#and are referring to ‘elle’ like it’s some kind of nickname? a shortened version of her real name?

[shadowedvales-a]

i will never understand the whole: jane ‘eleven’ hopper, or eleven hopper. they’re the two main names the fandom likes to use when referring to jane, and i just. 🤨 for one, placing eleven in quotations and squishing it between her legally adopted name, makes no sense to me. it gives the impression of a nickname, or some kind of middle name. or then placing hopper as a surname to eleven is further indicating that eleven is her name, and it’s who she wants to be. eleven is the number she was given at birth which claimed her to be less than human; her real identity was stripped away from her. she was physically branded, and spent thirteen years truly believing that she was never supposed to be anything more than a number. as soon as she discovers her real name and identity, she would want to be rid of that life as quickly as possible, (whether this is through el or jane). i don’t really get how the fandom even came to the conclusion that, despite her whole journey in season two, discovering who she was, who she could never be, what she lost, etc… everyone rly went ‘oh yeah she still wants to be called eleven!’ like. logic please?? where is it??

#ooc. #i do not mean ANY offence to jane writers who use either of these titles for her. #you continue doing you!!! this is just my opinion. #like okay jane never stuck in the show. that’s fine i guess. i am past the point of ever hoping that her friends will call her jane actually #in the show. #elle is fine. #she can associate good things to elle. #personally my portrayal won’t stand for it after season two episode five. when she finds out she’s jane? That’s It. no more elle. #but then when they STILL call her eleven??? #and are referring to ‘elle’ like it’s some kind of nickname? a shortened version of her real name? #eleven is NOT her name. #and yeah the duffers aren’t the best writers. #but they really missed the ball when s3 came around and she was still being called eleven on a daily basis. #it was really like her whole s2 arc meant nothing. when that is easily one of the most important arcs for her in the show. #the jane ‘eleven’ hopper thing just makes me >:( #like get that number away from her rn #why is it still even an OPTION. #if you’re not gonna call her jane. #pls at LEAST call her el #and i refuse to believe that she will accept her friends calling her eleven. #she would be so excited to know someone at one point did love her enough to give her a name. #that she was a little bit normal. a little bit like everyone else. #and she would take that name in such stride and pride because it really is the only thing her mother ever gave her. #she WANTS to be jane ives. #a name given out of love. #not eleven. #a title given to mark her as an experiment.