be very emotional and sensitive. You referring to both or just one? Most likely Mama though is who he might be thinking of since she seems a lot more reactive than Gabriel. 
“You tired of having your creative spirit crushed?” With this, I would definitely count Mendeleiev as the big main cause of Evillustrator, because it is only her that picks on him for his drawing, which is what his transformation resolves around. 
Alya why do you look offended to work with Nino and Adrien? Do they spew puns together? Are you and Nino still working out things? Is it kind of awkward? Or did you want alone time with Nino? Probably alone time with Nino if they are dating at this point. 
Mendeleiev officially doesn’t give two shits about making Chloe happy. 
“I hate dealing with it.” This is like the perfect summary of Chloe. 
Alya loves Marinette, but not enough to deal with Chloe and Sabrina, who she both refers to as “twosome of terror”. 
Marinette is appeased with just being mentioned to Adrien. 
Marinette used tackle. 
NINO AND ROSE ARE FRIENDS. 
Alix’s locker is opposite of Chloe’s and it looks like it’s on the far left end. 
Marinette is unaware of how Chloe and Sabrina’s friendship works. 
Chloe and Sabrina have known each other since elementary (grade school in French), which is where this started. 
I find it funny that when Chloe states that Sabrina has to do what she says, Sabrina’s smile just drops right then and there and she has this “wait” expression.
I like the touch of detail that you can see Sabrina thinking this over while Chloe and Marinette argue, like you can tell she’s looking over facts and observations and considering what Marinette said to what Chloe insists. 
While Marinette is open enough to work and interact with Sabrina, Sabrina has left a bad enough impression that Marinette is a bit put off to receive a hug from Sabrina, very different from the sudden hug she received from Alya in Bubbler, which she quickly accepts despite her surprise. Here Marinette is just really put off and doesn’t seem to know how to respond. 
Despite this Marinette is open to test the waters and develop a friendship with Sabrina, though definitely still unsure.
Sabrina suggests to Marinette that they should reveal Chloe to the teacher. They do have a right to do so and should with Chloe hardly doing any work, but for Sabrina to propose this out of nowhere is very sudden and off putting; even Marinette is pretty put off and unsure about it. Kinda gives me an impression that Sabrina can be shifty with loyalties if she sees a better opportunity for a nicer friendship, at least what she grasps as friendship which is someone helping her do work. Really does make me think about the possibilities of Lila and Sabrina in s2, with Chloe’s redemption very likely resolving around her connection to Sabrina, which does need to change for both to get better. 
Day’s not over yet and Marinette is already tired. And doesn’t want to be in the middle of Chloe and Sabrina’s fight. 
Sabrina can be appeased/tempted with bribery, something Chloe has likely discovered works in getting past any fights. 
Chloe seems genuinely think that this is how friendship works, with friends that answer her whims and do what she wants. Being spoiled by the mayor and having Adrien and Sabrina as her only close friends, I can see how she thinks this is how it works. I’ll be looking forward to seeing her struggle as QB, cause LB, CN, and fox!Alya aren’t going to cave to her at all. And you have to do actual work. I am looking forward to a hard, painful redemption for Chloe. 
Chloe really cares about her hair. This is the most I hear about when she’s distressed. 
Fresh as an akuma, with a power to erase and create, and the worse Evillustrator can think of to torment Chloe is drop a bunch of hats on her and blow her with a hair dryer. 
Omg Adrien... so many puns... 
With Chloe, Chat is doing the questioning, a role LB usually does. LB though has this grossed out expression on her face. 
“Yay! Ladybug said I’m adorable!” There she goes with her crush. And is bothered that LB didn’t really smile right. She wants the perfect picture of them together. 
LB is so tired and done. 
Chat is calling out on LB for her attitude here. 
This is the first fight I’ve ever seen between LB and Chat. 
A frustrated Marinette will throw her bag when she gets home. 
Damn that’s a lot of missed phone calls. With all of this happening in the same day, it takes her a couple of minutes of travel from school, to Chloe’s, to home, and Marinette only lasted probably five minutes at most in Chloe’s company, I guess she’s about ten to fifteen minutes late to get in contact/meet up with Sabrina. And Sabrina called her constantly in that short time period, possibly suggesting that she’s a clingy friend, something that will certainly be an issue when Chloe gets her miraculous. 
Evillustrator don’t erase your crush’s window, that is not reassuring. I would’ve flipped out and thrown something at you. 
I say this crush on Marinette is pretty new since he doesn’t seem to know her very well; plus in a web episode, Marinette doesn’t list Nathanael as one of her friends (even Sabrina and Chloe got mentioned). 
Marinette a bit unsettled by infatuated akuma, and a likely reaction to someone she doesn’t know well approaching her romantically.
 Nathanael has a nervous habit of touch the back of his head. 
Pfffft, Evillustrator gives himself intense anime eyes. And of course Marinette has adorable, big eyes. It really does echo how he views them both. 
Look at my daughter go, making plans on the fly. 
And even when frustrated with Chloe, she makes sure and akuma won’t go after her. 
And she has the utmost trust in Chat to do his job well despite their little spat. I love this trust she has in him. Tikki approves of Marinette relying on Chat. 
Chat is an attentive guard cat. 
Evillustrator confirms that Adrien has physics down. 
Chat isn’t amused with Chloe’s cat pun. 
Adrien needs to learn to say no. This push over.
When LB tells him to leave Chloe, he kind sighs and looks disappointed, mostly likely thinking LB is brushing off Chloe’s danger again.
How long was Sabrina standing in that doorway waiting for Marinette? It looks like she’s been standing there for a while, no move to knock or anything. That hints that Sabrina will stand around and wait for Chloe.
Body language and expression suggest to me that Marinette is still unsure about how to handle/respond to Sabrina. 
I think most likely for both girls to develop, grow, and have healthy friendships, this current one has to broken up between each other and both willing to change and learn what a real friendship is and have a good, solid redemption. In the future if they’re up and willing, they can have a go at friendship again, but for sure, after they have developed.
MARICHAT YES.
With how quickly Chat arrived from Chloe to Marinette’s, through miraculouses, that’s just a couple of minutes of travel. 
Boy immediately moves to kiss her hand with his introduction. He wants to make make sure this “first” meeting goes right so much. 
Lmao, his face just screams “score!” 
There he goes, flexing and flirting and putting on a show. He wants to impress Marinette so much. 
I love this different opinion that Chat and Nath have of Marinette. In Nath’s dream, Marinette needs to be saved, to rely on him to get her out of that trouble. But here, Chat asks Marinette if she would help him, suggesting that he knows and trusts that she is capable, that she is his equal in this and can help him, not just a damsel in distress for him to impress with saving her. Even recognizes her to be a helpful Ladybug to him tonight (which understandable unnerves Marinette). 
And he’s so sad to say that LB is busy. He was probably looking forward to working with LB AND Marinette. And he rings his bell. 
Chat is pleased with Marinette’s overdramatic fangirling. 
I will say, this is a very nice date Evillustrator put together. 
Promises are important to Nathanael. Marinette it looks like appreciates this. 
Marinette does a little wave to Chat when he’s behind them, subtly telling him to wait. I love that touch of detail. 
“...you’re just like Chloe. Teasing me, mocking me, leading me on!” To make comparisons like these means that they’ve happened before, and that possibly not only has Chloe picked on Nath, but evidently lead him on too. Maybe Nath was the first one Chloe encountered to have a crush on her. Something she likely took advantage of, and sparked her finding amusement in boys confessing to her (like Kim in DC). 
Evillustrator can jump, damn. 
14, Tikki pops out of the purse where Chat could’ve seen her if he looked down by chance. 
Adrien’s first instinctive response to Marinette coming up with a smart plan is to pull her close and flirt. Marinette doesn’t respond positively to the sudden closeness. 
Chat is more than fine to back off, and Marinette is still physically comfortable with him. Bless these dorks. 
Lmao, he still wants to be impressive. 
15, Tikki floats into the open, and if Chat looked back, would’ve seen her. 
Chloe, all this effort wasted to try and appeal to Mendeleiev, who don’t give two shits; you could’ve been done a long time ago. 
Chat left first, with Marinette grumbling for a minute, yet LB is there first? Is LB hero faster than BC or did she purposely go faster? Or maybe she it’s her knowing the streets better? 
Look at these two. They’re flirting. 
“...this is known as the final showdown.” “...she’s a baddie!” This tells me that Nath bases his thinking off comics, or at least uses examples of comics with heroes. Also, declaring Chloe’s a “baddie” and deserves to be harassed, that’s a pretty black and white view to have. Also adds to why he didn’t go after Mendeleiev, he believes it was her right to call him out for drawing in her class. And yes, she is, but she doesn’t have the right to treat his work with such disrespect (reacting to his drawings in disgust, calling it chicken scratch). 
“Once I have them all in my grasp, I will have absolute power!” So HM wants all miraculouses. Or at least for sure, the ones he knows about. 
“...they only made matters worse.” Chloe you tsundere, that’s not what I saw earlier. This is a public front, you still adore LB. 
Alya is more than happy to put aside her personal feelings for Chloe for an interview. 
I stand that Adrien was totally waiting for Marinette in the locker next to hers. He was not there before.
Marinette’s locker is the 2nd from the last on the far right of the row next to the wall. And Chloe and Marinette share the same locker row. 
Sabrina is back to being happy to work for Chloe again, Marinette is baffled. 
Hi Adrien. Just out of nowhere, he totally had to come out of that locker. This nerd. Being a cat. Hiding in spaces and waiting to pop out. 
And Adrien, wanting to make sure Chat left a good impression on Marinette. He really cares that Chat left a good impression. 
Marinette states that Adrien is far more awesome than Chat, Adrien isn’t bothered at all. He is pleased enough that Marinette has deemed Chat awesome. 
16, it’s a school day, people coming in to gather their stuff for the morning, and Tikki’s just hanging out in the open on Marinette’s shoulder where she can be seen.
I RECOGINZE THAT. That is like one of the earliest concepts of ML that Thomas Astruc did, isn’t it? 
Also it seems Nath’s crush on Marinette is over, hinting that he possibly has some memory of what happened, though probably fleeting. If he does have a crush now, most likely for LB. 
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