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#Coldharbor spoilers
feykrorovaan · 6 months
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You all know Darien is probably going to show up again at some point, correct? It's not just hope. ZoS has been sprinkling breadcrumbs (pun intended) since Summerset. They wouldn't do that for no reason or to tease us (unless they're somehow legitimately evil,which say what you want, but that isn't the case).
Spoilers galore for elder scrolls in general under the cut (Main plot, Wrothgar,Elsweyr,Greymoor,Summerset
Blackwood,High Isle, and Necrom.)
Just look at Coldharbor. What happened after we "lost" Darien. We found clues that he was still alive. Including a letter written by him in Wrothgar. So it only makes sense to me that they would do so again.
Darien and/or the events of Summerset have also been referenced in every.single.chapter since Summerset.
That, to my knowledge, hasn't happened with any other characters, especially not consecutively.
In Elsweyr, you can find a deceased khajiit, and nearby there is a note,describing how Meridia was looking for a new vessel that wouldn't betray her.
In Greymoor, Gabrielle Benele says she still believes that Darien is still out there somewhere and she is determined to find him. Not only that, but there is a Meridia quest where she has apparently turned her gaze from her faithful. Now Daedric princes' attention and favor can come and go, and I don't like Meridia, believe me, but she doesn't seem like the kind of prince that would turn her back if something bigger didn't have her attention.
In Blackwood, there is a random event when you talk to a wizard and he can summon a lost spirit. One of those spirits can be an Auroran Knight with Dawnbreaker in his hilt. It's not confirmed to be Darien. But...come on. It's him.
In High Isle, Lady Arabelle references his father specifically. Not Darien specifically, but there are other generals, and captains they could have referenced.They chose him because they knew our ears would perk up at the name "Gautier". His father had a pretty forgettable role,Darien,did not.
In Necrom, if you played through the Summerset plot, you can speak to Naryu about the events of Summerset.
I don't feel like they would talk about him (or the events of Summerset) this much if he wasn't coming back at some point or at least confirmed to be alive in some way. Not to mention whenever he's brought up in streams, they are pretty tight-lipped about him, and they've never specifically said he' won't return.
Summerset was a big event. So if we do see Darien again, it's going to be big.
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sephiratales · 4 years
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Oc Vestige x Verandis HC (GREYMOOR SPOILERS AND BAD ENGLISH) : Prior becoming a Vestige and even meeting Ver’drani, Liv meets Verandis Ravenwatch when she visits an aunt in Rivenspire (whom had married a Breton person). As she wants to save everyone and defeat the monsters, she offers her help to Verandis, she does not know of his true nature. Of course, she begins to develop feeling towards him and it’s really difficult for her to learn that he’s a vampire. But he teaches her monsters are...not always monsters. In a foolish moment, he even promises her to share a bit of his time when everything is over. Not need to say how much heartbroken Liv is at the end of the quest. She swears to Verandis she’ll find a way and he sadly smiles to her.
Later, when she is one of the Vestige (HC : Elvi is also one) and she can wander in Coldharbor, she tries to reach him but it is impossible. Even Cadwell cannot locate him, which is quite a bad news. It’s a huge frustration for her, they are in the same plane of Oblivion, but he’s still out of her reach. She is stubborn and does not give up, she has made a promise. She even asks for Sotha Sil’s help, but he is unable to give her what she wants.
And then she meets Fennorian in Skyrim and discovers about the Gray Host, she connects the dots and understands Verandis was a member. She has seen how to bring them back, she trusts Fennorian to find a way to bring the Count back too.
And whatever happens (go to hell ZoS if you kill him) in the next DHoS dlc, Verandis will be back and safe. He hugs her when he sees her (of course he also hug Fenn!) and finally those years of fighting for him are worth it. 
They enjoy a well deserve peaceful time in Auridia, where Verandis meets Liv’s daughter Nallia and becomes her second Dad.
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renmorris · 6 years
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Can you elaborate on the flesh atronach issue? I don’t play ESO, so I have no idea what you’re talking about or what the problem is.
#oblivion spoilers
ofc! I’ll explain ESO’s stuff and the Isle’s stuff if there’s ESO folks who haven’t played
so in ESO the big bad is Molag Bal, and Mannimarco’s cult of necromancers who are in cahoots with him. during an early sequence in the main quest, you sneak into Coldharbor to rescue a dude so you can get his help rescuing a different dude. ANYWAY. the necromancers, who serve Molag Bal…have flesh atronachs. And towards the end of the mission you have to gather some pieces of flesh to make your own. 
while they technically appear in Daggerfall, they’re a huge deal in the Shivering Isles quest line. to the point that one of the guys appears on the cover art for the DLC. The first trial the Champ faces when they get there is killing a massive one who guards the gate into the rest of the Isles. 
ANYWAY we’re told that flesh atronachs are the combined effort of local goth mad scientist heartthrob, Relmyna Verenim and her boyfriend Sheogorath. That big guy, guarding the gate? Was basically their son. And Relmyna is not happy that you killed her big baby boy!
(Seriously though there’s a scene where Relmyna cries and it tries to hug her and ;o; its very sad)
ANYWAY. Events in the DLC progress and eventually you have to go help Relmyna make a new son with you. Awkward. We’re also told that Relmyna has basically created this entire field of research into a ‘sixth element,’ flesh. And even though Sheogorath has lost interest/patience with their relationship, He still clearly admires her. 
It’s a very cool quest, it’s smart, eerie and it involves working closely with a woman who hates your guts. Probably my favorite quest in the game, honestly. At one point you select the pieces that will go into making the atronach, limbs, heads etc. 
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This quest is also a big turning point for the Champion, who is now occupying Sheogorath’s role in the ritual. A lot of the Shivering Isles’ questline is about Sheo grooming the player to take His place. And the way Relmyna’s attitude towards the Champion shifts through the events of the DLC is another part of them quite literally taking Sheogorath’s place. 
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And in ESO they have you pick a few lumps of flesh up, walk over to a summoning circle and make one real quick. 
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…and they shouldn’t even really BE there etc. It exists purely as a nod to Shivering Isles. But like a really bad and sloppy nod that doesn’t…care. 
It’s especially irritating because ESO Sheogorath is…a fucking disaster. It’s very clear that whoever wrote him did NOT play Shivering Isles or pay any attention to his quest in Skyrim. He’s overly loud and shouty and written as wacky kooky…it’s extremely grating to say the least. 
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