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So... Watcher...

How are we feeling?

I was a Patreon, cancelled the day this all happened. I contacted them since they're offering free subscription to their streamer for active members (technically I'm still active until May 1st).

But I don't know if I'll feel comfortable restarting my patreon subscription. Especially because to use the promo code you have to sign up to their platform, so you have to give credit card info. Granted the cost is then $0.00 but I have this deduction in my bank (blurred the string of numbers at the end):

I assume this is an international fee but , even though it's small, this means it's not a free membership for me.

Also its only a 3 month subscription which is fine, I would assume they are worried where they'll be in 3 days let alone 3 months. My guess is the streamer will be abandoned by then.

But...

I haven't gone to their new platform since I signed up which makes me think I probably won't continue watching which is very, very sad. Watching them feels different now in a way I don't like. Hopefully that goes away over time but I don't know if it will.

#watcher #watcher entertainment

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Taylor Swift | Blank Space + Fortnight

I think I'm behind on literally every single reference, but this one I really love. Especially since in the first one SHE takes the pill ("ooh, candy!"), in the second she begrudgingly takes it ("ugh...fine. if it'll get me outta here.").

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#taylor swift #taylorswift #ttpd #the tortured poets department #tswiftdaily #taylor nation #katmakesgifs

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Guys, guys, guys, guys.....

Swifties, Swifties, Swifties!!!!!

Swifties, guys, swifities, guys guys guys guys..........

Its called "Peter" because.........

"Peter losing Wendy".....

Honestly me catching up to what are not even subtle references is legit embarrassing to myself as a Swiftie.

#Taylor swift #ttpd era #ttpd #taylor #taylornation #taylor nation #swifties #clueless #These clear as a bell references #Honestly #straight over my head

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Watcher google drive

i think the title is pretty self explanitory

Only ghost files on it atm but Mystery Files and Puppet History are next. Watcher has back pedalled on deleteing all their free content to lock it behind a pay wall but y'know what? maybe I just dont want to give them ad revenue anymore, which is evil but screw them. Also they may still back pedal on their back pedalling, which is to many pedals anyways.

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Ok, but I can't shake the feeling that The Try Guys might be joining the Watcher TV platform...

Clue 1: The most recent Try Guys video included Sam Reich from Dropout (which I had never heard of, but I discovered is an ad-free subscription service started by College Humor).

Clue 2: They are both comprised of former Buzzfeed employees and have appeared in each other's videos.

Clue 3: Try Guys team members social media have been as silent as Watcher during this time. The main players from both Watcher and Try Guys follow each other on most social medias. None of them are posting anything. Clue 4: 3 days ago, Try Guys gave us an updated timeline of their schedule for this year, note "The Event" is coming SOON. Watcher had a countdown for a Major Announcement with the caption "Something Big Is Coming".

I mean, I'm probably wrong. I'm sure I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I have to be wrong.

EDIT AS OF 22 APRIL:

Clue 5: According to this reddit post, someone (maybe TryGuys, maybe not) registered the domain tryguys.tv in Feb 2024 - the same month as Watcher TV acquired their new domain.

So...

Maybe The Try Guys are also going to launch a streaming service???

EDIT AS OF APRIL 23RD

Clue 6: Today Try Guys promoting a video of Zach and Keith appearing on a Dropout TV show.

So, maybe Try Guys are joining the Drop-out TV crew?? Pretty solid move and makes sense for them financially. As long as there's no sudden pay wall...

#watcher #watcher entertainment #try guys #the try guys

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and the nominees for most cursed celeb brand marketing are:

drew barrymore in “what if we pretended there was no strike”

selena gomez in “supporting an apartheid Zionist state on main”

jlo in “it’s less of a movie and more of a visual album”

justin timberlake in “gaslight world tour”

and the guys from Watcher in “ratio 2: anticapitalist faves™️ launch a cash cow entertainment app”

#Okay but this funny

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Taylor Swift | Story Of Us + Fortnight

I feel like she's also mouthing the lyrics, "I used to think one day I'd tell the story of us..."

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#taylor swift #the tortured poets department #ts ttpd #fortnight #post malone #taylor nation #tsdaily #tswiftdaily #tswiftedit #katmakesgifs

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My Watcher take that no one asked for:

I cannot afford $6 a month.

This equates to roughly $9AUD (rounded down) in my currency.

That means I can't afford to watch new Watcher content despite having watched since Buzzfeed.

It's not that we are (necessarily) unwilling, we are UNABLE to pay.

So fans without the funds to afford this are being not-so-subtley told their viewership isn't wanted because its valueless.

And that's a very hard concept to reconcile.

#watcher #watcher entertainment #steven lim #shane madej #ryan bergara #and yes #I have a paying job

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You make excellent points and please don't take this as an insult - but for me the issue is that it's $6 a month.

I cannot afford it.

That means I can't watch new Watcher content despite having watched since Buzzfeed.

So fans without the funds to afford this are being not-so-subtley told their viewership isn't wanted because its valueless. And that's a very hard concept to reconcile.

long (like ridiculously long) rant about watcher entertainment

Whilst the vast majority of the response to the watcher drama has been negative I still have seen a few people expressing opinions along the lines of ‘oh its just $6’  ‘shouldn't creators be paid for their work’ etc. I also think this situation is getting a lot of attention from people who don't necessarily watch Watcher, or haven’t keep up with them in years so here is my breakdown of why people are unhappy with the announcement that Watcher will be putting ALL upcoming content behind a $6 a month streaming service (with the exception of the premiere episode of each season going to Youtube.) 

The issue is not that it's $6.

The success of other internet companies like dropout and smosh is proof people are willing to pay for content they enjoy and to support independent content creators. I personally have given money to kickstarters, patreons, digital downloads etc in the past. But I do that because I know I’m valued as a fan with and without my money. I still get access to content on youtube for free. Even Dropout, who is a much larger and more expensive operation than Watcher, releasing 5 show a week, still maintains a steady Youtube presence.

The thing with these internet companies is they can be successful in creating something but they do have to understand that you are on the internet. You're not netflix or HBO or hulu or whatever. Watcher’s obsession with creating ‘television-calibre content’ worth $6 a month whilst also only having one show a week is unrealistic. They want to be independent creators but also television producers… but you’re not!  They hate being youtubers so much but YOU ARE. That’s how you gained a fanbase in the first place and you were successful at it! If you’re not happy being a youtuber that’s fine, move on and do something else. But you can’t expect it to be funded by the fans. So many famous artists create content they care less about that has a larger audience, and that in turn funds the stuff they DO care about. If you’re so dedicated to making expensive, high-quality productions you should be using these smaller cheaper shows to save money and fund them, rather than forcing everyone of your fans to pay a monthly subscription fee that I’m sorry, just isnt worth it or is simply unaffordable for the majority of your audience who you have now essentially told aren’t welcome or valued by you. And which one is it? 

Such a large percentage of your audience are casual viewers too. Why cut out that completely? What fans are you expecting to follow you to this ? Your most dedicated fans are there because they like Ryan and Shane, so why not push that? Are you trying to appeal to your fans or are you trying to make the content you want. There’s no clear creative direction that makes sense with this move and that’s why people aren’t supporting you. 

Also I’m sorry but how can we suddenly trust the content is gonna improve once we start funding it when there’s already been so many missteps both in their content and their business. Look at how many fans have said Ghost Files and Mystery Files have started feeling phoned in. Their patreon has been mismanaged for years, they barely promote it and the perks on there aren't really worth it (but they have 6000 paying members because people can and do want to support them!). They go months having barely any merch. There are ways to make money on youtube, they’re just not doing it well . 

And I’m sorry. But there is just absolutely no reason to have 25 employees. Shows like Survival mode should be cheap and easy to produce, and help bring in money to support larger ventures like ghost files. So why are there 18 people credited for a video of you playing Minecraft? And of course I don’t want people to lose their jobs. But continuing with this is going to cause EVERYONE to lose their jobs regardless. 

They also barely have a plan for their new content. People watch for Ryan and Shane, you KNOW THAT. So why is your first new big show hiring the worth it boys and doing a globe-trotting, crazily expensive show. Are you even really expanding your content if you’re still sticking to a one-video-a-week schedule with no present plan to change that? They have a survey for subscribers to vote which past show to bring back, but there’s obviously a major budget difference between filming something like Weird Wonderful World and something like SD&D&D… or at least there should be but there isn't when you employ 20 people to make one video. There’s such a clear lack of thought put into it that makes me even less likely to want to support. 

I want to say that they probably expected a negative backlash and thought they could just wait it out… but did they? Because WHY did they hype this up like it was an insane new announcement fans would go wild for. WHY do this several days before you have live shows where you let fans ask questions live to your faces? So much of this roll out makes absolutely no sense and makes Ryan, Shane, and Steve look so ridiculously out-of-touch with their fanbase, which only makes fans feel even less supportive. 

I think their defenders think we want to see Watcher crash and burn but the majority of us don't. I want them to be successful but this isn't the way to do it and I truly do believe it’s going to ruin their company. Unfortunately as much as I love them, I wont be supporting them. 

#watcher #watcher entertainment #ryan bergara #shane madej #steven lim

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i lied abt only posting abt this situation once, i just saw this lovely person’s comment!! passing it on to tumblr 🫡

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imagine if this is all a really elaborate set up for an ARG where demons have possessed all them. that would go so hard actually. can that be scheduled for monday? i would literally take back all the things i said if they did that lmao

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Holly Marie Combs as Piper Halliwell in every episode ➣ Charmed 1x19 • Out Of Sight

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Charmed | Quotes | Prue | 1x19 Taglist: @holyhalliwells, @phoebehalliwell, @dailycharmedgifs, @wearethecharmedones, @charmedxfanforum, @briannabowen, @raith-way, @this-is-my-bisexuality

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Prue Halliwell in every episode ➣ Charmed 2x09 • Ms. Hellfire Taglist: @holyhalliwells, @phoebehalliwell, @dailycharmedgifs, @wearethecharmedones, @charmedxfanforum, @briannabowen, @raith-way, @this-is-my-bisexuality

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Charmed | Paige being a mood | 4.04 "Enter The Demon"

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Prue Halliwell in every episode ➣ Charmed 2x16 • Murphy's Luck

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