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Lost Legends: The Fixer Upper

A GreatQueenAnna Review

Released: October 17, 2023

Type: Series

Age Range: 8 - 12 years

Audience Score: 4.4/5

My Score: 3.8/5

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With the films focusing their attention on the sisters, sometimes Kristoff can feel like a side-character more than a tritagonist. So, hearing that Kristoff was getting a whole novel to himself, and exploring a bit of his past, I was of course excited for this book.

Overall, it was a cute story that gave us a much needed glimpse into Kristoff's childhood, with some themes being very compelling. There were some things that were a bit strange and the story does tend to move a bit slow, but overall it is very nice side content for Frozen fans. I can only hope that Kristoff continues to get more content in the future (especially within the films) that explore even more.

More in depth review under the cut.

The Fixer Upper seems like a more expansive version of the Disney Frozen: The Hero Within graphic novel by Joe Caramagna. Both stories feature Kristoff's difficulty within the orphanage, even Gustav comes in to play a major role. I do enjoy catching all of the connections made within the novel canon - it really makes it feel like the authors do indeed care about creating a coherent universe, even if the novels are not 100% part of the film's world.

The story begins with the family playing charades during game night. Kristoff is compelled to tell the story of his experiences as a child within 'human' school. However, his story first starts with Kristoff explaining to the sisters and Olaf how he met Sven and left the orphanage at 8 years old, and his relationship with Tor - his ice harvesting mentor.

After a few instances of the narrative going back and forth from the story to present day, we time skip to Kristoff going to school at 12 years old and then the instances of present day become less occurring, and the story becomes a bit more focused.

The narrative focuses on Kristoff trying to figure out where he belongs - with humans, or with trolls. He struggles to fit in with the humans, and he feels as though because he is not a troll, that the trolls don't' want him around as much anymore.

This is actually the most interesting part of the story for me - I understand how Kristoff feels as a mixed-ethnic person. Feeling like you don't belong in either part of your family or heritage because the other side of you is "in the way. " Kristoff couldn't get along with other humans because he was raised by trolls, but also felt he didn't belong with the trolls because he was human. This is incredibly compelling.

I really like the style of how at the beginning of every chapter, we get a quote from the The Ice Harvester's Guide to Ice and how the quote seems to match the scene. It was a very nice touch.

One this that was disappointing was how it seems that the Ice Harvesters are not specifically tied to being Sámi - even though this was alluded to in Dangerous Secrets. Unless I missed it (which is possible, my ADHD is all over the place when reading anything, especially novels), there were no references at all to Kristoff being Sámi or a fictional equivalent, like the Northuldra. Now, I know that this is probably not something the writers are allowed to delve into, but it would've been nice if a small reference was made - like in Dangerous Secrets.

Another thing that was a bit weird was how Grand Pabbie tells Kristoff that one of the reasons they were adamant on him going to 'human' school was so that he could meet his true love. Why would a 12 year old need to be told that he needs to interact with humans so that in the future he can meet a girl? He's 12. I get that the trolls are love experts, and this is meant to be a foreshadowing of his relationship with Anna...but come on. Again. He's 12.

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5/1/24

I'm back! Well...sort of.

So, I had hoped by now that life would have eased up a bit, but things are still quite hectic. However, I'm determined to dive back into what brings me joy and a sense of normalcy – like connecting with all of you and writing obsessive Frozen stuff.

While I'll do my best to stay engaged, there might be moments where I need to take a breather. I appreciate your understanding if I go a bit quiet from time to time.

On the bright side, I have a couple of posts ready to share – some answered questions and my review of A Fixer Upper. Following that, I'm gonna complete my review of "All is Found" and put together the next edition of Frozen Canon Talk.

Stay tuned for more updates, and thank you for your patience and support!

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2/4/24

Just want to update everyone, I am going on another hiatus until May 1st. In the meantime, you guys can freely send me/tag me on Frozen 3 updates and articles, and any questions you may have, and you can still message me. Just know that I will not be able to respond until the end of my hiatus.

Thank you guys for understanding!

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I was scrolling through your posts and read your response to an anon's question regarding Male Elsa (or Elias lol) and you mentioned if they meant villain Elsa. My question is, what would the movie be like if Elsa was a villain but redeemable and sympathetic as originally planned, in your opinion?

It depends on which Elsa we're talking about. Because there are two evil, but sympathetic pre-Elsa's.

The one on the left (we'll call her Crown!Elsa) is the Elsa that is not related to Anna, with the backstory of being left at the altar and becoming the self-proclaimed Snow Queen after freezing her own heart. The one on the right (Onion!Elsa) is the Elsa that is Anna's sister and was forced to hide her magic, becoming jealous of Anna finding love and freezes her heart so she'll know her pain.

Both of them end up trying to attack Arendelle with a Snow Man army, only to be foiled by Hans who causes an avalanche to destroy them and Arendelle. Anna helps both realize their mistakes, and convinces them to help save Arendelle, becoming redeemed.

You can find more info on them and other versions of Pre-Frozen in my What Came Before Analysis (Shameless self-plug in lol).

In terms of Crown!Elsa, I don't think her story would be as emotional to be honest. Interesting, sure, but Anna and Elsa being sisters is like the breakthrough that made this story work in the first place. A random lady that Anna has to appeal to to get her to be good doesn't hold the same weight, unless if Anna knew her on a personal level (friend of her mom, aunt, care taker, mentor, etc).

Now, Onion!Elsa always sounded really interesting to me. Don't get me wrong, I would choose the Elsa we have now any day, but I have to admit that Onion!Elsa always sounded like a really fun character. If we go by her original characterization, she seemed very childish in a way and very overly dramatic.

Like, look at this old art by Claire Keane.

She just seems so full of character and emotion - she seems like she is both goofy and full of heartache that you can't help but feel for her. Also, she apparently raps. I kid you not. If you read @Stitchkingdom's post here, you can actually take a look at Onion!Elsa and Anna's song that predated FTFTIF Reprise, Cool With Me.

So if we take Onion!Elsa, and put her right into the current Frozen and Frozen 2, things would be very different.

First off, Onion!Elsa would probably be much crueler towards Anna wanting to marry Hans - straight up calling her stupid. I'm pretty sure Onion!Elsa would cause the winter on purpose as well. I'm also pretty sure she would hit Anna on purpose (but regret it afterwards), and have no issues killing off the Duke's Henchmen. She would probably clap back at Hans' "Don't be the monster they fear you are!" with something like "How about you tell them to stop trying to murder me?!" She would probably be less kind to Hans and the Duke's treachery, and probably at the very least freeze their asses before sending them away.

In Frozen 2, she would probably be much more distant in Arendelle and could maybe feel a stronger pull towards the voice. I imagine Onion!Elsa would also be much more strict with Anna following her everywhere, and have no problems pushing her away earlier on (for example, maybe she straight up leaves Anna behind at the Northuldra Camp after the Earth Giants come along to chase them). Also, Onion!Elsa would most likely let Arendelle fall to be rebuilt, because she would be much more offended by her grandfather's treachery and feel it needs to be destroyed, even if the spirits felt otherwise.

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Thank you! It means a lot. This took forever to write and research haha.

Tbh, I did like his tropey villain monologue. He’s a Disney Villain he can have his moment haha.

Now, in terms of if he’s smiling— maybe? I personally see that he’s struggling to fight the henchman to get the crossbow to aim at the chandelier so he has a struggle face.

But he could’ve been trying to crack a smile there.

Another thing I actually didn’t add on the analysis because I was unsure about it at the time, but now that I’ve rewatched the film — I’ve also noticed that Hans doesn’t actually do too much physical intimacy?

Like, the closest he gets to Anna is the reveal scene, and also in the “We would like your blessing” scene when they both say “Our marriage”.

Other than those two scenes, he’s very distant from her. Only touching her hands, shoulders, and on her waist when he lifts her or dances with her.

Just a random thought there.

Delving into Hans' Sociopathy

Prince Hans is canonically a sociopath. Jennifer Lee intentionally wrote the character with specific behaviors and traits that align with this label. Within this analysis, I wanted to do an observation of Hans’ overall character and talk about his sociopathic behaviors.

The purpose of this essay is to only talk about his first film appearance. I do not mean it to be an analysis of whether he will return, if this will remain a canon aspect of his character for future appearances, or if he is capable of redemption. This is also not a post that is trying to get you to hate the character or use it as leverage for whatever opinions you may have. It is simply an analysis.

I am also writing about a fictional character, so a lot of his personality is over-exaggerated. Please refrain from using this as a tool for diagnosing yourself or others or as a general representation of these labels and disorders.

I want to emphasize that I am talking about a character who is both a villain and a sociopath. However, please avoid confusing these two things as one. Not all individuals with ASPD (sociopathy) are bad or engage in criminal behavior. For more information, you can read about it here. If you want to know the thoughts of someone with ASPD (sociopathy) on this topic, I asked a friend and you can read their response here on various related subjects.

Now that all that is out of the way, let's dive in.

Part 1: When Was This Confirmed?

Jennifer Lee first confirmed that Hans was a sociopath during an interview with John August and Aline Brosh McKenna of Scriptnotes, in Episode 128: Frozen with Jennifer Lee.

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Jennifer: Hans is a villain from the minute he hits her with the horse, in my mind. Aline: Really? Jennifer: But I am slightly a sociopath, I think. He’s just calculating from that moment.

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John: But clearly he’s a very talented sociopath. Jennifer: He’s very talented. He’s charming. He mirrors everyone. And actually, the original story had a lot to do with mirrors. In many iterations of the story we talk about mirrors and we bring them up. And so I held on a little to that, what Hans is is a mirror as a lot of charming, but hallow or sociopathic. Aline: And she’s (Anna) also so lonely that it’s like she’s falling in love with her reflection in the pond. Jennifer: Yeah, exactly. And he mirrors her and he’s goofy with her. He’s a little bit more bold and aggressive with the Duke, because the Duke is a jerk, so he’s a jerk back. And with Elsa he’s a hero.

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She later further confirmed this during a Q&A event with fans on Twitter (X), in response to a fan asking if Hans was ever a good guy during the early productions of Frozen.

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Santino Fontana, Hans' voice actor, also confirmed this in an interview. You can see this interview here, the Frozen segment lasts from approx. 15:35 - 19:35.

Santino Fontana: Yea, He's a good-looking guy. Also, a sociopath, but yea. - Broadwaycom, Show People With Paul Wontorek Interview

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Part 2: The Traits of ASPD (Sociopathy)

According to the DSM-5, those with ASPD are described with some of the following traits.

Ego-centrism; self-esteem derived from personal gain, power, or pleasure. Failure to conform to lawful or culturally normative ethical behavior. Lack of concern for feelings, needs, or suffering of others. Frequent use of seduction, charm, glibness, or ingratiation to achieve one’s ends.

To summarize, sociopaths are those who - lack empathy for others, have self-esteem that is based on personal gain and power, disregards social norms and manipulate and charm others to get what they want.

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There are also some anecdotal traits that are not directly referred to in the DSM-5, but talked about within ASPD communities and from those who know those with it. One trait is the concept of mimicry or mirroring. The idea here is that a sociopath will mirror the behaviors of another person in order to either charm or intimidate them - or in some cases, try to fit into social norms.

M.E, a person with sociopathy, describes this behavior as “métier, or bread and butter” for those who have sociopathy.

I think mimicry is interesting, and I think a lot of empaths think it's freaky. What I find more freaky is what constant mimicry suggests – that you have no baseline "you," that you are always just reactions to outside stimuli. I have a good friend who was initially very frustrated that I didn't seem to have defaults: no default understanding of right and wrong, no default beliefs, no default personality even. Everything had to be reasoned, everything had to be constructed anew. It can be frustrating for me too. It's time consuming. And sometimes it disturbs me how impressionable I am. Being a blank slate, sometimes I can surprise even myself with non sequiturs or unpredictable behavior. It's sort of scary. – M.E. Thomas - Sociopaths, Mimicry, and Blank Slates – Sociopath World

Part 3: Hans' Behaviors Throughout the Film

Lacking Empathy

Hans shows this behavior directly during and after his reveal, and more subtly before the reveal. The reason for this is because, obviously, they wanted to keep Hans' true intentions secret as much as possible, mostly due to John Lasseter's insistence to make the reveal more shocking. However, Hans' true nature does shine through in subtle ways throughout the narrative.

Let's focus on the more direct portrayals first.

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Direct instances of Lacking Empathy

During the reveal, Hans realizes that his 'True Love's Kiss' will not work because he doesn't love Anna. What makes a lot of this scene especially unemphatic and cruel, is how Hans actually looks like he is enjoying Anna's pain. Hans looks straight into Anna's eyes, smiling and slightly laughing, as he verbally insults her and tries to quicken her death. In this scene, he is simply enjoying telling Anna how he actually feels, and seems relieved to be rid of her.

Later on, Hans reveals to Elsa that Anna is 'dead'. When Elsa falls to the ground in anguish, he walks behind her with a smile on his face, ready to decapitate her until Anna intervenes.

Later on, something that my sociopath friend also mentioned, was how uncaring and completely nonchalant Hans was when he realizes that Anna is still alive and that he has lost. He just seems confused that Anna is alive. He seems very unemphatic even towards his own situation - that he's in trouble now.

The director says that her stand-out moment for him was when he questions Anna’s comment of being ‘just her’. For me, it’s when he stands up after being knocked out by the blast, without even acknowledging that he’s in deep shit, and just says ‘but, she froze your heart!” I laughed so hard. Only sociopaths would do this shit. “Anna, how dare you. You should be dead.” - "B.G."

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Subtle Instances of Lacking Empathy

The subtle instance of Hans showing a lack of empathy is how he lacks genuine awareness for people he supposedly loves. Hans says a lot of things, but doesn't really show it.

For example, during the scene after Elsa runs away. While Hans and Anna are walking towards the Duke, Anna is visibly cold. Hans notices that she is, but instead brings his jacket closer to himself. He asks after the fact if she is ok. Anna replies "No". Hans responds by immediately asking her if she knew about Elsa's magic.

In other words, after hearing directly from Anna that she is not ok, Hans disregards her feelings to ask about the situation. He doesn't offer his coat, a hug to warm her, or even asks her if there isn't anything he could do to help her. While yes, there is a crises going on - Hans supposedly loves and cares for Anna. Yet, he is not really showing that care, only asking an empty question.

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Another instance that shows this idea of Hans saying things but not showing, it is during the Castle Siege scene. Hans tells Elsa "Don't be the monster they fear you are!" But then immediately plans to kill/incapacitate her with the chandelier. He is trying to give off this impression of trying to help her, but does something completely contradictory to his words.

As a small side point before moving on, I recognize that some disagree that this was his intention. I feel that the scene pretty much speaks for itself, with little room for interpretation.

Here we have Hans looking directly at the Weselton's Henchman, and then looking towards his crossbow.

Then, you see Hans change his gaze towards the ceiling, way above the henchman, straight at the chandelier, and keeps staring at it as he moves towards the henchman.

As we see here, in a different angle, he is directly aiming that crossbow towards the chandelier.

I would also like to point out, that although I do not feel A Frozen Heart by Elizabeth Rudnick is entirely Lore Friendly (but apparently is part of the Book Canon Universe now as of All is Found: A Frozen Anthology), it is good to note that this scene was also acknowledged in this book.

Hans looked around the room desperate for a plan, and noticed the giant chandelier directly above Elsa. (...) True, it might kill her, but would that be so bad? One less obstacle to the throne.” - A Frozen Heart, Rudnick, Pg. 226

Thus, if this novel recognizes the intention behind this scene, then it was something present in the script and/or character notes at the time the author was writing the novel. Keep in mind, this scene is never actually mentioned by any of the creative team. Thus, the author had to be made aware of this to include it in her book.

If you are a fan of A Frozen Heart, and include it with your personal canon, I have an fairly old analysis where I go into a lot of these concepts with the novel as well.

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Another big thing that shows Hans' lack of empathy is something that is foreshadowed in Love is an Open Door. I'm going to quote some lines from my Meant to Be analysis on this song, that show how Hans actually doesn't really show any empathy towards Anna and does not focus on her at all - he instead is more concerned with himself and his goals.

Both Anna and Hans mirror each other - both felt neglected and underestimated by their families and thus want something more from life. However, the focus on how they go about mending their pain is very evident in the first few lines of this song. Notice how Anna focuses on people - she references Elsa closing doors and losing connections with her. Hans comes and gives her the attention she craves, and in turn, she focuses on him. She says - I bump into you. I see your face. Hans, on the other hand, focuses on Arendelle. I've been searching my whole life to find my own place. But with you, I've found my place.

Many fans have also pointed out this specific lyric here - Hans: You - Anna: And I - Hans & Anna - Are just meant to be. Pointing out how Hans never actually referred to himself directly. He and Anna only really refer to Anna herself. Hans says you (Anna) and Anna refers to herself (and I).

Desire for Power

This one is fairly obvious - as Hans himself explains quite clearly his intentions for being kind to Anna and the people of Arendelle.

As thirteenth in line in my own kingdom, I didn't stand a chance. I knew I'd have to marry into the throne somewhere - As heir, Elsa was preferable, of course. But no one was getting anywhere with her. But you - You were so desperate for love you were willing to marry me, just like that. I figured, after we married, I'd have to stage a little accident for Elsa. But then she doomed herself, and you were dumb enough to go after her. All that's left now is to kill Elsa and bring back summer. (...) No, you're no match for Elsa. I, on the other hand, am the hero who is going to save Arendelle from destruction. - Prince Hans, Frozen (2013)

Hans makes it quite clear in his tropey villain monologue here (haha) that he wants to be a King. It didn't matter to him where he went or who he married, but he was determined to make it happen - even if it meant having to murder someone to get them out of his way.

Hans also shows a complete disregard for social norms in this way of thinking. He believes that murder and manipulation is an appropriate way to achieve his goals, and feels no remorse for his actions, but instead (as stated by B.G) confusion when he fails.

There are many theories as to why Hans feels he needs this power, to the point of hurting someone - A Frozen Heart tried to give a background for this, giving the blame to his father and brothers for abusing him. The novel is not entirely far off, as Jennifer Lee herself has stated that Hans is a product of being raised without love.

However, while the details for Hans' background is still fairly mysterious, we can conclude that Hans canonically had a rough childhood whether you choose to only use the film's clues and Jennifer Lee's words, or go by A Frozen Heart.

I think Hans is a tragic figure because he's a consequence of being raised without love. - Jennifer Lee, Reddit (2014)

When it comes to ASPD, while the direct cause is still currently unknown - environmental factors, such as child abuse, are believed to contribute to the development of this condition. Thus, Hans was raised in a home without love, and it led to him developing ASPD and valuing power over anything else.

Manipulation

This is the biggest aspect of Hans' portrayal, and also the biggest hint through out the film, is how he manipulates and mirrors people. We begin with Hans' introduction - before and after the infamous "just you?" line.

When we first meet him, he is much more panicked. He just caused a scene and hurt the Princess after all, and then they started awkwardly tumbling around on a boat. He's not interested in Anna at this point, and doesn't want to get in trouble. When Anna falls on him in the boat, he just says "um..." and ignores most of her comments, including calling him "gorgeous". He goes straight into trying to apologize and smooth things over.

However, right after the "just you?" line, suddenly things change.

He smiles after her when she leaves, he stares at her during the Chapel scene, and seems to be following her around to the point where he is confidently able to catch her when she trips, and knows exactly what to say to get Anna to like him.

"I would never shut you out." - Seriously, how does the awkward guy in the beginning of his intro that didn't respond to Anna's silly advances, suddenly feel confident enough to just proclaim to the same girl he just met that he would be an emotional support for her? The sudden shift in his demeanor is actually a bit jarring when you think about it. Someone cannot go from awkward guy to confident prince charming so suddenly.

It goes even further than this when he starts to mirror Anna. Here, I am exploring Love is an Open Door again from my analysis, with how Hans mirrors Anna.

The rest of the song is them directly mirroring each other, representing an almost robotic relationship between them - the cover image for this analysis directly shows this robotic aspect on the clock tower, when they mimic the gears.

A funny thing actually happens during Anna's announcement of their marriage. Hans is actually switching between trying to appeal to Elsa while also keeping up with Anna. Let me show you what I mean.

Hans is trying to act stoic and reserved in front of Elsa, to match her tone. However, Anna keeps interrupting him and making him trip over his words. Hans eventually gives into Anna's goofiness and just loses his composure completely and just copies Anna, basically becoming her clone in her behavior. You can see here how he struggles to keep up with both women at the same time.

You can also notice how Hans keeps trying to look at Elsa to see her expression and reaction to their relationship. Anna, on the other hand, while she does look at Elsa occasionally, she is shown to be more infatuated with Hans and looks at him most of the time. Hans is trying to appeal to Elsa, while Anna just wants Hans’ support.

Later on during this scene, he completely sheds this goofier persona and goes back to trying to be stoic, like Elsa. He is even adopting her more serious and disinterested expressions, opposite to Anna's expressions that he was just mirroring moment ago.

He completely stops mirroring Anna here, and goes straight into trying to appeal to Elsa and match her tone. Right after this, he goes back to expressing Anna’s sadness again.

Since the beginning of his introduction, Hans has shown three different personalities that contradict each other. His awkward self that forgets to introduce himself and rams into people with horses, his charming self that is charming, fun and sensitive, and his stoic and reserved self that appeals to royalty.

This mirroring behavior and personality shift continues later on the film.Hans is shown to be kind and generous to the people of Arendelle, not having a mean bone in his body. This persona matches how he acts for Anna after their first encounter. However, Hans adopts the Duke's personality to threaten him, that is confrontational and even a bit childish.

"Do not question the Princess. She left me in charge, and I will not hesitate to protect Arendelle from treason!"

Hans literally starts yelling at the Duke, and accusing him of treason, which is an extreme accusation - just as the Duke is yelling and making accusations against Anna. He is pretty much copying the Duke to get him to back off in a way that he will understand.

Remember what Jennifer Lee said in the Script Notes interview?

Jennifer: Yeah, exactly. And he mirrors her and he’s goofy with her. He’s a little bit more bold and aggressive with the Duke, because the Duke is a jerk, so he’s a jerk back. And with Elsa he’s a hero.

Hans pretty much switches between these three personalities throughout the film. Goofy and charming with Anna, stoic and heroic with Elsa and Arendelle, and confrontational with the Duke.

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Other Hans Analyses

New - These I have written recently and have updated info.

Irredeemable Monster - Should Hans Make a Return?

Meant to Be - Frozen's Secret Villain Song

Frozen in Fear - Comparing the antagonist's reactions towards magic.

Old - May have some ideas that have missing info and overall needs updating

Different Perspectives - Why a Frozen Heart does not Support a Redemption for Hans.

Wolf in Sheep's Clothing - Hints that lead to Hans' Betrayal

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Your take on Queen Rita? I'm curious 😎

You know how some fans will often say that the writers tend to ignore the fact that Iduna and Agnarr made bad choices? And that the films just have the sisters give their parents nothing but praise? (I mostly disagree, but I get where they’re coming from).

Well, that’s how I feel about Queen Rita. She shows up in two books, Dangerous Secrets and Polar Nights, and in both the authors try to paint her as a wonderful person and mother who was this beautifully tragic figure.

I really don’t agree. At all. I think she was incredibly selfish for abandoning her son and leaving him with a cold father. She literally erased her memories of him so she wouldn’t feel bad about leaving him behind. I literally can’t with this woman.

Wouldn’t it be awesome if she showed up as a villain I’m F3? Kidding, kidding. Mostly.

#frozen #frozen 2 #greatqueenanna/responses #queen rita #frozen 2: dangerous secrets #polar nights cast into darkness

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Is there any resemblance between Agnar and Runeard?

I suppose they have the same chin, jaw and eye shape. They also have similar cheek bones. Everything else is fairly different, giving us a bit of room to interpret what he inherited from his mother, Queen Iabandonedmysonformyownhappiness Rita.

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Why didn't Olaf's love save Anna? Isn't his willingness to melt for her an act of true love?

To be honest with you, while its not explicitly stated anywhere, I am under the fan belief that Anna needed to perform the act herself. Because not only does Olaf's act count, but Also Kristoff running back to Arendelle and leaving Anna with Hans.

Like what Olaf said haha.

I believe that Anna had to do the act herself and save her own heart. The film puts a lot of emphasis that Anna doesn't really know what love is, and also pushes the idea that 'Anna thawed her own heart'. This emphasis is probably there to push this point across, that Anna needed to understand love in order for her heart to thaw.

It's just one of those quirky things about Frozen's lore I suppose.

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About the Anna having fire powers question: Wouldn't Elsa feel some initial horror at learning Anna has powers like she does since from her perspective it looks like Anna has also been cursed? Speaking of which how might other people react to Anna's fire powers? How exactly might this change the events of the first and second movie? Could Anna perhaps undo the winter? And assuming she can also make clothes with her magic, what kind of fire outfit do you see Anna wearing?

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I suppose Elsa would have some fearful emotions for Anna having powers. Elsa in F1 feels that her powers are a curse, so it is possible that she would view Anna's that way as well. Maybe she would be over protective and try to help Anna hide it. Or, since we know she is curious about the source of her magic, she might actually become fearful as to why both her and Anna have opposing powers. Are they mean to be enemies? Is Anna meant to destroy her or keep her in check? The reverse?

It's difficult to say though, she loves Anna so her viewing something of hers as a curse seems strange to me.

I think other people would react to Anna's fire powers the same way they reacted to Elsa's Ice powers. With fear and confusion. Maybe even more so since fire is more associated with destruction. However, since the people of Arendelle warmed up to Elsa after she showed her kindness, they would probably warm up to Anna as well (Hehe - Warm up).

Hans might actually want her even more after finding out about her magic. Not only would he have a Queen, but a Queen with dangerous fire magic that he has under his thumb. That would be a quite the prize for him I would think. It would also be more of a challenge as well though, since he would have to play his cards right not to get burned.

In terms of changes, I would feel that Anna would probably use her magic to help warm people up during the Eternal Winter. There's also a good chance that Anna being hit the heart with the magic could've not affected her. Maybe. Not sure how the magic works with other magical beings to be honest.

In F2, Elsa probably wouldn't be as defensive over Anna, since Anna can indeed protect herself. There's a good chance that Anna would've heard the siren voice as well, so they both would be on the same page of finding Ahtohallan. However, Anna might be a bit more reluctant, since she would still be struggling with change at this point.

We first need to discuss what exactly does 'fire powers' actually means.

Elsa, at the most basic level, is technically controlling Cold in itself. She is (in theory) freezing the air and water vapor around her to cause ice and snow to appear and create a winter season. With this ice and snow, she can create objects, solidify water memories, and weave the ice crystals into the fabric of her dresses to create the outfits.

If Anna only has fire powers, then no. She wouldn't really be able to create outfits. Fire isn't a solid to be able to morph with clothes. Thus, what you're actually wanting Anna to have is magical power over Heat. Which makes this a bit broad and still makes the object morphing a bit difficult.

In order for Anna to create things, she would have to melt something to be able to shape it. Like how you melt clay in order to create something. However, you get different results when you melt certain objects. Sand turns to glass, or rock turns to magma, for example. A glass or magma dress sounds painful to be honest.

There's also to option to melt her clothes and shape a new outfit I guess. But then, not every fabric type reacts the same way to heat. Some just turn to dust, and others are flame resistant to an extent.

I'm probably over thinking this, to be honest. There is the magical component involved, after all. If Anna could create her own outfits, I imagine it would look something like this -

Since Anna loves flowy ball gowns rather than the sleek dresses that Elsa likes to wear.

In terms of Anna reversing the winter - no. I don't think so. Jennifer Lee once implied her personal belief was that even if Hans killed her, the winter wouldn't stop. So, if Elsa's own death wouldn't end the winter, then I doubt Anna's magic could reverse it. Only Elsa could do it, and only when she felt love from others and herself.

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Delving into Hans' Sociopathy

Now that all that is out of the way, let's dive in.

Part 1: When Was This Confirmed?

Jennifer Lee first confirmed that Hans was a sociopath during an interview with John August and Aline Brosh McKenna of Scriptnotes, in Episode 128: Frozen with Jennifer Lee.

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Jennifer: Hans is a villain from the minute he hits her with the horse, in my mind. Aline: Really? Jennifer: But I am slightly a sociopath, I think. He’s just calculating from that moment.

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She later further confirmed this during a Q&A event with fans on Twitter (X), in response to a fan asking if Hans was ever a good guy during the early productions of Frozen.

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Santino Fontana, Hans' voice actor, also confirmed this in an interview. You can see this interview here, the Frozen segment lasts from approx. 15:35 - 19:35.

Santino Fontana: Yea, He's a good-looking guy. Also, a sociopath, but yea. - Broadwaycom, Show People With Paul Wontorek Interview

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Part 2: The Traits of ASPD (Sociopathy)

According to the DSM-5, those with ASPD are described with some of the following traits.

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M.E, a person with sociopathy, describes this behavior as “métier, or bread and butter” for those who have sociopathy.

Part 3: Hans' Behaviors Throughout the Film

Lacking Empathy

Let's focus on the more direct portrayals first.

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Direct instances of Lacking Empathy

Later on, Hans reveals to Elsa that Anna is 'dead'. When Elsa falls to the ground in anguish, he walks behind her with a smile on his face, ready to decapitate her until Anna intervenes.

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Subtle Instances of Lacking Empathy

The subtle instance of Hans showing a lack of empathy is how he lacks genuine awareness for people he supposedly loves. Hans says a lot of things, but doesn't really show it.

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As a small side point before moving on, I recognize that some disagree that this was his intention. I feel that the scene pretty much speaks for itself, with little room for interpretation.

Here we have Hans looking directly at the Weselton's Henchman, and then looking towards his crossbow.

Then, you see Hans change his gaze towards the ceiling, way above the henchman, straight at the chandelier, and keeps staring at it as he moves towards the henchman.

As we see here, in a different angle, he is directly aiming that crossbow towards the chandelier.

If you are a fan of A Frozen Heart, and include it with your personal canon, I have an fairly old analysis where I go into a lot of these concepts with the novel as well.

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Desire for Power

This one is fairly obvious - as Hans himself explains quite clearly his intentions for being kind to Anna and the people of Arendelle.

I think Hans is a tragic figure because he's a consequence of being raised without love. - Jennifer Lee, Reddit (2014)

Manipulation

However, right after the "just you?" line, suddenly things change.

It goes even further than this when he starts to mirror Anna. Here, I am exploring Love is an Open Door again from my analysis, with how Hans mirrors Anna.

A funny thing actually happens during Anna's announcement of their marriage. Hans is actually switching between trying to appeal to Elsa while also keeping up with Anna. Let me show you what I mean.

He completely stops mirroring Anna here, and goes straight into trying to appeal to Elsa and match her tone. Right after this, he goes back to expressing Anna’s sadness again.

"Do not question the Princess. She left me in charge, and I will not hesitate to protect Arendelle from treason!"

Remember what Jennifer Lee said in the Script Notes interview?

Hans pretty much switches between these three personalities throughout the film. Goofy and charming with Anna, stoic and heroic with Elsa and Arendelle, and confrontational with the Duke.

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Other Hans Analyses

New - These I have written recently and have updated info.

Irredeemable Monster - Should Hans Make a Return?

Meant to Be - Frozen's Secret Villain Song

Frozen in Fear - Comparing the antagonist's reactions towards magic.

Old - May have some ideas that have missing info and overall needs updating

Different Perspectives - Why a Frozen Heart does not Support a Redemption for Hans.

Wolf in Sheep's Clothing - Hints that lead to Hans' Betrayal

#Hans #Prince Hans #frozen #greatqueenanna/analysis #helsa #hanna

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GreatQueenAnna Tid-Bits # 8

Why Anna is the Fifth Spirit with Elsa

Wanted to make a quick Tid-Bit analysis on why it makes perfect sense that Anna was also written to be the Fifth Spirit.

In Frozen 2, there was this concept of Elsa taming the spirits to prove to them that either she was the magical person that they were waiting for, or possibly that she was worthy of their respect. We see her tame the Water, Fire, and Wind Spirits - all of which make sense to her character. Ice basically comes from both wind and water, and can overpower fire (not to mention that Bruni's fire is a bit more purple than red or orange, which is Elsa's color). I could go on as to why Elsa connects more deeply to these elements, but I want to focus on Anna.

If we take this idea and apply it to Anna, we see that she does the same things with different elements.

Anna in F1 -

Tames Elsa Herself - By fighting the elements, pushing to reconnect with Elsa, and sacrificing herself for her, Anna pretty much proves to Elsa that she loves and accepts her. Love and acceptance, regardless of differences and alliances, is a huge deal to Ahtohallan.

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Anna Tames the Earth Spirits - Anna challenges the Earth Giants and is able to use their powers to destroy the dam. This makes sense, since as the human aspect of the Fifth Spirit, Anna is more grounded, or coming from the Earth (many myths/religions connect humanity to dirt, dust, clay, etc.) You can also see this within her costume designs (she always wears Earthy tones, Green, Yellow, Black, etc.)

Anna Destroys the Dam - In line with her fairy tale role, Anna proves herself as the utmost example of humanity by sacrificing herself (she almost falls to her death) and her human-authority (the castle) in order to right the wrongs of the past. She humbles herself and puts the needs of everyone as a priority.

Now, let’s get into the Judaeo-Christian themes a bit. This seems a bit left-field, however, there’s actually this article that relates Elsa and Frozen 2 to having a biblical themes. The author has written a few articles on this subject. The article does mention Anna and adds her to the theme of the Fifth Spirit, but since the article focuses specifically on Elsa, I wanted to add on this other element that wasn't brought up.

There's a famous act within the Gospels, The Cleansing of the Temple. Within this story, Jesus expels, in a famously grand and angry way, the merchants and businesses from the holy Temple in Jerusalem. He then accuses the Temple authorities for stealing and causing the death of many people because they were taking resources away from the poor to sell them - going against the morals of God and his people. He then confidently states that he can destroy this Temple that took 46 years to built, and build it back up in 3 days.

Does this kind of sound familiar?

Anna does the same thing. Runeard and his dam were going against the morals of Arendelle - causing the pain and genocide of a group of people for power and authority.

Anna: That's my grandfather, attacking the Northuldra leader who wields no weapon. The Dam wasn't a gift of peace. It was a trick. Olaf: But that goes against everything Arendelle stands for. Anna: It does, doesn't it? I know how to free the forest. I know what we have to do. To set things right. Olaf: Why do you say that so sadly? Anna: We have to break the Dam. Olaf: But Arendelle will be flooded. Anna: That's why everyone was forced out. To protect them from what has to be done.

Here, we see Anna and Olaf talking about Arendelle's morals and what they need to do. Anna needs to 'cleanse the temple' and build it back up again. While in the movie Arendelle doesn't actually fall, there is a thematic change that happens when Anna is willing to do it, and then represents this cultural change when she has the statue of her parents built. She is willing to cleanse Arendelle and bring it back to its morals and beliefs and peace and the good for all.

We'll always live in a kingdom of plenty, that stands for the good of the many.

In this deleted scene, with the concept of Anna actually succeeding in destroying the castle, Anna also proclaims confidently that she can rebuilt the castle to be a better version of itself.

"We'll rebuilt the castle. New. No secrets. No deceit. New rules even." - Anna, deleted Frozen 2 Scene.

TLDR: Anna being the Fifth Spirit as well makes sense within the narrative, thematically, and shows how Elsa and Anna are connected and their roles are important to the balance of human and nature. They are both the bridge.

#anna #frozen 2 #greatqueenanna/tid bits #Princess Anna #fifth spirit #frozen #Queen Anna

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