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I know I haven’t been on here in a while 😭 health has been rubbish but wanted to come on to make this point:

For any of you with chronic illnesses or long term health conditions, whether that be mental or physical, you can seize the day too. Dps is constantly referring to these big adventures and pushing yourself further than you have before but for us in the community that find it hard to keep a constant day to day or simply don’t have the strength or energy, THAT is how you can ‘carpe diem’. They don’t have to be big things, like auditioning for a play or changing your name. They can be booking that doctors appointment, being able to take a shower, doing that one hobby you really love, exercising self care or even taking a day in bed to allow for rest.

Those small things are the very essence of life, of taking charge. They are the way you can seize power over a condition or health concern that starts to rule your existence. Those small things are the courage you can take to say I deserve to take this space to exist in the way that allows me to enjoy the life I have.

❤️ stay safe all of you, and rest up x

#dps fandom #dps #dead poets society #chronic illness #healthcare #health and wellness #carpe diem #seize the day #you deserve to take up space

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Todd: I love you Neil

Neil: I love you too Todd

*beat*

Neil: We both love you as well, Charlie

Charlie: Thanks, I was feeling left out

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Ugh I’m in two minds about this. While each choice does fit, my head canon is that Charlie is a Queen girlie and so now whenever I see a Queen song, I only associate it with Charlie 

The Dead Poets as Queen Songs

Neil:

Todd:

Charlie:

Knox:

Meeks:

Pitts:

Cameron:

#just think about Charlie as Killer Queen #met a man from china went down to geisha minor #is so Knarlie coded #im sorry #I can't help myself #Knarlie girlie for life #Charlie dalton

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if you’re offline or away and i message you something (like a link to a meme or a picture or w/e) honestly just assume that i’m just leaving it there for when you get back and not expecting you to answer straight away. i don’t need you to respond with “hey, sorry, i wasn’t at the computer!” or anything. i was leaving u a gift for later.

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I think the only one who’d do that is Charlie! And he wouldn’t dare go after his best mates bf haha. 

It’s also clear that the layout has the two bathrooms right across from Hager’s room so it’s probably happened back when Keating was there, and they changed things up to prevent lawsuits lol

I don't know if boys at private schools in the 50s in the US were just a lot more decent than one would think, or if Dead Poets Society is an incredibly inaccurate representation, but something about the way NO ONE brings up the fact that Todd is sitting on the windowsill waiting for everyone to leave before he showers is amazing to me. If you rocked up to my school (or most schools, I imagine) and did something like that, you would not go FIVE MINUTES before someone started antagonising you, most likely throwing slurs at you.

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what about Snowy????

Little cute white dog running around with the blue jumper man with a ginger quiff deserves recognition

Justice for Tintin and Snowy

(and why is it otto)

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Lol, I'm fifth youngest of 21 currently. I am adopted, and only 5 of my siblings are full blood siblings but all 21 of us come from my dad which is fun. He disappeared back into the Gypsy community around 2015, 2016, so I could have more siblings that we don't know about.

However, I only live with two of my siblings, both full blood, and have had no contact with the others for 17 years (since the adoption). But, in April, my adoptive parents have said I'll be able to message one of my half sisters!

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Maybe! I’ve been in The Hunger Games fandom where the majority of fanfics ruin the characterisation of Katniss, because they misunderstand why the story points are the way they are, like Prim’s ending. When I was in the Sherlock fandom, those first person fanfics were only good if they were a genius able to utilise Sherlock’s skills, which is rare. In the Marvel fandom, there aren’t actually that many first person pics because there’s so many characters to keep track of. DPS, as far as I’m aware, only has a couple for the tags I tend to read.

I think it also comes down to the tags I read. I tend to read Hurt/comfort, angst, a lot of sad and angry, as well as sickfics. Those don't tend to do as well when done from a first person pov because that particular style leads to an incapacitated narrator rather than just an unreliable one. 

But yes, I completely agree with the fact there can be other reasons for the pov decisions. I’m a really fussy reader because I started to read when I was just starting nursery, and grew up with a lot of classics as my mum teaches English, and English Pronunciation classes. I also read incredibly fast so I’ve always steered towards longer fan fictions. Therefore, I tend to read the first sentence or paragraph to see if the story is set up enough or is engaging enough to read, because I am choosing fanfics that will take up more time to read overall, and a lot of information will be included that I need to be able to absorb to understand, so if I don’t immediately click with something, it probably won’t excite my ADHD brain enough to read the whole thing.

I find it so fascinating to learn about other people’s reading styles and what content they consume!

oh this fanfiction has an interesting summary and it’s even complete let’s see wha

“I got up”

clicks out of tab

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The reason a lot of YA first person works is because it’s usually a coming of age story where the protagonist is on a journey to self discovery. 

My favourite example of first person YA fiction is The Hunger Games. Katniss is an unreliable narrator but that suits the genre so well. Because her journey is one none of us would go on in our lifetime but we can all relate to aspects. The point is that Katniss could have been anyone. It just so happened that Prim was reaped and she felt she had to volunteer. It wouldn’t have worked from anyone else’s perspective, and you can see that in the chapters where Gale leads the narration slightly because Katniss is too mentally unstable to know what’s going on. Even when Gale is slightly in more than Katniss, it works because the focus is still on Katniss really.

However, a lot of fanfiction written from the first person pov tends to be less thought out than a published trilogy/prequel in the YA genre. Therefore, the character isn’t on as big of a journey. Also these protagonists tend to fall under the Mary Sue character archetype, or in simpler terms, self inserts. They will never have the nuance of an unreliable narrator.

That is why I never read first person fanfics even if the source material is in first person. My only first person fanfic I’ve written that I like is a Hunger Games one which I’m writing to specifically practice that style.

oh this fanfiction has an interesting summary and it’s even complete let’s see wha

“I got up”

clicks out of tab

#fanfic #first person perspective #Hunger Games #mary sue #self insert #YA #writing #writing analysis #coming of age movies

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honestly the best screenshot thus far. everything about this is perfect. charlie styling his hair, cameron and pitts yelling at each other, neil jumping around like an overexcited puppy, and the shoulder of todd who is gay panicking just off screen

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No need to apologise! A lot of my comments in my reblog were also referring to the community’s opinions as a whole.

I will say in regards to Cameron being labelled homophobic and straight, it’s clear to see where that comes from! It stems from fanfiction as many set DPS stories (particularly Knarlie) in modern day where they don’t have the threat of the adults. Therefore, they use Cameron, as he’s got that strained friendship with Charlie already, and provides the story with a reason why they have to hide their relationship. As for the straight comments, I see where people take it too far, for sure, but that also stems from the fact that there are 7 boys, and often people partner AnderPerry, Knarlie and Mitts, leaving Cameron without someone, and therefore potentially falling into the Token Straight trope.

This community can often take things too far, which is interesting as there’s only two hours worth of context. I rewatched DPS yesterday, and there are several moments where Cameron is being hated on by the other boys, not just Charlie, in the background, and I find that interesting because no one picks up on the contextual elements to why Cameron is hated, and instead make him homophobic. I have a couple moments where Cameron hates on Knarlie in my pic, but it’s always in the context of ew, get that pda away from me. I personally headcanon Cameron as aroace, so he’ll have a marriage of convenience arranged with a lovely girl by his parents, and he isn’t going to object because he doesn’t care about those things, but that he can’t see why others get upset when their parents want to do the same. He’s ignorant, but not to the community, just to the awareness that others don’t have the same opinions as him.

More love for Cameron in the fandom, I think people take the hate too far. I will dislike him but still write him into my fics, in a canon friendly way.

growing up is learning to love Cameron and recognise him as a victim whilst becoming more and more critical of Knox and Charlie. Also, I watched a compilation of Charlie hating Cam and everyone hating on Cam in the comments completely missed the point of this film. So.

"Cameron will be exactly like Neil's father" HUH

#dps boys #DPS fandom #dps analysis #no need to apologize #Richard Cameron

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Growing up is realising all the boys are victims, and while I don’t agree with Knox’s actions, it’s important to remember, he never kissed her on the lips without consent, and it was Chet and Bubba misreading the situation that caused the fight. I would never do what Knox did but in those days, that wasn’t scandalous to do without consent. I’m thankful that has changed. And Charlie’s cultural appropriation is also correct to time of setting. Boys going to the Old Indian Cave and not making reference, would have been so inaccurate, and I for one love films with period accuracy. 

I personally don’t like Cameron as I think he’s just annoying, and had clear malice for Charlie throughout. It’s also important to note that characters are allowed to dislike each other! In a group of 7 teenage boys, there had to be at least one dynamic where they have to tolerate each other day to day but when it comes down to it, they wouldn’t risk their own selves for each other. So Charlie and Cameron’s dynamic is a welcome one in the movie and there is no reason to pick sides. Knox and Charlie never make fun of Cameron’s looks or interests, but because they want to rebel, they make fun of Cameron’s ‘bootlicking’ tendencies as deep down they’re scared that he’ll blow the whole thing and they can’t bear the thought of not having that release. And they’re right to be scared as it is indeed Cameron who confesses everything, leading to Charlie’s expulsion and Keating’s firing. That’s why I don't like Cameron, and why he is in fact set up as one of three antagonists in the film. Because he was always going to blow their cover, and his actions hurt the remaining protagonist, Charlie, and the mentor figure, Keating. As a media analysis student, I learnt to analyse their roles and how that has an affect on the audience. Cameron throughout is clearly signposted as the antagonist that betrays the group, a Judas antagonist.

That’s why I’ll never ship Chameron. In my mind it never made sense. I can see the enemies to lovers kind of thing, but ultimately, it’s a protagonist v. antagonist relationship, and they purposefully were created to oppose each other on almost everything.

growing up is learning to love Cameron and recognise him as a victim whilst becoming more and more critical of Knox and Charlie. Also, I watched a compilation of Charlie hating Cam and everyone hating on Cam in the comments completely missed the point of this film. So.

"Cameron will be exactly like Neil's father" HUH

#DPS #dps fandom #dps boys #dps analysis #my analysis #antagonist #protagonist #Richard Cameron #charlie dalton #knox overstreet #john keating

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ALSOOOOOOO

looking back at the reblog tags on @saint-starflicker​ ‘s original post, another user also pointed it out with Hopkins. 

It also reminded me of the fact that the camera focuses on Charlie when Discipline is said, and furthers the point of Charlie being taken out of the banner holding. He’s too naughty to be allowed that responsibility frankly, and it then subconsciously creates the link between Knox and Charlie both battling with discipline in different ways. More so than excellence, honour and tradition, discipline means different things to different people, in different circumstances. Replacing Charlie with Knox but still creating that link by cutting to Charlie, it shows that Knox is at the start of his journey, but Charlie has already learnt enough of the lessons, and he just needs someone to come and tell him to just get on with rebelling.

AND THAT’S WHERE KEATING COMES IN.

It’s commonly talked about on this site that Charlie already knows the lessons, clear from his ‘exercising the right not to walk’ comment, but that he just waits for permission. Ultimately, this small change makes all the difference!

Dead Poets Banner Theory

I thought this was kinda obvious on my second watch, but I haven't seen anyone bring it up yet.

One of the very first shots of the film is the boys bringing out the 4 banners. It is clearly shown that Cameron is carrying tradition, Knox is carrying discipline, Neil, excellence, and Charlie, honour.

These obviously represent their character traits. Cameron is very traditional and rigid, Neil is always put on a high pedestal of excellence, and Knox lacks discipline when it comes to love.

What I find interesting is that when the boys walk out, Charlie is no longer there. Whilst it's probably just a random discrepancy, I'd like to think of it as him losing any remainder of his honour after his expulsion.

Later, they recite the altered four pillars. Cameron, travesty. Nothing goes his way, he's heartbroken. Charlie, horror. Self explanatory. Knox, decadence. He is incredibly self-indulgent and lives for pleasure and romance. Finally, Neil is excrement. I see it as quite simply, when you die your bowels get flushed out. Guess what damn happens to Neil.

Anyways that was all, I'd love to hear some thoughts on it! I have a ton more things I've noticed in a google doc so tell me if you'd like to see them I love analysing things :))

#dps boys #DPS fandom #charlie dalton #dps analysis

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I believe it may have been me! I wrote my Screenplay Analysis on DPS, and this was a big point. In the 3rd draft of the screenplay, and the terribly written book, Charlie holds the Discipline banner, but then is replaced with Knox for the film. This was changed on the fly, during filming, so there are definite continuity errors. Hopkins does indeed take up a banner, which I feel represents that he will stand up with the Poets at the end, despite all his reservations because the honour of standing up for what is right, is more than the honour of mindlessly obeying. 

My guess is they shot some B-roll, while they were adjusting parts of the script around who carries the banners, and it made it into the movie because they felt they shouldn’t open directly on the assembly, and so Charlie is present and Knox hasn’t been given the other banner yet.

The original intention was for Neil and Charlie, as the two protagonists (I can expand on this if needed) to have their demises foreshadowed in the banner, but I presume that it changed because Knox’s plot line needed more exposition. Charlie and Neil’s narratives were the same until the second meeting, hence why Neil’s exposition could speak for Charlie.

Dead Poets Banner Theory

I thought this was kinda obvious on my second watch, but I haven't seen anyone bring it up yet.

One of the very first shots of the film is the boys bringing out the 4 banners. It is clearly shown that Cameron is carrying tradition, Knox is carrying discipline, Neil, excellence, and Charlie, honour.

These obviously represent their character traits. Cameron is very traditional and rigid, Neil is always put on a high pedestal of excellence, and Knox lacks discipline when it comes to love.

What I find interesting is that when the boys walk out, Charlie is no longer there. Whilst it's probably just a random discrepancy, I'd like to think of it as him losing any remainder of his honour after his expulsion.

Later, they recite the altered four pillars. Cameron, travesty. Nothing goes his way, he's heartbroken. Charlie, horror. Self explanatory. Knox, decadence. He is incredibly self-indulgent and lives for pleasure and romance. Finally, Neil is excrement. I see it as quite simply, when you die your bowels get flushed out. Guess what damn happens to Neil.

Anyways that was all, I'd love to hear some thoughts on it! I have a ton more things I've noticed in a google doc so tell me if you'd like to see them I love analysing things :))

#charlie dalton #neil perry #hopkins #knox overstreet #dps boys #DPS fandom #dps analysis #dead poets society #my analysis

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hello! if you’d like, please list 5 things that make you happy, then put the same message in the ask box of the last ten people that reblogged something from you. you don’t have to, it’s up to you! 💕

Omg this is my first ask! Does this make you my first proper mutual on here?

Knarlie. I love thinking, reading and writing about Knox and Charlie as a nuanced bi4bi couple, that can do the sweet side that's not talked about much, but also as a hypersexual couple as the fandom already has anderperry for the sweet vibes.

Acting/drama. I study Drama at university and it's my ambition to be in films/tv/theatre. I love to have nuanced convos about pieces of live art, as well as film analysis.

Adoption reform! I was adopted at 3 and it has hugely shaped my life. I love to talk about things I find difficult or have to adapt, being adopted, that most people would never think about. I'm starting a YouTube channel where I discuss the reforms proposed and see how things have changed in the 17 years I've been adopted.

Twilight. I'm currently writing a tv adaptation of it to further my writing skills and I think there are important themes that are discussed in the books.

Autumn/Spring. I love the way you can choose to wear a jumper, but you don't have to. There's versatility. I don't have to wear tights with my skirts. I can go out without a jacket.

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my best friend thinks Neil is called greg stilllllllll

#DPS #dead poets society #Neil Perry

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What’s also interesting is that of the Poets, Charlie and Neil are the only ones who Keating labels as definite positions in the hierarchy involving top position of Captain. It’s clear Keating intends Neil to be Vice Captain, by handing the mantle down to him directly and physically.

HOWEVER. Charlie is the only character in the whole movie that gets a nickname from Keating. During the ‘choking on the bone’ scene, Keating calls him Ace. Ace is often a title bestowed on the second in charge, the one to lead when Captain/Vice-Captain are incapacitated. So, when Neil, ahem, doesn’t not die, Charlie is obviously the one who Keating hopes will take up the mantle. And he does. He’s the only Poet to venture up to Todd’s bed to break the news, despite his obvious broken spirit and heart. 

So when they can’t blame Neil, and Mr Keating is about to be expelled anyway, for encouraging Neil to still continue with acting, the next person to have a downfall would be Charlie, and it is Charlie. Through no fault of Charlie’s, he has inherited a society, and title, that Cameron takes offence to, and THAT is why Charlie’s expulsion is so needed. 

Because Welton defeated the trifecta. The Captain, Vice-Captain, and the Ace. 

That is why those titles are so important, and why, when Todd is more daring, and uses the title after the Captain is ‘defeated’, it hits so hard.

Thinking about how when Keating first introduces himself he says they can call him 'O Captain my Captain' if they're 'slightly more daring', and we see Neil as the first one to call him that, before some of the other Poets do throughout the film (the generally louder ones - Charlie and Knox), showing their already more 'daring' personalities.

The overwhelming significance of Todd saying 'O Captain my Captain' at the end is not just about him disobeying Nolan and showing his loyalty to Keating, it's about how despite everything he has become more daring, and that he's able to show Keating that in that final moment, with those specific words.

#DPS #DPS fandom #captain #dead poets society #dead poets #o captain my captain #ace #john keating #charlie dalton #Neil Perry #Richard Cameron