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applestruda · 3 months
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Im going to be insane on saturday ill never shut up
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TL;DR: I’m Fucking Pissed at So-Called Open-Minded Witches Rn. Prepare for a Long-AF Rant.
OK! For those who don’t know me, I’m the sort of person who doesn’t usually make these sorts of posts, because I like to keep my head below the drama. However, when I see those who claim to be open-minded and the sort towards new witchlings or general pagans; but leave out the fact that if you happen to believe or respect any sort of Christian belief or God, you’re basically fake—is the moment that I really stop giving a fuck about who the hell grows offended.
Observe! An arrogant woman, who seems to believe that she has the right to post something as controversial as the topic that we’ll be discussing today, within a Facebook group that consists of witches & pagans in a very wide age span—without receiving any sort of backlash, or comments against her belief:
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Seems innocent enough, right? It isn’t uncommon that old practitioners of the craft tend to be a little more hostile towards the modern craft, due to the fact that they follow very sacred beliefs that have been questioned or judged at every twist and turn. || Christian Witches? Pfft! What a silly idea. || Sarcasm.
Before I continue, I’d like to state the obvious disclaimer that the trigger happy folks of tumblr will undoubtedly ignore, but to those who actually read this entire post before hopping onto the bandwagon of sending one person a ton of hate:
I am completely open-minded towards the argument that this woman is creating, because I would be a hypocrite if I said that I haven’t been a tad extreme with my opinions of change within communities separate to the witch community. HOWEVER! The thing I do not agree with here, is the continued spite and discriminative behaviour that this woman expresses towards all Christians & their beliefs. She has the right to her opinions, but she doesn’t have the right to dictate what makes a witch; what makes a pagan; and she certainly doesn’t have the right to claim that this new age bullshit isn’t allowed to shelter under the huge umbrella term that is Paganism.
Right! Now that I’ve gotten the classic disclaimer that nobody will probs read out of the way, I’ll continue with this post; because I want to defend the innocent and curious Christians who stumble onto our beliefs. I want to tell them that all of them are accepted, in my eyes and the eyes of many other witches/pagans, and that people like this have no right to make them feel unaccepted & upset. And by the Gods, I want to let people know that I’m fucking pissed with this sort of behaviour—and I never thought that I’d actually have anything other than the classic jokes about all of tumblr being trigger happy, but the majority of the blogs that I follow on this site; are very accepting towards Christians, and craft.
And those blogs are generally run by amazing people, who may follow beliefs that are as old as time itself; or may be those excitable lot that Grumpy Ol’ Free rolls her eyes at b/c apparently there’s an entirely new branch of magick that has just been discovered, and Free is too fuckin exhausted with her own branches of craft to start looking into another—but I appreciate your positivity! And I appreciate your acceptance towards change, because...let’s be real here; our religion is one that is all about change, experimenting & constant learning.
And to those who might not be acceptant towards Christians practising your beliefs; I understand! I understand your distaste, or your concerns, I really do. Speaking as an autistic member of society, I’ve always been sceptical towards neurotypicals; I’ve straight out hated the idea of being anything other than a lil tolerable towards them—and I still hate it when NTs attempt to get involved with autistic culture, purely because I’ve experienced all sorts of abuse and discrimination for something that I cannot control. Regardless, I appreciate those who are respectful; which goes for the majority of witches & pagans in this community—you don’t agree with it, but you aren’t sending anon hate to every Christian; Muslim; or whatever who happens to be practising our craft. And I can respect that! The majority of those who disagree with the acceptance are very respectful & get on with their lives; but are given a very bad name by people like the woman above—who refuses to be respectful, kind or anything other than spiteful & hostile. And thus, I happen to be real fuckin’ pissed rn. xP
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“First of all did you miss the traditional part. Oh I believe you did, and I’m speaking of true pagans. Heatheans!”
*Deep breath* First of all, traditional paganism branches to a number of different beliefs; Roman—Norse—Celtic, and there are a number of others. (To those who have more information on the topic, I do encourage you to comment where you believe my own personal knowledge on the situation is incorrect or has worded information incorrectly; I won’t be mad—I’ll appreciate your help!) From my own knowledge on the term heathen; the word was originally used as a derogatory term against the invading Vikings, due to their lack of faith within the Christian God—and their multiple statements towards having multiple gods. Over time, it has grown into a word to describe multiple different religions or beliefs; though the most infamous would be those who follow Norse Paganism.
The term pagan was also used; but again, was a derogatory term against them. According to Google (where I place my trust, because I lost my dictionary, rip), the definitions of pagan and heathen are the ones that I’m about to share below, though I’d like to state that the terms are vastly used for multiple religions, etc. I’m honestly just stating them so that we’re all on the same page:
Pagan, Noun: A person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions. || Synonyms: Heathen, Agnostic, Sceptic, Athiest.
Heathen, Noun: A person who does not belong to a widely held religion; especially one who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim. // A follower of a polytheistic religion: a pagan. || Synonyms: Pagan, Atheist, Agnostic.
Note: Google has also listed Heathen as a derogatory term, I’d just like to note. Of course, it doesn’t have to be; and I’ve personally considered myself to be Heathen on a number of occasions, but I’d just like to note.
*Cough cough* Of course, I can see the argument that this woman is bringing into the situation. Christianity is not listed as a synonym for either definition; and therefore that must mean that Christians are incapable of being accepted. Fair enough, I guess she has defeated me; by the old Gods and the new, I admit that this woman has caught me out—and this entire post...is pointless. *Gets prepared to delete the whole post, and pretend that I was never upset* But wait! To those who happened to take careful note of what this woman said in the first picture, I hope you noticed the one crucial thing this woman stated:
“A True Traditional Witch is Pagan!”
Oh boy, am I glad that the internet is running smoothly at the minute; because there is nothing that I love more, than adding more definitions to close a witch bitch down. Not that she’ll ever see it, but who cares? A small portion of my 42 followers will probably see it, so at least the hate will be minimal, am I right? :p
Witch, Noun: A woman thought to have magic powers, especially evil ones; popularly depicted as wearing a black cloak, pointed hat and flying on a broomstick. // A follower or practitioner of Wicca or of modern withcraft. || Synonyms: Sorceress, Enchantress, Necromancer, Wiccan.
We won’t go into the definition of Wiccan; because this post is long enough, without going into explicit detail the difference between Wiccans and every other path that happens to fall under the umbrella that is Paganism. Plus, I ‘ve already pissed off enough people with this post; I don’t need to upset those lot, too—because my life is hexed enough as is...I don’t need y’all coming for me. :p
Anyway, onto this undoubtedly confusing post that is the longest ‘fuck you and your shitty discriminative opinion’ to some woman who will never see this post; this woman believes that true and traditional witches are Pagan—but does anyone notice that the synonyms for Pagan & Witch are missing each other? This all falls back to the usual info that we all hand to new witches or pagans: you don’t have to be Pagan to be a witch, and the same info goes vice versa. So no, traditional witches don’t have to be Pagan; it all comes down to choice. Witches can be whoever the fuck they want; and whilst the most popular choice is to follow the Wiccan path, that doesn’t cut out the possibility of other choices. So! Christian Witches are very much possible, and are very much allowed; they aren’t some stain that you can wash out with elbow grease and discrimination.
In my opinion, as long as everyone is respectful & not shoving opinions down everyone else’s throats about their beliefs and such; I don’t really give a fuck. However, this woman (and her merry lil’ group of admins who are close-minded AF; yet claim to be the opposite) caught my attention, because she is not only spiteful towards those who are Christian Witches; but towards those who are attempting to be open-minded and supportive of Christian Witches. Honestly, if she was stating her opinions in a more mature way; rather than behaving as though she has the power to dictate and control, I wouldn’t really give a damn. However, since she isn’t; the woman is getting a tumblr post made about her. 😊
Props to Lena & Inannas for attempting to communicate their thoughts, and defend those who aren’t allowed to defend themselves without having a shit storm brought onto them by people like this, in a mature & informative way. Y’all have my respect, especially because you didn’t fall into her baiting. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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