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[antianakin]

In addition to the The Wrong Jedi arc, I also hated the Bio Chip arc, not just because of what happened to Fives, but also because they unfairly framed in the Jedi in yet another morally compromising situation and I hate that.

I assume you're referring to the Jedi discovering that a chip exists but accepting the "anti-aggression" explanation without fighting it or trying to argue that the chip should be removed.

It's honestly no worse than the implications that already existed about the dynamic between the Jedi and the clones for the five seasons prior to this and even arguably ever since AOTC came out. It's not exactly making the situation seem any worse, especially for people willing to look at it in bad faith.

They have a clone character explicitly call the Jedi slavers in season 1, and just by making the clones more independent and individual, it creates a stickier moral situation than already existed in AOTC.

And given the weird moral stickiness that exists with the droids, it couldn't have been fixed by giving the Jedi a droid army because people would STILL claim the army was made up of slaves and the Jedi were awful slavers for fighting in it.

So, sure, the Fives arc has the Jedi forced to ignore the existence of the chip so far as we know, but is it truly any worse than Slick calling them slavers five seasons earlier? Is it worse than five seasons of the clones existing within a morally sticky situation that the Jedi can't properly address?

The reason the Wrong Jedi arc sticks out to me is because the Jedi are PERSONALLY called out and made responsible for what happened to Ahsoka. Ahsoka explicitly says she doesn't trust the Jedi or the Council and then it's the Council who has to make a judgment call in the end. By contrast, Fives spends the entire arc desperately trying to seek out a Jedi he can tell this information to (starting with Shaak Ti and then turning to Anakin later) and he explicitly refers to the Jedi as his "best friends" later in the arc. And while Ahsoka claims that Anakin is the only person she trusts, it's also Anakin who refuses to listen to Fives and dismisses his accusations against Palpatine.

So while the Jedi do end up never addressing the chip situation again, the arc on the arc on the whole is actually immensely positive towards the Jedi and DOES represent them very positively and intentionally calls out ANAKIN as the untrustworthy one (Shaak Ti ends up listening to Fives and trying multiple times to get the situation examined further).

The Wrong Jedi arc is 10x worse than the Fives arc is from my perspective. The Fives arc doesn't intentionally introduce any criticism towards the Jedi that wasn't already generated by AOTC anyway and it works really hard to make the Jedi look GOOD in a way the Wrong Jedi arc really does not.

#star wars #jedi #pro jedi #arc trooper fives #clone trooper fives #fives

[antianakin]

#poll #polls

[antianakin]

If you could direct/produce a Star Wars Show or Movie what would you do?

This is VERY broad.

I guess number one would be some kind of Jedi slice of life story that's aimed at an older audience than preschoolers or something of that ilk. Following an original cast of Jedi characters as they go on adventures and just... be Jedi and help the galaxy kind of thing. I just want a story where the Jedi aren't all dying or dead or being treated like second class citizens who have to be fixed.

Number two would be a show that actually looks at the clones in some way and focuses on them in a way that neither TCW nor TBB managed to do. A story focused on the clone rebellion post Order 66 would be pretty cool, following Rex, Gregor, and Wolffe through to how they end up on Seelos and attempting to retire from fighting. It may not be a particularly HAPPY story all the way through, but it could allow for a lot more exploration of their characters and culture in a way the other shows haven't allowed due to focus on characters with very minimal connection to the clones themselves. I'd love to do something with clones in live action that gave Temuera Morrison the chance to go full Orphan Black and prove just how incredible of an actor he is.

But honestly, I think the most creative Star Wars project has already been done and it's Visions, so everyone should just go watch that (or rewatch it if you've already seen it).

#star wars #jedi #clone troopers

[antianakin]

I watched that scene in V for Vendetta when V kills Delia, and it occurred to me that there isn't quite the same scene throughout TBB S3. Despite the heavy redemption themes for Crosshair and Emerie, I don't think I heard either of them directly acknowledge their wrongs and apologise to their (live) victims. I didn't hear Crosshair admit fault for shooting Wrecker on Kamino, trying to incinerate the squad on Bracca, or kidnapping Hunter and using him as bait. Never mind to Howzer for his squad's arrest and death in captivity, or the people of Ryloth for his assassination of Orn Free Taa. Or to the next of kin of at least two women I remembered he killed during his Imperial service.

I never heard Emerie apologise for using the kids and clones as pincushions to draw blood, abducting and imprisoning them. Has everyone forgotten that she was there regularly while Crosshair was strapped to the bed and being experimented on?

The point is that while both characters did heel-face turns and performed deeds to atone for their pasts, the lack of apology is deafening. Howzer was portrayed as the asshole for not seeing Crosshair's heel-face turn because it should have been ''obvious'' how Crosshair treats Omega. I see it as the characters who should have broken the fourth wall and read the script to bypass the drama that would have occurred if an apology had been forthcoming. The "hard" part was done; Crosshair lost his hand; what more do you idiots want? I would have chalked it to the cancellation had I not seen something similar running around Season 1...

It's one of those aspects that gnaws at me with Disney Star Wars. What I call the externalisation of evil, paired with the lack of accountability. Evil happens because people were forced or duped to act on its behalf, but because these people are not "true" believers (as seen by their redemption), they need not be held accountable for their actions while serving evil. Their acts in service of the "superior good" balance the scales and bypass the need for accountability.

And for a "kids" show lauded as the most "adult" of the TCW-era animation, I have to ask, is this really the lesson to teach kids? Because in real life, no one can read your mind and hear your apology mentally. And some can fake it and be unrepentant in the end. The victims of your wrongdoing have the right to confront you, hear your apology, and decide to absolve or condemn you. "I am not here for what you hoped to do. I am here for what you did"- V

"Is it meaningless to apologise? Never I'm so sorry" - Delia's last words to V

I find myself less upset about Emerie because Emerie was introduced so late that not only do we not see her doing anything THAT horrific, but there wouldn't have been a lot of time to really work through any kind of redemption arc for her. Within her first few episodes, we do see her soften towards Omega a bit, so they DO set up that Emerie isn't all she appears to be which allows for her to have stronger reactions to things like the Force sensitive children in the vault later.

My issue with Emerie, which is likely partially due to the cancellation cutting off some of what they might have planned to do with her, is that we have ZERO EXPLANATION for her. Why does she exist, was she just a defective clone who came out female and so the Kaminoans sent her away or did one of them intentionally try to create a female clone for some reason? Why did they send her to Hemlock, how was Hemlock connected with the Kaminoans to begin with and connected SO early that he was able to acquire a clone before the Jedi and the Republic even knew they existed? Why did Hemlock accept her and what has he been doing TO her this whole time? What is her relationship with being a clone if she was presumably separated from the rest of them for her entire life and not necessarily raised as a clone the same way as even TBB would've been? How does this impact her relationship with the clone prisoners on Tantiss as well as Hemlock?

Her redemption arc feels both half-assed and like... just half-assed enough because Emerie is basically a blank slate the whole time. We don't know anything about her or her motivations for anything and so there's nothing to really make me feel like her quicker change of heart goes against anything we know about her. She's never shown to be particularly unkind or malicious, just... somewhat disconnected from the clone prisoners and inclined to just accept that Hemlock's work is necessary. Because we know so little about her aside from that she's been with Hemlock since she was extremely young, it works for me that she's mostly just kind-of disconnected about the things he's doing to the other clones until she manages to make a personal connection that sort-of changes her perspective. She does not personally capture or hurt anyone to my memory, she never seems to be intentionally trying to cause pain to anybody, there's no malicious intent behind her actions that she has to work around and make up for. There's not even any real prejudice and anger towards the clones themselves that is causing her to be okay with what Hemlock is doing to them. So just her recognizing that a change NEEDS to be made is enough for me with Emerie, I don't feel like I needed more of an apology in order for her "redemption arc" to make sense because she's barely a fleshed out character as it is.

Crosshair on the other hand, DID owe an apology to a lot of people. I HATE the way they handled his interactions with the rest of the squad and with Howzer in particular. I HATE the way HOWZER has to apologize and Crosshair never does. It's fucked up and wrong and such a badly done redemption arc and I honestly can't even blame that on the cancellation because it's early enough in the season that they likely already had that built in before they had to make any changes. There's also already been TWO SEASONS before this to build up to Crosshair's change of heart that I think got mishandled as well. He got so little screen time in season two that his change of heart that turns him against the Empire doesn't feel believable to me at all.

My biggest issue with BOTH of these characters and the way their stories were handled was the distance from the ACTUAL CLONES.

This is an issue I've had with the show from the beginning. It's billed as a show about clones, but the main characters are SO separated and distant from the real clones that none of their development really has anything to do with the clones and it makes it feel like it never really WAS a clone story at all. Crosshair's story would've been more compelling if it had been about his bigotry towards the clones and his development had come specifically from learning they were good people and he was wrong about them. Emerie and Omega's stories should've been about them finally being able to connect to the other clones that they'd been forced away from their whole lives and figuring out what it truly means to BE a clone. The Bad Batch's story would've been more compelling if it had had more focus on what was actually happening to the clones immediately after Order 66 and the desperation and tragedy of trying to save them in a world that cares about them even less than it used to.

Instead, Crosshair's story seems to be about realizing the Empire sees him, PERSONALLY, as expendable and THAT'S what makes him realize it's bad. The fact that the Empire sees him as no different than the other clones doesn't really allow him to see the CLONES in a different light or connect to them better, it just destroys his loyalty to the Empire because he's not considered special anymore. Emerie only turns against the Empire after she sees what's happening with the Force sensitive children, the torture and captivity of the clones doesn't seem to bother her at all. Omega's development for the last two seasons has had nothing to do with her identity as a clone and a lot more with her identity as a "soldier". Echo is the only character with any real connection to the other clones and the moment he starts to voice that, he gets written off and becomes a recurring cameo character instead of a regular main ensemble member. The moment he decides to more fully be a part of a clone-centric storyline, he can't be a part of the Bad Batch's story because the Bad Batch is inherently NOT A CLONE STORY.

And this is the biggest problem with this show. It's selling itself as a clone story and not actually following through on it and it causes this weird dissonance within the narrative because I don't think this show ever truly knew what story it was telling. It hurts every single one of the characters.

This show would've been a LOT better if they had just let it be a story about, say, four random bounty hunters who worked as a team. Or even, god help me, four Mandalorians from different clans or houses or whatever who are BARELY managing to stay civil with each other. It would've made the stories with Crosshair and Emerie feel a LOT easier to stomach because we aren't sitting there wondering why they aren't reacting to what's happening to the other clones around them. It might've made the stories easier to WRITE, too, because they wouldn't have had to keep trying to force a connection between these characters and the clones that so clearly just isn't there.

Maybe these "redemption arcs" would've been better done and made more sense if these characters weren't clones.

But then again I remember how well done Ventress and Kallus's "redemption arcs" were and I think that maybe it wouldn't have mattered at all.

#star wars #clone troopers #anti tbb #tbb critical #crosshair critical #anti crosshair #emerie critical #anti emerie

[antianakin]

Hey what’s your opinion on Jedi x Clone ships?

Given that I've got an entire fic rec list for Codywan fics that still gets passed around every so often, it can't come as a surprise that I like Jedi x Clone ships.

I know why people dislike them, I understand that the inherent power imbalance (especially if the story is set during the Clone Wars and not post war either canon compliant or fix-it AU) is a sticking point for certain people and that's fine. I just don't share that discomfort.

I love the inherent tragedy of the relationship between the Jedi and the clones. I love the way they are each other's saviors and each other's inevitable doom. I love the ways they come to rely on each other and trust each other in ways they can't with anybody else. I love the ways that they end up so similar in their values despite how differently they were raised and taught. I love the way those values bring them together and create a stronger bond than any of them probably anticipated. I love the angst that comes with the post-Order 66 scenarios where they have to figure out how to deal with all of the feelings of betrayal and guilt on both sides. I love how that history both hurts and heals sometimes.

My love for the more general Jedi and clone relationships allows me to find the romantic Jedi x clone ships really compelling because it takes all of those elements I love and adds in a different intimate perspective to have to view it all through. How does the addition of a romance change that relationship? Does it help or hurt in the long run? Would it work if there wasn't a war keeping them connected already? Is there an expectation of something "more" later on or is it just two people trying to find comfort any way they can? How DO they deal with the problem of power in the relationship? How does this impact their relationships with other Jedi and clones?

Both groups sort-of view each other a little homogenously a first. The clones have no way of knowing the Jedi as individuals and are taught to just obey all Jedi equally regardless of who they are. The Jedi are introduced to the clones as a mass and only get to know them better after they have to take over leadership of them. The realization that the other group is, in fact, not quite what they might have thought is SUCH a cool thing to explore. The relationship building FROM that realization that actually these people are so much more like them than they thought and that similarity creating a connection just tugs at my heartstrings. I love the growth from the Jedi maybe seeing that the clones need more guidance, more teaching, to the clones finding their own footing and ending up more of an equal to the Jedi specifically BECAUSE of their relationship with the Jedi showing them they can be.

I just find it beautiful. There is beauty in tragedy, and the Jedi/clone dynamic, romantic or otherwise, is the perfect example of it to me.

#star wars #jedi #clone troopers #pro jedi

[antianakin]

If you were the one writing the sequel trilogy with complete creative freedom what would you do?

I answered a pretty similar question a few months back. You can see the most relevant snippet below.

I'd still set it 30 years post-ROTJ, I'd still bring in a new ensemble cast, but I'd focus on how the New Republic and Luke's Jedi were able to rebuild in that time and how they now have to withstand this new threat, whether it's something akin to the First Order or a completely new kind of enemy. It can be a STRUGGLE, they can have LOSSES, but I think eliminating the entire New Republic and Luke's Jedi in order to just focus on a new "resistance" makes no sense. I want to see this community LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES and actually figure out how to fight TOGETHER again, I want to see this world evolve from the one we already know so that they can face a similar enemy or an enemy of similar strength to the one faced in the PT and, this time, they will defeat it because the New Republic stood WITH the Jedi and didn't give in to selfishness and fear and corruption. I like the characters they introduced well enough, I think they're cool and interesting, and I really like the subverted expectations with characters like Finn and Kylo and how those were being set up in TFA, so I'd keep that, too, and maybe just adjust as needed for the slightly changed narrative.

I know Lucas intended to explore the Force on a sort-of micro level a little bit more in his version of the Sequel trilogy, too, and I kinda like that. I like learning more about how the Force works each time we go back into the world.

But narratively, the most important thing for me is to show this community face the same evil as the Prequels did and this time, they choose to stand firm and overcome it rather than succumb to it. I want to see what the last six films were all leading to, I want to see this world we're so invested in actually DEVELOP somewhere meaningful by the end of the story rather than just making the same mistakes all over again except rushed through to what a few people thought were the fun bits.

#star wars #star wars sequel trilogy #sequel trilogy #star wars sequels #jedi #new republic

[antianakin]

List in approximate chronological order:

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace (Episode I)

Star Wars: Attack of the Clones (Episode II)

Star Wars: The Clone Wars (movie)

Star Wars: The Clone Wars (series)

Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi

Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (Episode III)

Star Wars: Tales of the Empire

Star Wars: The Bad Batch

Solo: A Star Wars Story

Obi-Wan Kenobi

Andor

Star Wars Rebels

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Star Wars: A New Hope (Episode IV)

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (Episode V)

Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (Episode VI)

The Mandalorian

The Book of Boba Fett

Ahsoka

Star Wars Resistance

Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Episode VII)

Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Episode VIII)

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Episode IX)

For the shows, it can count if you've seen more than half of the seasons/episodes.

Visions and the LEGO shorts are not canon, though I may do a separate poll for LEGO because those are great 😆

#everything in full except resistance #for my sins i guess #poll #polls

[antianakin]

You know what really grinds me gears? This preconceived notion from the Star Wars fandom, specifically the EU/Legends fans, who claim, “The old Jedi Order were flawed, dogmatic and hypocritical and they deserved what they got” as well as “Luke Skywalker’s New Jedi Order is so much better because they allow attachments and marriages”. Even as an EU fan, I know this is total BS.

I mean, Luke's Jedi Order allowed marriages in the EU because it existed before the Prequel Trilogy made it clear that the Jedi don't get married and that's... really it. It wasn't a statement on how Luke's Jedi were better or an intentional choice to have Luke be different than other Jedi at the time, those writers just had no idea that Lucas's concept of the Jedi didn't include marriage.

And the lack of recognition about WHY Luke's Jedi Order included marriage in the EU is what grinds MY gears.

A lot of EU fans just seem overly attached to that version of the Jedi, that version of the Star Wars world, and can't really let go of it very well even years after the Prequels have come out and changed what was canon about the Jedi. So they just came up with an interpretation of the source material that bashes the Prequels Jedi and lifts up the EU Jedi.

#star wars #jedi #pro jedi

[antianakin]

Way too many people are responding to this post like "I don't think all of the Jedi were right about everything all of the time" and missing the ENTIRE POINT.

Broke: Individual Jedi were good people with good intentions, but the Jedi Order as an institution was flawed and needed to be reformed.

Woke: The Jedi Order as an institution is completely correct in all of its teachings about everything and following the Jedi's teachings about selflessness and compassion are what allow people of the galaxy to achieve balance and peace, but these teachings are an ideal to live up to and they assert that everyone has the capacity for darkness within them anyway, so sometimes individual Jedi will make mistakes or struggle with fear and pain and selfishness as they strive towards being their best selves the way their culture trains them to do.

#literally at no point did i say that the actual members of the order were 100% correct all of the time #i said the jedi's TEACHINGS are 100% correct all of the time #all that shit about mindfulness and selflessness and compassion and non attachment #THAT'S what i'm saying was always correct and always will be #it's literally the core message of the entire skywalker saga #be mindful so you can remain selfless and compassionate towards others instead of selfish and greedy due to ignorance #that's it #the individual people are fallible and make mistakes #yes #THAT'S LITERALLY WRITTEN IN THE POST #“sometimes individual jedi makes mistakes or struggle as they strive towards being their best selves” #it's right there #please read the post and stop leaving notes on this like 'AKSHUALLY the jedi weren't 100% right all of the time because no one's perfect' #it's super annoying

[antianakin]

Just saw someone say "Anakin couldn't have been complicit with the enslavement of the clones if he didn't know it was happening" girl they were shooting children

#anakin #rex #tup #fives #clones

[antianakin]

So, for people who don't have basic reading skills, when I say Ahsoka is entirely irrelevant to Anakin's story, this does not mean that I think Ahsoka is a bad character, that I think Ahsoka should never have existed, that Ahsoka is uninteresting, or that I don't think Ahsoka can be important to fans who enjoyed her. When I say Ahsoka is irrelevant to Anakin's story, it really does truly mean JUST THAT.

Anakin's motivations for everything that he does already existed prior to Ahsoka. They're built into his story long before she ever even existed. The message of his story existed before Ahsoka was even a glimmer in Filoni's eye. So nothing about Anakin's story truly changes in any meaningful way because of Ahsoka's inclusion in it. He still falls because of his attachments, because of his fear, because he cannot live without Padme and is traumatized by the loss of his mother. He chooses to come back because of his selfless love for his son, because he'd rather die than allow Luke to be killed. None of the most important choices in Anakin's story have anything at all to do with Ahsoka and, quite honestly, I feel like it takes away from the whole theme of his story to try to shoehorn Ahsoka into those choices.

The story existed before Ahsoka and it has not, does not, and never will need her in order to make sense or be compelling.

NONE OF WHICH means Ahsoka cannot be significant IN HER OWN RIGHT. Ahsoka was the first female character to truly be the main character of a high canon Star Wars story (if we consider her the main character of TCW, which you can make a solid argument for). Ahsoka was the first female Jedi character to even be allowed to speak in a high canon Star Wars story let alone be the main character of that story. And that's significant, obviously. It was a major milestone in Star Wars and it meant a lot to a lot of fans growing up, especially young girls.

I have never and will never dispute what Ahsoka meant to the franchise and to the fandom.

She's still totally irrelevant to Anakin's story. The two things are not mutually exclusive. They can both be true at once.

And honestly, I think Ahsoka would be doing a lot BETTER as a character if people were able to recognize that more. Ahsoka IS NOT RELEVANT to Anakin's story. Anakin is relevant to HER story, but she truly is not that relevant to his in return. Ahsoka cannot remain anchored to Anakin forever, it's quite literally dragging her down. Trying to make her more significant to the Skywalker Saga is making it impossible for Ahsoka to be significant in her own right, separate from her relationship to Anakin.

So I'm going to keep saying that Ahsoka is irrelevant to the Skywalker Saga, to Anakin's story, because it's true and I find it a really important part of any discussion about Ahsoka as a character and her place within the narrative and the franchise.

#star wars #ahsoka tano #anakin skywalker #fandom wank #fandom discourse

[antianakin]

I want to free Cody from the oppression of having his entire existence be defined by Obi-Wan and the various ways he can serve him

#cody

[antianakin]

Man, I need to find more of those Ahsoka fans you've encountered who blame all of Ahsoka's flaws on Anakin lol. I don't know that I've ever met someone who thought she was a better Jedi than anybody else and ALSO thought Anakin was a terrible Master to her who caused all of her flaws. If they believe she's "what the Jedi should be" it seems to just go hand-in-hand with believing the Jedi are bastards who betrayed and abused Anakin, too, and Anakin's mentorship is what saved Ahsoka (from the Jedi, from Order 66, from the Empire, etc).

Me: Ahsoka got brought in so late to Anakin's story that she ends up pretty irrelevant to his development because it was already written in its entirety without her inclusion. Anakin's motivations for falling and for coming back can't have anything to do with Ahsoka because they were never about her to begin with. She got shoehorned into Anakin's story without any real consideration for what this might mean for her character in the long term.

Ahsoka fans: HOW DARE YOU SAY FANS CAN'T LIKE AHSOKA

Me: I literally never said that.

Ahsoka fans: AHSOKA IS THE MOST MEANINGFUL CHARACTER IN ALL OF STAR WARS, SHE SAVED MY LIFE WHEN I WAS A CHILD

Me: Okay? Glad she means a lot to you, but that has nothing to do with my analysis of Ahsoka's place within the overall narrative and Anakin's story specifically.

Ahsoka fans: SO YOU JUST DON'T RESPECT ARTISTS AT ALL AND THINK THEY SHOULD ALL DIE EVEN THO THEY ARE BEING SO GENEROUS BY GIVING YOU MORE CONTENT TO CONSUME

Me: I respect artists just fine, but I reserve the right to have an opinion on the art even if it's negative or critical, as well as the right to express that opinion.

Ahsoka fans: I GUESS YOU'RE INCAPABLE OF HAVING A MATURE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS THEN

#ahsoka critical #ahsoka tano critical #anakin critical #anakin skywalker critical #fandom wank #fandom discourse

[antianakin]

Me: Ahsoka got brought in so late to Anakin's story that she ends up pretty irrelevant to his development because it was already written in its entirety without her inclusion. Anakin's motivations for falling and for coming back can't have anything to do with Ahsoka because they were never about her to begin with. She got shoehorned into Anakin's story without any real consideration for what this might mean for her character in the long term.

Ahsoka fans: HOW DARE YOU SAY FANS CAN'T LIKE AHSOKA

Me: I literally never said that.

Ahsoka fans: AHSOKA IS THE MOST MEANINGFUL CHARACTER IN ALL OF STAR WARS, SHE SAVED MY LIFE WHEN I WAS A CHILD

Me: Okay? Glad she means a lot to you, but that has nothing to do with my analysis of Ahsoka's place within the overall narrative and Anakin's story specifically.

Ahsoka fans: SO YOU JUST DON'T RESPECT ARTISTS AT ALL AND THINK THEY SHOULD ALL DIE EVEN THO THEY ARE BEING SO GENEROUS BY GIVING YOU MORE CONTENT TO CONSUME

Me: I respect artists just fine, but I reserve the right to have an opinion on the art even if it's negative or critical, as well as the right to express that opinion.

Ahsoka fans: I GUESS YOU'RE INCAPABLE OF HAVING A MATURE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS THEN

#star wars #ahsoka tano critical #ahsoka critical #anti ahsoka #anti ahsoka tano #fandom wank #fandom discourse

[antianakin]

A Visions Volume 1 Episode Guide

The Duel - If you're in it for the visuals and the really cool unique animation, this is the episode for you. It's absolutely beautiful, but the story's fairly minimal.

Tatooine Rhapsody - If you're looking for a well-written canon compliant story and some good music, this is the episode for you. I also really love that it includes the one Hutt character I've ever seen that's a genuinely good person.

The Twins - If you're a big Luke and Leia fan and don't feel like canon ever did enough with the whole powerful Force sensitive twins thing, this is the episode for you! It's basically a "what if Luke and Leia were created by the Sith using Dark magic to become a living super weapon" AU.

The Village Bride - This is another one if you're looking for a well-written canon compliant story, especially focusing on a Jedi reclaiming that identity post Order 66.

The Ninth Jedi - If you feel like canon has never quite done enough with lightsaber lore, this one might be for you! The story's pretty compelling, but what made this one interesting for me was the way they used the lightsabers as a tool for the narrative.

T0-B1 - If you're big into droid rights in Star Wars, this is probably the one for you. It's an absolutely adorable little story of a droid that wants to be a Jedi and has to learn what that really means.

The Elder - If Master/Padawan dynamics are your thing, this episode has a really wonderful duo that makes the whole story pop. I really like the message behind this one, too.

Lop and Ocho - If you're in it for some fun family drama, this one might be for you! This one's also for the furries, ngl, but it's genuinely pretty well-written.

Akakiri - If you like the complexity of Anakin being a villain who did awful things and made awful choices even if they were sympathetic, this might be the one for you. The story hits a lot of the same notes as Anakin's but in a fraction of the time.

#star wars #star wars visions #visions #jedi #pro jedi

[antianakin]

If I never hear the phrase “B-but the Jedi were flawed” ever again, I would cherish every day of rest of my life and view it as a sign that humanity is healing.

What annoys me is that it's either brought up whenever you talk about the Jedi at all or when you talk about how terrible Order 66 is.

If it were really just about someone thinking the Jedi were flawed they wouldn't obsessively use said "flaws" (I've yet to see a true dogmatic flaw in the Jedi Order) to suggest they had their slaughter coming.

Which is especially funny because like with the Ahsoka show people can look at Anakin Skywalker (who's a character I like, he's interesting) who committed nearly evil deed it's possible to commit but manage to see his humanity. Only to turn around and dunk on the Jedi for the tiniest of things.

#jedi #pro jedi #anti ahsoka show #ahsoka show critical

[antianakin]

Who’s your favorite Jedi? Clone? Rebel?

I mean, the honest answer for who my favorite Jedi (and I guess this answer works for favorite Rebel too) is Obi-Wan. I loved him as a kid and that nostalgia holds through as an adult. He's funny, he's charismatic, his fight scenes when played by Ewan McGregor are compelling and exciting, and I just think he's neat.

Some runner ups would probably be Kanan Jarrus and Agen Kolar, though. I have a lot of feelings about Kanan and his journey in Rebels. I also was developing a minor soft spot for Bell Zettifar in the High Republic series when I was reading some of the adult novels; it's hard not to root for this poor kid who just never gets a damn break.

My real favorite rebel is probably be Bail Organa, Father of the Rebellion, winner of Best Father of the Century AT LEAST. I adore him a lot.

Runner ups for favorite rebel would probably be Hera and Sabine, but with the caveat that that doesn't count their Ahsoka show versions, obviously. I like the nuance of Hera's relationship with the rebellion and how invested she is in it and how much she's willing to give up for this cause she believes in so wholeheartedly, but also how being a rebel gives her the ability to be a pilot in the way she's always wanted to be and maybe couldn't have had any other way. And I do like the way Sabine sort-of grows into her identity as a rebel in some ways and the way that she starts off as a rebel primarily because it allows her to hit back at people who hurt her and is an outlet for her pain and anger and fear, but then she faces a lot of her fears and her history and her concept of being a rebel starts being less about violence and more about mercy and I really love that.

For favorite clone, I love some of the more obvious answers like Cody and Rex and Fives, but I think the most HONEST answer to this question is probably Dogma. I wish we had a less ambiguous answer as to what happened to him after Umbara, I wish there was a story to follow about who he became after Umbara (if he lived) and how that impacted his view of the Jedi, the Republic, and the clones. I appreciated the nuance of his character, too. He's been raised to view the Jedi as basically omniscient, almost gods, which is where his loyalty to them comes from, which goes along with the idea that he as a clone does not have the right to question them, but it doesn't mean he doesn't care about the other clones and he struggles a lot with having to find that line between loyalty to the Jedi and the affection he does have for his brothers. It's a balance I'm not entirely certain he has even figured out by the end of the Umbara arc, since Krell is ultimately revealed to be a full traitor rather than just kind-of an asshole. Dogma isn't necessarily that affectionate of a person and the care he definitely does have for the other clones kind-of hides underneath a brusque personality and I find that interesting, too, and would've loved to see more of Dogma when they weren't on a mission.

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