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wlwshipper·12 hours agoText

leighlew3:

I just re-read this and I really don’t think it’s saying what people think it is. I’ve never seen a more vague answer. The plural of possibilitieS (?!) and even saying “THE AMOUNT OF POSSIBILITIES”. The lack of a single name or pronoun used in any way. She’s a smart person and seems very careful with her wording. So…

Clearly, TVLine framed this as K/W clickbait for outrage and views. And they got it.

Also “it’s cool that anybody was even interested in her” vibes ain’t exactly a ringing endorsement for William. 😂

Talk to me when she flat out says his name or she thinks he’s right for her. 😉

Still, do I think the show is crazy enough to impale themselves on this d… ship? Yes. Absolutely. So please don’t take this as some kind of false hope. I’m just sayin’.

The main thing any fans still hanging onto this mess should concern themselves with moving forward is the overall disconnect and manner in which a producer/writer from the show could so easily RT this and then block a fan just asking tough but polite questions in response.

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smallandsundry:

this was an unused option b sketch for a supercorp zine promo poster but i still kind of like it

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

lifeofanerdygirl:

Yeah there’s been a lot of reading in between the lines which is frustrating. I guess I’m just staying hopeful until we get an absolute response that says Kara and William are happening. Which of course we won’t get until closer to the new season or until the season actually starts which is so far away. I feel like I don’t want to give in just yet.

liapetros:

That may make sense but I, for once, am tired of reading between the lines and that’s all we’ve been doing these past months with this show. :/

lifeofanerdygirl:

Still trying to have some hope 🙏🏻

slightly-ducky:

part of me feels that William was always meant to be a stepping stone - that he was never really meant to be a lasting love interest. I think Kara & William’s relationship was honestly meant to be a ploy to stretch out the distance between Kara and Lena into season 6 while showcasing how unhappy Kara is in the absence of emotionally intimate relationships (for example, the one she had with Lena for a few years). it’s the only way I can think to explain how awkward K&W’s interactions were. it wasn’t just the acting. it was all over the writing as well. that type of writing doesn’t even necessarily fit if the writers were just trying to no-homo the girls, as I have seen suggested.

granted, we all interpret scenes and body language differently, but for me, once the show dipped its toes into “romantic” moments with Kara & William, things just got weirdly uncomfortable fast. Kara never actually seemed happy to spend time with William. she never forgot her troubles when she was with him or was able to breathe easy in his presence (except maybe game night). William seemed to just be a new way for Kara to hurt herself - as in, “I’m lying to yet another person in my life.”

long story short, I think the writers were trying to work Kara toward an epiphany moment (eventually). I think K&W were meant to feel inorganic and for Kara to ultimately voice that their connection was just, I don’t know, not *right*. but the writers severely misunderstood their audience. I don’t think they had any clue just how much people DIDN’T want to watch Kara enduring a relationship she didn’t want just so she could eventually figure out what she did want. then when the writers tried to change the story mid-stream to address the backlash, they ended up making their story even more disjointed.

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

ghost–ranger:

And honestly, if they do go foward with the Kara/Willy shit, it just drives home our point 50 times over: If Lena were a man, Supercorp would’ve been canon ages ago.

Because all the things they’re claiming Willy did that was romantic in like 3 episodes (bringing her food, worrying about her safety) Lena has done countless times over 4 years.

So no, we were never delusional. Theyre simply just cowards.

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

ghost–ranger:

So…that Kara/Willy article… lets talk about it

So the article itself wasnt even that bad. Melissa gave a very vague quote about romance, didnt even mention Willy, and then the writer of the article formed his own opinion around it. Honestly, whatever, i wouldve just written it off as a stupid clickbait article..

If it wasnt for that one Jay producer’s behavior afterwards.

I dont know how disconnected from your audience you need to be to believe they actually want this, but oh wow.

There have been like a dozen articles about Supercorp after the finale, all of them ignored, but there is one, count em one, article thats pro superforced and this dude latches onto it like ‘SEE! THE FANS WANT IT!’

And then goes on a blocking spree of the fans that are rightfully saying 'um, no we dont’

Embarrassing.

But yeah, that behavior tells me everything i need to know. They’ve learned nothing, refuse to listen, and would rather bury their head in the sand.

But, to be a little more hopeful… a lot can change in a year. Hopefully someone higher up gets to them and is like 'uh, are you crazy? This “romance” made 200k nope it out of here between episodes, you cant do that if you want people to come back’

Im just…wow. I don’t what to say at this point. We’re really nearing lost cause territory.

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

karasupergirlxoxo:

The f*cking audacity. A head writer retweets an article saying william and kara are a slowburn relationship, SERIOUSLY? william is romantic because he brought kara food and got shot??? men do the bare minimum and get praised. WHAT. ABOUT. LENA.

LENA brings Kara food all the time AND flowers. LENA has been in danger for Kara all the time. LENA was kidnapped and almost died. KARA brings lena food from PARIS. LENA has saved Kara’s life. KARA has saved Lena’s life. The 100th episode proved that them not being together would result in catastrophy. Supercorp is the SOULMATE SLOWBURN LOVE STORY!

The disconnect from their audience is pathetic. The show gives Supercorp romantic coding, clois parallels, and romantic soulmate dialogue. They gaslight us all into thinking we are delusional for seeing them as romantic. They emotionally manipulate us year after year for our views. They do not care or respect us at all. I AM SO TIRED

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

forevercharmed320:

How is W*lliam being willing to put himself in danger for Kara considered romantic but Lena literally standing between Kara and kryptonite AND going out into the field with her, so she wouldn’t be alone, even though Kara was still mad at her apparently isn’t?!?!?!

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

leighlew3:

My inbox just blew up from everything that happened today. 

So… Benoist gave a very oddly vague quote about slow burn romance and Kara’s love interest and “the amount of possibilities” that was framed by a media outlet’s writer who in the past was a big champion of Kara/Mon-El, as being pro-William/Kara. Not sure I trust the framing of this at all, considering her use of plural terminology and vagueness and not even saying his name. 

Still, yes. I saw the producer (JF) retweet it. And Maines like it. And that same producer started blocking fans who were reacting badly to it with tweets that were very polite and firm but calm and entirely valid. 

Yes, I kinda think this is the final nail in a coffin for the show. 

I don’t blame Benoist because I still think that article is… shady, and possibly framed out of context. But the actions of the producer/writer validating the ONE Kara/William push in a small article while conveniently and blatantly ignoring the MANY articles that highlight and support Kara/Lena, and blocking fans for saying things absolute truths he simply doesn’t like or want to hear? 

It’s gross. It’s fragile and egotistical. And it’s not what any of this is supposed to be about. But I guess I’d be pretty upset too if the season that had my name all over it was universally panned failure that practically killed the show. 

I think today you got some answers about the future of the show not from that article or Benoist quote which came from an interview conducted in late April, and was vague as hell, but from the people behind the scenes who genuinely don’t care about you as a human nor a consumer of their product, who genuinely don’t care about their own ratings, who only want to push what they want to see as a reflection of themselves instead of the public, even if it’s killing their own show while also treating their own audience horribly online and being unable to handle feedback in a mature and respectful manner. 

I’m just honestly not sure why anyone would keep watching a show that has people who work on it telling you to your faces that you don’t matter, supporting and liking the tweets of people who call all of you “r*tards” and “delusional”. Blocking your totally valid feedback and using you for your views via blatant queerbait while spitting in your face online.

You deserve better. I’m sorry.

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

captaincartervalues:

  1. Funny they mention what fans were actually excited about in the finale (aka Lena and Kara reconciliation) right before writing an article about what no one is excited about
  2. Almost none of the fans want to keep an eye out for William and Kara together.
  3. Him wanting to call Kara to check on her is not putting his life on the line to save her. Lena standing between Kara and Andrea with a kryptonite dagger to her throat is putting your life on the line to save her.
  4. William is not a slow burn romance. He’s barely shared significant scenes with Kara and they went on one date after Kara felt guilty and had to be talked into it by her friends and sister, which has had zero follow up or recognition. They haven’t kissed or displayed any physical affection and Kara hasn’t even actually expressed genuine interest in him. They’re literally nothing.
  5. Lena is the epic slow burn romance that has been building since season 2 with both women sharing an actual and deep connection and affection for each other and they have consistently put their lives on the line to save each other above all else countless times. The show has established Lena and Kara as soulmates so many times over, I’ve lost count. This is what flows narratively and what the people want to see.
  6. I do find it interesting Melissa says “the amount of possibilities” is exciting for Kara and not possibility, singular. Who exactly is supposed to be the other possibility for a love interest because we haven’t been shown anyone else interested in or vying for Kara’s attention this season…except Lena.
  7. Also what complications? Her realizing she doesn’t like him and has actually been in love with her best friend for years? Yeah that would make their relationship complicated…until it ended so she could be with Lena instead.

This article infuriates me, but I hope the responses to it are yet another sign for someone on the Supergirl team to wake the fuck up, step up, and do what the fans want and what is necessary to save the show: make supercorp canon you cowards!

wlwshipper:

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I hate everything about this article even if we can only take it with a grain of salt right now. Lena and Kara have been interacting like that since season 2 but suddenly with William it’s a “slow burn” (even if merely for this article). At least Melissa’s acting choices with Staz vs. Katie tells us pretty much everything we need to know on where she stands as far as shipping goes.

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

shipperflungoutofspace:

wlwshipper:

Of course he would retweet it 🤦🏻‍♀️ He’s also blocking fans again for politely stating why they disagree with it.

wlwshipper:

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I hate everything about this article even if we can only take it with a grain of salt right now. Lena and Kara have been interacting like that since season 2 but suddenly with William it’s a “slow burn” (even if merely for this article). At least Melissa’s acting choices with Staz vs. Katie tells us pretty much everything we need to know on where she stands as far as shipping goes.

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

wlwshipper:

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I hate everything about this article even if we can only take it with a grain of salt right now. Lena and Kara have been interacting like that since season 2 but suddenly with William it’s a “slow burn” (even if merely for this article). At least Melissa’s acting choices with Staz vs. Katie tells us pretty much everything we need to know on where she stands as far as shipping goes.

Of course he would retweet it 🤦🏻‍♀️ He’s also blocking fans again for politely stating why they disagree with it.

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wlwshipper·a day agoText

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I hate everything about this article even if we can only take it with a grain of salt right now. Lena and Kara have been interacting like that since season 2 but suddenly with William it’s a “slow burn” (even if merely for this article). At least Melissa’s acting choices with Staz vs. Katie tells us pretty much everything we need to know on where she stands as far as shipping goes.

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wlwshipper·2 days agoText

leighlew3:

Warner Channel Latin America making a scissor pun while asking if their Supercorp dream will come true is something I didn’t realize I needed in my life. The normal phrasing is cutting the air/tension with a KNIFE. But on the graphic, they said SCISSORS. THEY SAID SCISSORS

While pushing for Kara/Lena, a wlw ship.

My mouth. Has dropped. They truly give zero f*cks anymore. 

Seriously though, when your international distributor is even rooting and asking for it (along with Showcase Canada and Warner Asia)… along with majority of your U.S. audience. And the media. And even some in the cast. WTF?

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wlwshipper·2 days agoText

leighlew3:

Whatever they choose to do on the show from here on out, I think three of the biggest things we learned in Season 5 are important to keep in mind: 

1. It’s on tape during Crisis that when Clark was upset and talking about how he thought he could give up the cape and just be himself with Lois and “have everything [he] ever wanted” they focused the camera in on Kara looking forlorn, clearly implying she was thinking about the same thing, which she then confirmed after he said he felt guilty for thinking he could have so much, or that anyone could, and she said, and I quote, “I get it. I’ve been thinking that a lot too lately.” and started talking about her mistakes. Keep in mind, at this point, she had no other love interest. She had no other conflict or guilt over any mistakes with anyone going on… except what was happening with Lena, whom one episode prior she was tearfully sulking over a photo with. Lena, whom she told very clearly in 5x01 that she thought she could “just be Kara” with and “get to keep [her]”.

2. They dedicated the culmination of the entire series, the celebratory 100th episode to Kara/Lena. Not Kara/Alex. Not Kara/Mon-El. Not Kara and her friends. Not Kara and her time on Krypton or family. Kara and Lena. Their story of how they’re connected in each and any universe or timeline and how the world is crap if they’re not together. And in these AUs, she was not with Mon-El and he didn’t even exist in the timeline where Kara and Lena were ‘partners’. Nor did William exist at all in any of those timelines. Nor did James for that matter. Kara was not with anybody else nor interested in anyone else, and Lena was not with anybody else either. It was all about the two of them.

3. In that 100th we saw that Kara was willing to throw it all out the window, risk everybody else’s life to expose her secret JUST to save Lena. Keeping that in mind, Winn made it clear that in the future, people know Kara is Supergirl. The implication that, at some point, Kara must reveal herself to the world… is huge. Because WHY would she do that? We’ve seen she wouldn’t do that. Heck, they even wiped Alex’s mind just to avoid Kara having to reveal her secret. They’ve made it clear that there is only one exception for which Kara would expose her secret to the world: to save/protect Lena. 

No matter what happens from here, no matter how much they tried the “no homo” with William in Season 5 or plan to again in Season 6, no matter them bringing back Mon-El briefly or Jack for a cameo or whatever else. They did FAR more to establish Kara and Lena as the show’s true soulmates and ultimate love story than any other pairing in the history of the show, using every Super/Lover trope and romantic storytelling cliche in the world. Not to mention more Clois and other couple parallels and romantic shot framing and passionate conflict galore and rainbow socks and romantic music, etc etc. 

So whether you keep watching this mess, or you give up now or already walked away. Whether they suddenly try to make someone else Kara or Lena’s “endgames” – they’ve made it clear the two of them are soulmates, and they’ve strongly indicated the two will wind up side-by-side in the future. No matter what else ever happens on the show past or future, they’ve made it crystal clear that Supercorp really truly is endgame in the bigger picture of this universe. And they can’t undo that. And fans aren’t at all ‘delusional’ for accepting what was directly and blatantly given and shown. 😉

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wlwshipper·2 days agoText

leighlew3:

Sometimes I wonder if they even realize that by deciding to be somewhat inconsistent and fully blame Kara not telling Lena on her wanting to protect her (rather than being terrified to lose her as stated in 5x01 since they probably worried about how romantic that sounded) – 

All it did was have the opposite effect and sound just as romantic.

Her waiting THAT long to tell Lena, and only Lena, supposedly just to protect her? All that says then, with 100% authority, is that she cares more about Lena than anybody (along with Alex whose memory they swiped to protect her). 

Kara told Winn, James already knew but she didn’t push him away to protect him, she told Lucy, she knew Cat knew but didn’t quit and get far away from her, she told Nia, etc. Hell, they even toyed with the idea of Kara telling William and they probably would’ve had her do it if not for the backlash. She tells people who are far less resourceful and less able to protect themselves than Lena (given her wealth, security and tech galore). Yet she didn’t tell Lena. For years and years. 

Come on. The implications of that, and of what that means Lena means to Kara, beyond any other friend is… huge. 

So if they thought that removing the “I was selfishly terrified to lose you” angle removed some of the romantic implications, the choice they went with was just as romantic and if anything just moved Lena to the top of who the most important person in Kara’s life is, right alongside Alex. Which we already knew after the 100th, but still. 

And they even cemented it by having the Alex and Lena jinx moment in the finale. 

Sigh.

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wlwshipper·3 days agoText

leighlew3:

sapphic-luthor:

updated the chart of supergirl’s imdb ratings now that the season is over and like i know we been knew but how is nobody else taking note of the fact that the two highest rated episodes (excluding the crossover) from s5 are the ones that push kara and lena back toward each other

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wlwshipper·3 days agoAnswer

Shouldn't the TPTB be jumping all in on SC just so they can claim responsibility for it? They would get all the credit once it blows up and goes viral and becomes a huge deal on every social media platform. They could say it was their idea all along and blah blah blah. (We would know the truth) but the general public and media would give them all the praise. After the shitshow that was season 5, it's the quickest and easiest way to dig themselves out of the hole they're in.

You’d think. 

Ya know, I could absolutely see years down the line, someone coming out and saying, “Look. We were forbidden by ______ to let Kara be with a woman or to pursue Supercorp romantically. But we did all we could to give the audience that story on the downlow via subtext and Clark/Lois parallels and all of that. We went as far as we could without getting in trouble. Unfortunately, people took that as queerbait, but it was really just us trying to show fans love in that way, and it’s unfortunate it lead to so many people feeling hurt or disappointed.”

Maybe this is all they CAN ever do. Maybe they think this is the right thing and they love Supercorp too, and they’re doing as much as they can, and that’s why the actresses play it up and why wardrobe makes the choices they do and why they’ve recreated so many Clark/Lois scenes and all of that, from Day 1 with Lena. But in that case, who said they HAVE to have William? And if someone said they HAD to have William, then who said he HAD to start off as a jerk? 

And even if the above was true, then they should’ve had the awareness to realize that it would be taken as queerbait and look really bad, and pulled back quickly (like after S2) and stopped and said “We can’t do this to the fans. Let’s just have Kara state in an episode that she’s straight when someone asks, and let’s stop the parallels and just tell people they’re only friends and only ever will be.”

Instead, as the fans have become more and more outraged over the queerbaiting and begged more for the ship to be canon and the media calls it out, etc – they’ve doubled down on the romantic tropes and coding, in fact doing it more than ever in 5A. The first time ever they seemed to pull back was in 5B, but then they had that insane soulmate AU situation as their 100th celebratory episode. And continued to dress Kara and Lena in red/blue. And continued to dress Lena like Lois. And continued to let the actresses play the vibes the way they’re playing it. It’s all just so confusing. One second they bait it, the next they bring in a no homo. Then they bait some more and smile and dance around questions about it, then they go overboard saying “friendship” as if to try to say it’s nothing more but without ACTUALLY saying it. Then they bait again. And so on and so forth now for 3-4 YEARS.

It’s insane and it’s not cool, and it’s no wonder fans are literally feeling like they’re starting to lose it. It’s like the ultimate gaslight, queerbait, and emotional manipulation all rolled into one. It’s nuts.

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viilanelle:

Oh, Eve. Do you ever think of anything else?

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