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#Andor is great at writing a spy thriller
julietwiskey1 · 1 year
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Season 3 of Amazon Primes Jack Ryan was a major disappointment to me. I was unable to even finish watching it. Mostly because it was a rather poor depiction of how Tom Clancy wrote stories and had no understanding of any of the characters from the books. Along with not writing a story in the vain or a Jack Ryan story.
Yet I found another show that does a really good job at depicting the type of plots that would fit Tom Clancy. It is Andor. How the story progress and grows as the character touches others was great. It was a great spy thriller. No character felt overly important.
But it is important to say that Jack Ryan is not Cassian Andor, Cassian would fill the role of the bad guys. But Jack is more similar to the character Dedra Meero. A bureaucrat who has a high rank, and is generally an up and comer who chafes the people around them, but is liked by the bosses. But you know, Jack is a good guy who is working towards positive goals.
Any writer who wants to create their own Jack Ryan story for TV should pay attention to Andor more than the Amazon Prime series. Andor is a master class of how to write a spy thriller that feels real, even if it’s in a fantasy setting. All Amazon prime has to show is how to write an American rip off James Bond, it’s not even good to learn who the characters.
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darthrue17 · 10 months
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"Also I’m aware I’m making Fury a real piece of shit, but men in power often are, and are willing to use anger and trauma to garner loyalty no matter what."
TBH I am in the same in my writing as the more we have learned about Fury the more we can see that he exploits people for what he wants from them using their backgrounds to his advantage. If it's true of the entire skrull population it's also true of one woman who would clearly do anything for his approval--which is actually confirmed in Episode 2 of Secret Invasion when Maria's mother says "she would follow [Fury] to hell and back"
I have written so much about the totally nonsensical way in which Maria died, a plan to pick up three dirty bombs with nothing but glasses, no help, no gear? Fury might have been acting dumb but Maria just told him the day before that he was, so why would she even go along with this? I know people get mad about fake out deaths but her's actually could have been really cool and then she could have killed skrull Rhodey and it really would have brought that chess theme together that never really panned out but ok Marvel sure.
I really don’t think that getting someone who was best known for writing the techno thriller Mr Robot (which is amazing btw) was a great choice for a spy series. Take Andor, a similar (but also 1,000 times better) show. It’s a spy thriller and origin story of the character of Cassian Andor from Rogue One, and was written and show ran by Tony Gilroy (most known for writing Rogue One and the Bourne series of movies). Andor works because of the writers knowledge of spy stories and knowing how to plan those out, as well as digging deep into the characters.
If you’re interested in talking about this more, my DMs are open if that is easier for you.
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Andor
Prequel series to Star Wars " Rogue One." In an era filled with danger, deception, and intrigue, Cassian will embark on the path that is destined to turn him into a Rebel hero.
After the shitshow that was "The Book of Boba Fett" and "Obi-wan Kenobi," I had no more faith in Star Wars. I was convinced that the only thing keeping this franchise alive was Little Baby Gorgu and his Pappa in "The Mandalorian." So when Andor premiered, I turned away. I had no motivation whatsoever to watch this show, even when the glowing reviews poured in. I knew the show was good, but I believed the praises were inflated by people who only watch fast-food movies and encounter what competent writing looks like for the first time. However, after seeing it be nominated for some major awards, I finally decided to sit down and watch it. I was not ready for the show that came before me. Andor is Star Wars at its best. Not only is this series a great Star Wars show, but it's an incredibly compelling political-spy thriller that uses Star Wars as a setting.
The first decision that set Andor up for greatness was using the World of Star Wars as a setting. Many properties within Star Wars focus heavily on the world rather than the actual characters and stories. Because of this decision, they wrote an engaging political-spy thriller that delves into the dirt of what it takes to perform a rebellion. From the players on top arranging funding through arranged marriages, money laundering, and political backstabbing. To the men on the ground performing "terrorism" and cutting off loose ends. This story put together, is further lifted by the pace and tension of the show. Andor is a perfect example of a slow burn that slowly builds its tension and stakes at every passing moment till its eventual burst in the finale. The final aspect that sends Andor above the entire Star Wars property is its intelligent and smart writing. The characters are wonderfully written, with each given depth, never seen in this world. Furthermore, all of the conversations between these characters are smart and respect the audience's intelligence. Disney, please explain to me why you did not put this much care and detail into the sequel trilogy.
What elevates Andor even further is acting from the entire ensemble. Star Wars is known for its incredibly mixed acting performances, yet Andor delivers performances worthy of Emmy nominations. Diego Luna is on form here, returning to his iconic role of Andor. He's back and grittier than ever, giving a powerful performance as one swept up in a rebellion. Stellan Skarsgard is great, as always, here. Denise Gough gives a performance that makes her the most intimidating and intelligent villain since Darth Vader and the Emperor. The same can be said for Kyle Soller's performance. Andy Serkis gives a powerful, Emmy-worthy performance with his monologue during the prison break sequence. Second that, give everyone an Emmy nomination who gave a powerful monologue. This is the best acting that Star Wars has ever brought, and I wonder where this has been for the franchise for the past couple of years.
What adds to the greatness of Andor is how grounded the world of Star Wars feels here. From using real locations and actual sets, this is easily the most tangible Star Wars has been since the original trilogy. Furthermore, this is the best that Star Wars has ever looked. The cinematography is absolutely gorgeous and is masterfully used as an element of storytelling. The score by Nicholas Britell brings a whole new score to Star Wars that blends wonderfully with the story and the universe. The attention to detail in the show's worldbuilding is easily the best since the Original Trilogy.
Andor is the Star Wars how you never knew you wanted. Instead of focusing on big space battles and lightsaber fights, Andor is grounded and focuses on intelligent writing and acting to keep you engaged. It proves that you don't need The Force for it to be Star Wars. Do not sleep on this show. It's as good as everyone says it is. This might be an underdog at this year's Emmy awards, so don't leave this show out.
I am giving Andor, an A.
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