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#this is mostly to remind myself. i'll see this tmo
madtype · 2 years
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remind me to write up a post about my thoughts on
1. the complexities of makoto and majima's relationship and experiences with each other in y0 and the aftermath of it throughout their lives
2. interpreting the relationship that kiryu and majima have with each other and comparing that to the reductive, honestly kind of homophobic and definitely Extremely boring way that intense fandom types tend to portray them
#this is mostly to remind myself. i'll see this tmo#i have so so so many thoughts on both these things#makoto & majima thoughts can be summarized by:#their relationship isn't strictly romantic OR platonic or anything specific it's just love#and the Kind of love it is also is hard to pin down bc both of their experiences with love have been extremely skewed#and from what we as the audience know primarily within the context of abuse#kiryu & majima thoughts can be summarized by:#it is undeniable that they care deeply about each other and love each other#and that fighting is their primary form of emotional and physical intimacy#AND that the foundation of their love is shared experiences & mutual understanding of their own emotional stunting#there are so many complicating aspects to their relationship that ultimately result in a relationship that is deeply intimate and that they#can Only have with one another. and there's implicit trust in that.#so WITH that in mind... i fucking hate people who reduce them to hotted sexy gay men who are so cutesy and nice nd [insert homophobia here]#i hate when theyre reduced to the same goddamn shipping dynamic EVERY fandom uses whenever two men like. show any care for each other#where they completely ignore the actual fun and interesting and complex relationship so they can just make them do penis at each other#(i'm a gay man i promise i'm not being evil. I do penis at men. this is a joke even if it is in bitterness)#if i spend any longer in these tags they will turn into an essay so no more.
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