#without actually deploying spiritual power when playing the turmoil component until after the staircase

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Was Nie Mingjue qi deviating when he insulted JGY's mom, pushed him down the stairs, and tried to cut off his head? Bc those do not seem like the actions of a reasonable and just man in his right mind, but I've seen some people defending that bit recently and I wanted to check (I don't own the book, otherwise I would have looked myself lol)

- yunmeng-jiang

i'm really glad i haven't seen the posts defending nmj's conduct on the staircase lol. man. okay:

nmj is not qi deviating during that scene in the novel, no. jgy doesn't begin playing turmoil for nie mingjue until after the confrontation on the staircase (and i am not interested in relitigating this discourse again, anyone else who may see this and feel inclined to argue with me). so while i definitely feel that nmj's continued cultivation with baxia has influenced and more deeply entrenched his hatred and distrust of jgy, he is not qi deviating in that moment. his qi deviation happens at the martial conference about two to three months later, if i recall the timeline as laid out in the empathy flashback + wangxian's conversation with lan xichen.

which makes it worse in some respects, doesn't it. 😕

#asks answered #there was some good discussion last year around how jgy might have managed to blend turmoil into cleansing #without actually deploying spiritual power when playing the turmoil component until after the staircase #we know that jgs wanted jgy to get rid of nmj because jgy confirms this for us during the guanyin temple confrontation #but we also know from wwx that cleansing was actually working as it should have when jgy was playing it for nmj #so i tend to think it's possible that jgy prepared the blended music Just In Case he couldn't get da-ge to back off #of wanting to see xue yang executed #but then The Staircase Incident happened and. well. #we all know the rest #mdzs meta #he did crimes??? good for him 😌 #nie meangjue 🤯