#you can't play the whole game on tutorial. the contradictory nature of her stance between morality & ut's genre is built into her character

[carlyraejepsans]

with toriel and asgore it's like. they're both flawed and their flaws parallel one another, but they're not EQUALLY flawed... like..... come on......

#let's be serious here. just say you don't like toriel and move on. but don't pretend her hypocrisies were in any way comparable #in size in subsequent damage or in blame to asgore's own #the game goes out of its way to show asgore's actions as wrong. both towards his people and towards toriel. noble yes. sympathetic. tragic. #heartwrenching. narratively impeccable and capable of genuine chance. but fundamentally the wrong choice made by a good man #toriel may not have made the best possible choice at every turn but her final intentions were the morally correct ones #she just did what she KNEW was right. even when it meant leaving her entire life and people behind to live in isolation. #asgore backed toriel into that corner just as much as he did himself #he was a good man who was in a world of hurt and that decision hung over him for the rest of his life but it WAS. HIS. DECISION. #you cannot take that from him. you cannot take the teeth out of his character like that #and you cannot take toriel's role as the person who challanges and refutes his decision from her #her entire character was created as a subversion of rpg motherhood. and how it had so little of motherhood in it. #letting children venture out into the wilderness to face god knows what god knows where #WHICH IS!!! IN ITSELF!!!! A NARRATIVE PARADOX. because it's something that the genre requires for the story to exist #you can't play the whole game on tutorial. the contradictory nature of her stance between morality & ut's genre is built into her character #that's what makes her so freaking interesting to begin with!!!!!! like. #OUGH #undertale #toriel #asgore #entry log