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To be honest, this is more of me being a musical theatre nerd and kid throughout most of my life. But something I want to say is that Hazbin Hotel was half of the musical Vivziepop and her stans want you to believe, then the show to me wasted the perfect opportunity for a opening number. The worst part to me is that Vivziepop also had the perfect (or atleast really great) reference to do it.

Like, imagine after Charlie tells the story of Adam and Lilith, how Lucifer fell (basically the whole beginning storybook narration.) We cut to a shot where the exorcists are flying away from Hell after another extermination and it pans down to the Pride Ring, which is very much destroyed with some buildings even in flames. Then a different opening number song could start playing as we’re introduced to the Pride Ring and its inhabitants.

If this opening sounds somewhat familiar, then you’ll likely know what the reference I’m talking about is. It’s The Nightmare Before Christmas’s This is Halloween

To people who haven’t seen the film, I’ll give a short rundown on its opening number. Before TNBC opening number begins, we are shown a scene of the different holiday doors before the shot pans into the Halloween door. Cue the opening number, and we are introduced to the background Halloween Town residents and some important characters (Sally, Oogie Boogie, etc)

If Hazbin Hotel took a similar approach to its opening number, it would honestly help most of the problems. We would be introduced to Hell (or at least the Pride Ring) smoothly, side characters who would have major roles later would already be shown to us, we would get a better look at exterminations, essentially most of the character problems would’ve been fixed (or at least toned down)

Also, while I don’t really care about any of the songs, they aren’t exactly the type of musical songs I like/aren’t memorable to me personally. I personally hate how they come out of nowhere. In the first episode, there is literally no transition to Charlie’s song in the slightest. No instrumental build up, nothing. Because no, characters in musicals don’t start singing out of nowhere.

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I made a DigitalFilm doodle dump, these two are my sillies

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Alastor is such a Gary stu that wants everybody to know that he's "sCaRy" because he can have black eyes and red pupils, turn big, and shoot out tentacles. Like bro. That's not creepy. And most of his lines fucking suck. How does he know about modern slang? Didn't this guy die during the great fucking depression? Not to mention, this guy swears a whole lot. It would've been perfect if the only time he ever swore was when his staff got broken apart. That would've really shocked the audience. I wouldn't mind him saying "fuck" a few times, but when that shit becomes a common thing, that's a problem. Swearing wasn't common in the 1900's. So why is Alastor using it on a daily basis. He no longer stands out from the cast. He's just another edge lord. He says the most corniest lines too like omg everytime he says ONE embarrassing word, I have to pause from watching the show bc the guy gives me second hand embarrassment. He's trying so hard to be terrifying that it's not working. For some reason, Alastor just wants power.... I'm not sure if it was planned from the start, but the execution is dog shit in my opinion. Pilot Alastor was done better than this. The reason why pilot Alastor was so creepy and overall an amazing character, at least in my opinion, was because you didn't really know exactly how he was feeling, or what was going on inside his head. The whole point of him volunteering to 'help' Charlie run the hotel was that he could see sinners fail and give himself some entertainment. He even flat out admits it in the pilot. But then you just have that gut feeling that there's something more going on with Alastor. That he's probably planning something else than just finding entertainment. Let the 'him wanting power' be like a b plot if THAT was the case (explain why he even wants power too bc if he just WANTS it for the sake of it, then that's boring). And I think what was the most exciting thing about his character, was that he was mysterious. Notice how the only times he EVER used his power or lost his cool was when Angel Dust claimed that he could suck his dick, or when Sir Pentious interrupted his song and threatened to literally hurt him. I swear, this guy used his title as the radio demon for times when it was appropriate. That's what I loved about Pilot Al. He wasn't trying to be creepy unless it was needed. In this show, he desperately wants people to fear him. He even tries to pick a fight with everybody, even the ones who are kind to him. He's a complete asshole and a dickhead. And I'm just like "boo, fucking corny, bitch". Idk, man. It's pro just me. But I hate Alastor so goddamn fucking much. At least in the show. He gives me headaches, he's a Gary stu, and I can't believe this mf got away with talking trash to the KING OF HELL like holy SHIT. Why didn't his ass get humbled at the moment there? He just got freewill the whole time during season one without consequences. Besides Adam tearing his ass up.

Alastor is just so- ugh.

I beg for you guys to let me know if some of my points were invalid. I would actively listen to them. I was just in rage the whole entire time while writing this, so my mind was just clouded with 'wtf happened to the cool guy I once loved' and just...RAAAAAH. so please don't hesitate to speak out. I'm aware that not EVERYBODY will agree with what I say. But it's great to hear y'all's opinions about this. Thank you.

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I’ve made a thread for people wanting to give their unpopular opinions or criticisms on Hazbin Hotel. You can include Helluva Boss opinions too

Does anyone feel like starting an unpopular HH opinion thread here?

To start this off, I prefer Sir Pentious in the pilot over the show. Don’t get me wrong, I still love him and he’s one of the few characters I actually like in this show. It’s just Pentious in the pilot for me is way more enjoyable to me, plus I loved Stumper as him. Not to mention I liked his “Hammy, but dangerous and somewhat competent supervillain” personality in the pilot over the show’s “silly harmless goofball” personality

Also feel free to list your criticisms you have of the show if you do, just don’t harass anyone.

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Sir Pentious redesign I've made. I love him and I hate how Vivziepop treated him in the series.

Design notes under the cut + rewrite

I gave him a broader/sturdier figure to fit his inventor persona more, more info on this post made on my main blog @autumnteawithfriends

Changed his pink to red, I thought it would make him look more intimidating

Made his outfit more Victorian Age accurate

Added more eyes (explained in the lore segment)

Honestly, I didn't want to change much because Sir Pentious to me has one of the better designs to me despite the flaws.

Now time for some rewrite lore

His real name was Sir Arthur Price when alive

He was born on December 1st 1853 and died in 1890, making him 37.

Class 3 Sinner, his sins were Wrath, Envy, and Pride

Is an inventor/machinist who had plans on advancing machines in a way nobody would see coming when alive, he was actively and maliciously jealous of anyone he deemed a rival.

He was not very well liked when alive, not at all. which did not help with his ambitions with wanting to advance the field of machinery.

Arthur went bankrupt one day due to lacking the funds to maintain his machines, meaning he had to marry an aristocrat for money.

He married Marielle Farfalle (OC) on December 13, 1879. Their marriage was neutral at first until Mari discovered his villainy and was ecstatic to learn this. After that, they started to genuinely fall in love.

Arthur snapped the day he tried to launch his first invention to the public. He showcased it only for the public to be interested in his rivals inventions.

He plotted to kill his rivals along with the help of his wife, while they succeeded in doing so. Both of them were ratted out by a house servant who discovered their plans.

Died by electric chair alongside his wife on November 20th 1890

Has hypnosis powers and a deadly poisonous bite, the poison from his bite can immobilize sinners depending on how much poison comes out of his fangs (The poison can last from a day to a few weeks)

I made him a mix between his pilot and show counterparts - A hammy, but dangerous and somewhat competent supervillain sinner who can be caring and affectionate to his loved ones (Mari and the Egg Boiz.)

He's a snake in Hell with tons of eyes because of two reasons. He hated snakes when alive, and he had scopophobia when alive because of the glares he received by bystanders and his rivals alike. Mari helped him grow out of it.

He speaks very fancifully to reference the Victorian age, he also doesn't swear too much aside from referring to Angel and Cherri as whores spitefully

He only keeps up with Technology and Music in Hell, he couldn't care about anything else.

The reason he's not in Purgatory is because he achieved one of his goals in life, which was getting rid of his rivals.

That's all, feel free to give your opinion on the redesign.

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I don’t know if this me sounding nitpicky but I really wish Vivziepop gave Pentious a more broader/sturdier figure.

Like, Viv is really trying to tell us that an inventor who lived and died in Victorian Era London and who likely built GIANT DEATH MACHINES, looks like copy and pasted Vivziepop twink #2683728373? I’m not buying it.

And to also add to the “making death machines” point, making machines in general, both back then and now, is extremely GRUELING and takes a ton of effort and strength to do. This art is a good example

(Artist: GabendSelarom)

Despite this picture being a print more than anything else, this is a perfect example of what I think he should’ve looked like in the series proper. Pentious having a more broader figure makes sense to me because in both life and death, he’s likely spending HOURS making and forging all of his machinery.

This is all really, if you want to give your opinion, comment or reblog below.

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The radqueer fandom is dying. Reblog to making die faster :3

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A cursed thing I decided to make in IbisPaint, also drew Cherri from memory. OC x Canon rocks

Original I made

#my art #oc art #artists on tumblr #oc x canon #hazbin hotel oc #anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel criticism #anti cherrisnake #HeartSnake #slitherheart

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I despise CherriSnake and here’s why

Before we begin, something I want to clarify is that I don’t care if you ship or don’t ship CherriSnake. You do you, I’m not here to stop you and neither is this post. I just personally wanted to make a post on why I absolutely hate this ship.

Also, props to @cagneyblooms for helping me come up with some of the points.

REASON#1 - They don’t really work as partners for me

This is more of a personal reason to me, but CherriSnake is one of those ships to me where it feels like they absolutely can’t work out as a couple. Since the pilot is somewhat treated as canon in the show, they make no sense considering the fact that Pentious and Cherri absolutely despised eachother in the pilot. Both of them were locked in a turf war against one another and that hatred was mutual. Yet the show does a complete 180 from that and makes Pentious have this crush on Cherri out of nowhere, likely because Vivziepop wanted a straight HH ship and instead of deciding to just make a different character to pair Pentious/Cherri with or just make a entirely new ship. She just looked at the fandom, saw that CherriSnake was somewhat popular, and decided to make it canon last minute. CherriSnake during 2019-2023 just felt like a joke ship to me or something shippers who ship every character together would make. I mean, CherriSnake practically falls into a TON of popular tropes (Enemies/Rivals to Lovers, Angel x Demon, Girlboss x Goofball, probably way more) I’m not dissing this tropes, I even do these tropes myself with OC x Canon pairings I make. It’s just that CherriSnake felt rushed and last minute.

REASON#2 - They lack chemistry and actual interaction

To be fair, I partially put the blame on both Amazon Prime and Vivziepop for this. Amazon Prime because they only gave HH 8 episodes to really show its story, but I also blame Vivziepop for this. Because not only did she waste whatever time she had with those 8 episodes by showing us useless filler with the Vees and The Overlords instead of actually delving into the main sinners and why they’re in Hell. But she also crammed WAY too much content into 8 episodes instead of giving HH proper pacing.

But onto CherriSnake chemistry, Cherri and Pentious’s regular interactions pretty much prove to me that Vivziepop understands nothing about how actual relationships work and just make their dynamic one sided on Pentious’s part. Let’s be honest, Cherri does not reciprocate Pentious in the slightest considering the stuff she does to him. The shitty two dicks joke aside, not only was the kiss between her and Pentious forced because it was only a “heat of the moment” deal, but she also did this.

(Source: TV Tropes under Sir Pentious’s page)

I get that Cherri isn’t exactly a nicest sinner demon in Hazbin, but this combined with the two dicks joke and the kiss she and Pentious share makes her seem incredibly shallow (which she is considering how rushed this ship is in general) If Hazbin Hotel was like Bojack Horseman like some people claim it is, either these would happen.

A. Cherri realizes she was shallow for only wanting Pentious for his two dicks and never really considered how he felt, either leading Cherri and Pentious staying friends or Cherri breaking it off with him.

B. Pentious calls out Cherri for being shallow, thus giving both him and Cherri some development.

C. Cherri realizes that she only liked the kiss because it was less of them being in love and more of a heat of the moment adrenaline rush.

Or literally anything else. Cherri and Pentious never have a genuine interaction that either doesn’t make Cherri seem incredibly shallow or isn’t comedic.

As for the final reason, it may be a bit of a stretch, but I still think it counts.

REASON#3 - It’s borderline pedophillia

Again, props to @cagneyblooms for making me realize this point. Also, because pedophillia is very much a serious topic + I don’t want to throw the term around. I’ll be providing more evidence than the other two.

I’m not kidding, CherriSnake (atleast to me) becomes borderline pedophillic once you think about the lore Vivziepop spoon feeds us through her livestreams instead of diving deep into it. According to Vivziepop, Sir Pentious was in his mid 40s (best speculated to be 45) when he died while Cherri died in her early 20s, already raising a few eyebrows.

Yeah, this is already gross enough, but something that makes the age gap worse is the difference timeframe in which these two died in. Sir Pentious was confirmed to have died in 1888 London and Cherri Bomb died somewhere in the 80s. So not only was Pentious A GROWN ASS MAN WHO ALREADY HAD LIVED AND DIED BEFORE CHERRI WAS BORN, CHERRI WAS LIKELY BARELY A ADULT SINCE SHE WAS EITHER IN HER EARLY 20s AT BEST OR BARELY IN HER 20s AT WORST! This is also mentioning that Sir Pentious is also technically older than Cherri in Hell because depending on what exact year Cherri died in, Sir Pentious had either already spent nearly 100 years in Hell or he actually spent 100 years exactly in Hell when Cherri died. The only thing that really softens blow is that Pentious got a crush on her when they were both in Hell, meaning Cherri was technically still in her 20s in a way.

To conclude this, I hate CherriSnake. It’s one of the few Canon ships I actually despise since I either don’t care for Canon ships or I actually ship Canon couples as well. Even if Vivziepop wasn’t a terrible person, she’s still a really fucking awful writer who can’t stick to anything at all and is more concerned about her shitty Stoltliz soap opera rather than writing a good story. Writers like Vivziepop are the reason why research makes a good story.

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when the essay prompt lets me get a little autistic with it

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DHMIS OC drop + OC x Canon time

So her name is Finella Filmroll, she's a teacher styled after a 20s flapper and she teaches about the history of entertainment.

Props to @cagneyblooms for coming up with the name and some of the info.

Personality

Finella most of the time acts like a normal teacher despite the craziness in DHMIS, usually answering questions her students have and always being enthusiastic about what she teaches, albeit being also theatrical and dramatic as well.

Info under cut

Finella talks with a echo in her voice to reference how voices sounded in film back then. Her voice also becomes grainy if irritated.

Her hair is styled reel (I had to find a way to do it without cluttering her design).

Usually talks in modern lingo, but sometimes delves into 1920s slang

Is dating Colin, their ship name is DigitalFlim

Similarly to Colin, she can enter and leave films with others as she pleases

She hates it when her students complain about her lessons too much and will casually throw them into whatever era of film she's reviewing about to them

Finella is a sucker for the 20s and likes teaching about entertainment in the 20s the most.

Speaking of the 20s, Finella also hates it when the era is insulted

Her favorite student is Yellow Guy because she loves answering questions her students have. Her least favorite is Duck because he kept complaining about how entertainment back then was "boring"

Speaking of Duck, during her lesson, she got fed up with his constant complaining and threw him into some random 20s flim where he proceeded to get run over by a train (Duck fucking died again)

Is friends with Exie (@cagneyblooms DHMIS OC), but they get into arguments about their differing opinions on Yellow Guy.

That's all, adios

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Dora is next, no one is spared

"What up you fucks and fuckettes, It's your most BITCHIN radio host. Jumpin FUCKING Johnny Jumble! Today I'm gonna FUCKING give you BITCHES some good FUCKING taste in music. Welcome to Radio Bitchin and FUCKING listen to "Some good FUCKING Pussy" by Vivziepop"

Lyrics: "Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Pussy!"

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Crashbox: The Untold Story

"What up you fucks and fuckettes, It's your most BITCHIN radio host. Jumpin FUCKING Johnny Jumble! Today I'm gonna FUCKING give you BITCHES some good FUCKING taste in music. Welcome to Radio Bitchin and FUCKING listen to "Some good FUCKING Pussy" by Vivziepop"

Lyrics: "Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Pussy!"

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Poison is a poison given to Vivziepop’s cult members- I mean stans

"What up you fucks and fuckettes, It's your most BITCHIN radio host. Jumpin FUCKING Johnny Jumble! Today I'm gonna FUCKING give you BITCHES some good FUCKING taste in music. Welcome to Radio Bitchin and FUCKING listen to "Some good FUCKING Pussy" by Vivziepop"

Lyrics: "Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Pussy!"

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Poison moment

"What up you fucks and fuckettes, It's your most BITCHIN radio host. Jumpin FUCKING Johnny Jumble! Today I'm gonna FUCKING give you BITCHES some good FUCKING taste in music. Welcome to Radio Bitchin and FUCKING listen to "Some good FUCKING Pussy" by Vivziepop"

Lyrics: "Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Pussy!"

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Oh god… NOT VIVZIEPOP RADIO SCRAMBLE!!

"What up you fucks and fuckettes, It's your most BITCHIN radio host. Jumpin FUCKING Johnny Jumble! Today I'm gonna FUCKING give you BITCHES some good FUCKING taste in music. Welcome to Radio Bitchin and FUCKING listen to "Some good FUCKING Pussy" by Vivziepop"

Lyrics: "Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Pussy!"