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#♡bob Slander
sorcerous-caress · 4 months
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Hi! I really admire the way you write bg3 charas and I was curious about your opinion- what you think about the polyamory options in the game? iirc Shadowheart and Astarion are open to it- Shadowheart at least is enthusiastic about poly with Halsin and a four/fivesome with the drows at Sharess’s Caress, I’ve seen mixed interpretations of Astarion’s reactions. Karlach I think? Says she’s open to it but due to circumstance wants a closed relationship. (Halsin ofc is very openly poly.)
Do you think any of the comps could conceivably have and enjoy a healthy poly relationship outside of what we see in game, and (toying the line of bobcourse {bob discourse} and it’s totally fine if you don’t want to touch that) (actually it’s totally fine if you don’t feel like answering this in general; please don’t feel pressured by this monster of an ask!!) do you think the ones we have rn are healthy? 👀 Sorry if you’ve talked about this already!
(Btw the theme looks great! Diarrhea never came to mind at all)
Thank you so much <3 This means a lot.
Okay, just to be clear, poly isn't having threesomes and vice versa, so I don't think we should use their willingness to have the orgy in Sharess's Caress as a frame of reference. Because the drow twins are two strangers and not people they're in a poly relationship with.
Poly relationships don't require having sex. They're like any other relationship, just with more people. AroAce people can be poly too.
Also, I think the reason we don't have poly ingame besides Halsin, which was a last edition, is because Larian ran out of time and budget. They'd have to make whole new scenes with whole new dialogue trees and animations.
And keep in mind that they're characters, just tools and dolls. Not real people. You can headcanon them all as poly, and it's valid.
Anyway, so here is my opinion who is and who isn't poly ingame.
There are monogamous exlusive characters who make it very clear they don't want poly: Gale, Minthara and maybe Lae'zel
There are some who show being poly but can't due to circumstances and the current options of people: Shadowheart, Karlach, and Astarion.
Side note, I really don't believe that theory going around about how Astarion was only willing to be poly with Halsin because "high elves don't take relationships with wood elves seriously". Maybe if this was dos2 then sure, but Larian really removed most of these things in Baldur's Gate 3.
It feels like cherry-picking. If we are going with this old representation of high elves, then based on that, he'd never be with any non-high elf Tav, not even human. Astarion agreed to share with Halsin because he is clearly comfortable with him. It feels belittling and insulting to both of their queerness to even consider this theory. Especially with how his past lover was a whole drow, you really think a high elf who is racist against wood elves would consider loving a drow if this was the case?
This leaves Wyll, which... honestly, I'm not sure how to categorise him.
Wyll is selfless. He always assumes you're going to choose the other person in Act 2 and bids you farewell, saying how the dance you shared will be a nice memory.
He focuses on his love for you, not owning you, not being possessive, but genuine overflowing love and poems. I think Wyll might be open to being poly but not just with anyone, it would have to be someone he loves as deeply as you.
*cough* Karlach Tav Wyll poly *cough* WE WERE ROBBED
Also, you were very kind and polite in your ask. It's really refreshing <3. Thank you for being so understanding and thoughtful.
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moonstruckme · 4 months
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Hello lovely! I LOVED your Sirius x coquette reader and was wondering if you could do an Eddie Munson x coquette reader as well! 👀
Hi sweetheart, thank you for requesting!
cw: smutty implications (?)
Eddie Munson x fem!reader ♡ 968 words
You’re trying to keep your teeth from chattering, as if Eddie can’t feel your entire body quivering as you press yourself close to his side. 
“Ethically, I don’t think I can let you go on like this,” he says. “You’ve gotta take my jacket, baby.” 
“I appreciate the offer,” your reply is a well-rehearsed line, “but I’m fine, thank you.” 
“Yeah, you seem great. You’re shaking like a chihuahua.” 
“Your jacket,” you chitter, “wouldn’t go with my outfit. We’re almost there anyway.” 
You’re several blocks away, but you grip his arm and speed up your steps, and Eddie follows. He doesn’t see what’s so wrong with his jean jacket. At least it’s thick. The wind has to be going right through that little cardigan of yours and he knows the floral tights, while adorable, aren’t helping. You’re practically jogging by the time you get to the bar. Eddie ushers you in, and you release a great shudder. 
“Christ, it’s freezing out there. Since when did Hawkins enter the ice age?” 
Eddie rubs your arms through your sweater, steering you both out of the way of traffic entering and exiting the bar. “It’s winter, genius. What did you think was going to happen?” 
“My cardigan was good enough yesterday,” you mutter. Then shake your head, seemingly making the conscious decision to perk up. “Anyway, it’s fine. How long do you have before you go on?” 
He grins, sheepish. “Actually, we’re a little late. I should get back there as soon as I get you set up.” 
Your eyes flare and your mouth forms a pretty O. “You should go! I can set myself up.” 
“Are you sure?” He glances towards the stage. He can see his bandmates moving around in the back. “I can at least get you a seat and a drink.” 
“Go,” you insist, shoving him (lovingly, he hopes) away from you. “I’ll be fine.” 
Eddie knows better than to try to argue with you; your cutesy, innocent appearance does not translate to a lack of backbone. He finds his bandmates backstage, weathers the slew of ensuing slander and complaints about his tardiness, and a short time later he’s leading them onstage. 
The meager crowd shouts and stomps at their arrival, mostly friends of friends and a few groupies they’ve picked up at other gigs. Eddie grins and soaks in the energy, but his eyes are elsewhere. 
It’s not hard to spot you. He’ll always think you look out of place in a joint like this. You’ve found a barstool and are sitting with your legs crossed primly in those dainty fucking tights, a bright spot amidst the sea (or, if Eddie’s beng realistic, small lake. Smattering of ponds.) of dark clothing around you. Everyone, including Eddie, has a beer in hand, but somehow you’ve managed to sweet-talk the bartender into making you what appears to be a shirley temple. You pop a cherry in your mouth, curving your lips around it to pluck out the stem and sending Eddie a wink. He reads it as Knock ‘em dead, hot stuff. (You’ve never specifically called him hot stuff before, but he can imagine it if he likes.)
You don’t flinch like you used to at the first booming chord. You’re not a mosher and don’t go to join the crowd, but Eddie catches you bobbing your head and tapping your foot as you sip from your straw. He plays his fucking heart out, thinking about tearing those tights off you (he knows you’ll never let him, you like them too much) and putting his mouth on all the spots where you spritz perfume. When you lock eyes, you give him a smile like you can read his thoughts. 
Playing to a crowd like this, being up on a stage, this is the shit Eddie lives for—and it’s not over soon enough. 
He packs up their equipment in record time, hustling over to the bar. You squeak as he wraps his arm around your waist, swooping you off your seat. 
“Hey,” you say, tilting your head back to see him. You sound endearingly breathless. “I saved you some cherries.” 
“Yes! That’s my girl.” He opens his mouth, letting you place it inside and closing his teeth so you pull the stem out for him. You do it willingly, but a flush spreads across your cheeks. “Thanks, sweet thing.” 
“No problem,” you reply, not quite able to look at him.
Eddie repents, curling a finger under your chin to tilt your head up and giving you a smile that says Okay, I’ll stop playing for now. 
You return his smile, relieved. “Want more? The bartender gave me a bunch extra, so.” 
He reverses course instantly. 
“What a fucking flirt.” He peers around you, eyeing the not-hideous twenty-something passing out beers behind the bar. “He thinks he’s gonna steal my girl.” 
“I doubt it,” you laugh. “I told him my boyfriend’s in the band.” 
Eddie grins, fiendish. “Good.” He gets in close, making his voice sweet and smooth as honey. “I’ve been thinking. You got some pretty panties under that getup, sweetheart?” 
Your eyes widen a second before you scrunch them shut, dropping your head to his chest. You say something into his shirt. 
“What was that? Couldn’t hear you.” 
You look up, grimacing. “You know I do,” you mumble. 
A low laugh rumbles through Eddie’s chest. “Just wanted to check,” he says, immensely entertained by the agitated coloring of your face. “I think it’s time we hit the road, baby. Y’ready?” 
You hum, picking up your bag and grabbing a cherry for the road. Despite your show of reluctance, there’s a bit of pep in your step as you start towards the exit. 
Eddie shrugs off his bulky jean jacket, dropping it on your shoulders. “You’re gonna need that.”
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sorcerous-caress · 5 months
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You're right and I know you are but I actually got so upset that I am now violently sick. I am literally only sharing this because I am fairly certain you're also autistic and BPD but I hate so much that like the one time in mainstream media we are given a bi/pan man who is effeminate and prefers men but isn't a derogatory stereotype but every post about him is like He’s The Most Masculine, Actually and actually the reason we don't see him express attraction to women is because he's so shy actually ignore that he can hookup with Laezel who would not stand for that and is main character trait is confident (and I don't think I've started fights so at least there's that)
I used to not understand the problem with the Astarion fandom but then I came to painful realization he has straight fans who actually seem to hate his canon character
Anyway sorry for all the Bobstarion… gay bpd bitches are gay bpd bitching. You're the best for reading this tho 😭💀💚
I know this feeling very well anon.
You've completely summed it up, he is finally a non-derogatory representation of an effeminate queer man and straight fans burnt his canon to the ground so they can make their dream masculine babyboy shy twink.
God it fucking stings doesn't it? It literally hurts just to think about how much Larian risked by even putting Astarion in the game. A western game at that too where forum after forum are full of incels complaining about women not being inflatable sex objects in their game.
Baldur's gate 2 and 1 never was this inclusive, it was strictly hetro except for the remastered npcs. Astarion by himself probably made them lose half their "old-school" homophonic demographic.
And the fandom takes all of that and makes him another fucking joke of a character? All the people who have never played the game would search up the Astarion tag and get a completely wrong impression of him.
Not once did a character before him made me leave a game because I was disgusted with myself. His storyline and writing is phenomenal because I too objectified him at the start then the game called me out for it in act 3 and it changed my world view so much.
God did you know early access had Gale and Wyll be awkward if a male Tav hits on them? That only Astarion was the always accepting person regardless of gender?
Even now he is still the only male character between the two who openly expresses his interest in men! Who embraces being flamboyant and doesn't try to fit into a narrative.
I completely understand anon, and I know how much bpd and autism highlights these feelings and make them dig like nails at your brain. Yes I have them too. And I'm glad you feel comfortable enough to share your thoughts with me.
It must be more frustrating for you tho, for liking Astarion and being lumped in with the rest of his weird fans without your consent. You can't even filter their posts out because they treat their takes as "normal" and how it's not them belittling a queer character no! They're just being "wholesome"
Fuck the batstarion shit still gets on my nerves. I saw one with a baby bottle feeding him??? It just feels so infantilising because he isn't some cute animal he is a fully grown and matured person. If it's just a kink then sure idc but please tag it at least.
Then they make him "shy" around women. You know why that god awful take was probably born? Because most of his straight fans picked women and went into his romance. So they think that his clumsy personality in act 2 is because they're a woman and he is so used to men.
It's fucking disgusting, Astarion would treat both men and women with the same clumsy romance, all my Tavs were nonbinary and he never treated them differently.
You have every right to feel this way, you have every right to be furious at this. Especially with a character you care about so much.
But people will take advantage of that, people who want to start fights for the sake of fights or drama blogs who are itching to make a callout post. People don't like others poking holes in their logic no matter how good your intentions are.
Homophobia exists, racism too, look at how ignored Wyll is by these supposed fans. Look at how popular Gale x Astarion is than x Wyll because both of them are white.
It's okay to vent and it's okay to feel frustrated and stuck. God knows during some bpd episodes I come very close to deleting this blog bc of the smallest of reasons, so Imagine actually having a valid reason to be mad like you.
Take a step back, fuck those people honestly. Fuck anyone who ever did this shit just for their own self indulgence, who left all the media that panders to straight people and came and took Astarion too just to strip him of all of his traits and put him in the hetro box.
So leave them be, they suck, they're shitty and never willing to listen. Don't waste your frustration on them, it's better to yell at a wall, at least, unlike them, it might reply back with something productive one of those days.
Again, I hope you feel better soon. I genuinely do, these feelings suck beyond words can describe. Do something you like or revisit your favourite works that stay true to Asterion's character. Ground yourself with anything that might help.
Don't feed them or reply to their arguments, please. hopefully, they leave the fandom once the new manufactured tumblr sexyman is released and the Asterion tag.
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sorcerous-caress · 5 months
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Semi-related to the bob debacle I really hate pepole that label the companions as ayersexual/tavsexual they are all queer individuals! That shouldn’t be erased and ignored but it especially egregiously for poor Bob who canonically has male love interest.
Especially when it's people who never paid attention to his dialogue or done his romance who claim that bobtarion isn't queer with a clear preference for men.
People can't deal with bi/pan characters fr. They either claim he never liked men bc they didn't see it, so it must have never happened! So he is straight in their views.
Or people who ignore the word "preference" and instead run to the hills with the rest of the sentence, claiming he is strickly gay and any bobtarion ships with women and non-men are homophobic.
I'm literally bi with clear preference for men, yet I've mostly dated women. Being bi with preference isn't hetro/gay with extra spice.
Like I genuinely believe that even in a world where playersexual wasn't the norm, bobtarion would still be queer and like all genders.
The playersexual thing started as a good thing in games, especially with their accidental inclusiveity by making everyone and their grandma bi or pan. But now people are using it as a cheap excuse to erease character's queerness?
Saying the company is just pandering to the audience and not actually being inclusive so you should definitely believe their headcanon when they tell you this character is straight/gay and ignore the canon.
Like fuck dude why are you walking backwards? Even if that theory was correct, why erease the accidental queer representation??? Why force this biphobia on something because the company may not have had the purest intentions.
Also just so we are clear, Larian doesn't do playersexual, not until Divinity 2 and Baldur's Gate 3. All their old games besides it had a romance restriction based on gender.
So I genuinely believe they actually meant it in a queer way when they made the characters attracted to all genders. Because they never did it before in any other Baldur's Gate game! They had no reason or expectation to do it now. They're not in it just for the money either because Baldur's Gate was a cult classic rather than a known title like Assassin's creed. The game in early access flew under the radar for so many years! And all characters were queer since day fucking one!
And each character expresses some of their queerness in their own way. The most vocal about it is bobtarion, so it's so fucking wild to me how people go "actually it's problematic of you to assume he is queer just bc he is flamboyant" my brother in christ what plane of existence do you live on? Did we play the same game?? When did him being flamboyant or feminine ever come up in this conversation of his queerness? I swear half these people didn't even bother playing the game, and the other half never did his romance.
No one is "headcanoning" bobtarion as bi and queer bc we saw a hint of eyeliner on his upperlid. We literally know he is queer bc he metaphorically is screaming it at the top of his lungs during all of the acts. He literally flirts with Wyll and Gale during Act 1 so many times.
Shadowheart hits on Karlach! Which is besides the point, but I felt like bringing it up because she too gets treated as "fanon lesbian but canon hetro" character when she is so fucking bi/pan in canon.
People are so used to companies never including queer characters that they are ereasing actual queer representation by lumping it as merely "playersexual pandering" and belitting their queerness by claiming it's just headcanons when it is in the fucking game in canon.
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sorcerous-caress · 5 months
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I'm making enemies in the Bobstarion fandom for talking about his queerness I thought that was why we were attracted to him
Honestly I think you should just let them be. It's the Internet, people will interpret things wrong to fit their narrative all the time.
Bob isn't real at the end of the day. He's just a tool, a doll to tell a story. And if they'd rather take the doll to play with and throw the story away, then no one else can change their views.
Enjoy what you like and ignore the things you don't. It's okay to complain and express our frustration about Astarion misinterpretation as long as we do it in our own circle and bubble yk? I wouldn't go to others posts or blogs or try to tell them their take is wrong or bad.
Be the change you want to see. Write your own takes and interpretation about him and like-minded people who share your opinion will see it and realise they too aren't alone in this.
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sorcerous-caress · 5 months
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Can we please tag the Bob discourse for filter? I’m so tired of seeing people discoursing about him everywhere I turn and I love to curate my experience by using filters/tag blacklists. I just want to enjoy porn and peoples pretty OCs but wading through the bobcourse to find it is tiring.
Omfg, you really think my OC is pretty?? <333🪻🌻🌷🐛
Also is this about my blog? Because yeah you have a point. I should tag the discourse posts for the people who don't wanna participate in it.
Alright there will be 4 Astarion tags.
♡Astarion - for fics/drabbles/memes
♡Astarion Slander - for playful digs, nothing serious.
♡bob - for anonymity when I don't want the post to show up in his search results.
♡bob Slander - for all Astarion discourse.
It will take some days to go back through my posts and tag them correctly, also I need to figure out how to link this post in a clear obvious spot for new people to find and filter their tags too.
I already use the ♡ filter, so I don't show up in any of the characters main tags, only my "offical" works do.
Tldr: blacklist "#♡bob slander" to avoid elf on the shelf discourse <3
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sorcerous-caress · 5 months
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Your OC is soooooo pretty <33 And the OCs of everyone else who submits them are so pretty too, I want to smooch them all 😍
And I’m sorry if the prior ask about tagging came off as mean or snarky, I’m just really tired and stressed out by all the discourse back and forth on both Twitter and Tumblr. I really enjoy your blog and the thing that you write, I also just really wanna bow out of the discourse. I can achieve that through black listing tags because I know it’s ultimately up to me to curate my own experiences, which is why I more humbly beg on my knees than demand tags for the bobstarion discourse <3
Hey, it's alright, I never saw it as snarky dw. I'm grateful for your apology still. It was very nice of you to come back to reassure me.
Because yeah, you had a very valid point in it, I should tag these things for anyone who wants to blacklist them. And I'm happy to hear you like my blog <3 thank you so much.
I already tagged the ones I could find with " #♡bob Slander " do tell me if I missed any and I'll fix it asap.
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