#but like. even if you 100% root for the mc and think they're totally in the right you can still..... like the character that betrayed them?

[kisskissgotohell]

i just wanna point out that, like. it's okay to disagree with the main character. just because they're the pov of the story doesn't mean they're infallible or that their word is law? you can like that character that tried to kill the mc. you can think the mc made the wrong choice. you can forgive things that the mc would never forgive, or choose not to forgive things that the mc does, because you're not the main character. you are the reader of the story, and just because you can't change it (and it's not the author's responsibility to capitulate to fans) doesn't mean you can't form your own opinions about it. it's fictional! that's the point! have fun with it!!

#sometimes.... main characters....... can be wrong #of course authors will generally try and make you like or agree with the mc (in some way at the very least) but like. #even the most perfect 'good guys' have flaws or else it's not usually a very well written story. and it's okay to acknowledge that! #it's not even really an issue of the whole 'protagonists can be bad guys/antagonists can be good guys' thing (ex. death note) #but like. even if you 100% root for the mc and think they're totally in the right you can still..... like the character that betrayed them? #nothing you say or think about them will make them NOT betray the mc in canon. so why does it matter if you like them despite it? #it's fiction - you can like multiple parts of the story simultaneously. it's okay. i give you permission. #on a similar note. it's okay for people to have different opinions about the same thing #to continue the analogy: maybe your friend doesn't forgive that guy for the betrayal but you do. that's great! #everyone can have an opinion about that guy and just bc someone disagrees with you doesn't mean you can harass them to change their mind. #while im down here #sorry about all this. im procrastinating on a project and ill do anything to stop thinking abt it so im thinking abt this instead #take death note. i do NOT agree with light but i also don't necessarily agree with L either. and i like both of them! #light HATES L and yet he's one of my favorite characters. i hate everything light does and yet i really enjoy reading from his pov. #its not black and white! #have opinions! change them after two days or think about the same blorbo for years! critical thinking and personal enjoyment can coexist! #anyways.

[theerurishipper]

Hi~ Hope you have a lovely day. I want to get your opinions on my rant lol and ask.

Marinette is such a disappointment of a lead female character in a western magical girl cartoon. She isn't a good leader and all her team consist of yes men and women and sidekick Chat Noir where her real partner Alya is standing over to the side. I liked her in the first two season and maybe some in s3 but the s4 and onward just got to me ngl. It's her world and we're all just living in it. Miraculous is so weird when it comes to team dynamics because I get she's guardian but I really wished it were someone else and not her because she chooses people she already get along great with. It fun for team dynamics to add be different and broader.

The whole she's just 14 the fandom spouts only goes so far how many messes do you do until you realise you need to own up to them even at that age when you should know better on your conduct ?

I get it hard to communicate but onwards I always thought the bigger of the two in the conflict was her because of her secrecy and her controlling tendencies. I disliked it so much in the ephemeral episode and her betraying her partner disgusted me. Sorry to those who like or defend her character this much but I can't stan or like a character that does this much crap to a friend let alone a love interest and then gloss over or minimize it and not be called out for it. Like, are people standards that low they think she's a good leader or a good proper representation on feminism when this show reeks of misogyny and misandry. She's the ultimatum voice for Astruc.

A communication issue with her Chat was fine a long time ago but now in s5 she crossed it hell nah how do people still support a ship with her knowing she followed Hawkmoth command for Adrien. I literally can't anymore with this show. Every guy she likes gotta be so 100 percent in effort and like in the Shadybug special him always comforting her makes me so jaded whenever she cries what about a change in dynamics had we ever seen her comfort him in turn how are people invested in this ship? Like that time in the bench and she just thought of ways to woo or give presents instead of just comforting him is so sad to watch.

She really followed in Master Fu steps. The bar is in hell and she crossed it in the finale. There is no excuse no handwaving it away and i know in my heart they gonna minimize it for Adrien own good. Everything is for his own good huh? What good is it rooting for a ship that just reeks of pity points. Like, she was never my favorite but who knew 8 years ago she'd pull a stunt like this and people bending over and doing mental gymnastics to rationalise this insanity. She really is a good foil to Gabriel ironically to bad she has no sway in this family drama we call the Agreste.

I know she has good intentions and it's not wrong for her to wish to save her prince but like thats all that is intention. Her actions are also important and the effects she's done is so bad that if she weren't the Main character and we haven't spent the chunk of the majority in her pov alone she'd be disliked.

I feel like compared to other respective series Winx Club s1-3 Bloom, Danny Phantom, Ben 10, Totally Spies they have it much more harder and so many more all show the consequences of your actions and how you do them right and they're her age. I feel like whenever someone bring up consequences it's like people in this particular fandom think we do it to punish Marinette but no I just never ever saw it properly done in this show because she's very coddled in the narrative. I don't see other MC as coddled as her before in a show where when they MESS UP it's actually integral and important.

Rant over.

You encapsulated all my thoughts perfectly, anon. I've said so many times before that I loved Marinette from Season 1-3 and even during Season 4 as it aired. What made me fall out of love with her character post Season 4 was the utter lack of acknowledgement of her actions and the insistence in portraying her as in the right at all times. Like you said, it's not just your intentions that matter. Your actions and the effects that they have on the people around you also matter. The writers don't seem to understand this, and it hits Marinette's character worst of all. She had so much potential to be such a great character, which is why I feel so sad seeing just how badly the writing failed her. Marinette deserved better.

Thank you for your ask!

#MLB #ML Salt #ML Writing Salt #ML Writers Salt #Marinette Salt #Meta #Asks

[differenteagletragedy]

heyyy, your writing is honestly so enjoyable. 🌻

i was wondering, how do you think Baxter would be like going to therapy as an adult? I see a lot of criticisms saying that “Baxter doesn’t need a significant other, he needs a therapist,” which I guess in a way is valid, but I feel like he could totally manage both! And like any good MC would be 100% supportive of him, I just see him maybe struggling a bit at first. Your thoughts? And have a great day!

Thank you, I'm having so so much fun with it!!!

I think Baxter would 1000% go to therapy, and honestly thank goodness for that, he's got some stuff he needs to work through. I totally agree he can manage both a significant other and therapy though -- in general I don't think a person has to wait until they're a perfect, totally healthy and stable person before they get into a relationship. Life doesn't work like that, and you shouldn't withhold something that would make you happy because you've got some stuff to work on.

I do think it would take him a little bit though, like to convince himself that he's worth the work. Like Step 4 happens, he's so happy to get back with MC (who would totally be supportive of this!), but when they really get into the thick of having an actual adult relationship, he's like "uh oh, probably I need some help with this self-loathing, self-sabotaging thing I've been doing for literal years." MC roots for him, he finds a therapist he meshes with and I think he'd keep it up for a while, even if it got to a point where it was just more of maintenance thing. Like if MC forgives him, he can probably try to forgive himself for everything he thinks he needs forgiveness for.

In conclusion (lol), I think MC helps him in a way that a partner should help with this kind of thing, but he does recognize that he needs a professional to really get in there and help him change his way of thinking.

#our life beginnings and always #our life #our life baxter #baxter ward #olba baxter #i have a lot of feelings about therapy it turns out

[deepdarkdelights]

I dont mean to sound rude to those who ask but I always find it odd when people try to redeem the versions of bts in your (and other) stories. When its something as serious as sexual assault, murder, or any other big thing. Like I know it's all fiction but, I don't think any character despite who their based on should or even could be redeemable after doing something so traumatic. I also don't actually root for character development rather I just kinda hope that the mc can get away or escape or get help. It's kind of fascinating to see how many people actually do root for the "couples" to work things out though. I wonder if it's just what they feel for stories like yours in general or if its cause they're attached to irl bts in some way while reading. All that to say, What are your thoughts? Would you want character development for some of the members in your fics? Do you think any deserve a happy ending with their mc?

This was a really great, thought-provoking ask anon! Thank you for sending it in!

So, I agree with you 100 percent, these characters are not remotely redeemable. Even if they were to undergo some character development it does not absolve them of everything that they did. I still wouldn't want them to end up with the mc even if they did "change," because no matter what the "relationship," always started out extraordinarily unhealthy.

Now, why would people want these characters redeemed? Because they are wearing the face of someone they care about. I can understand both sides of this predicament, those who don't want them redeemed and those who do. Even though they have done something horrible, they are still based off of incredibly kind and gentle people.

In fact, I have contributed to perverting that kindness, so in some part, this is my fault 😅

In fics I do tend to enjoy character development, that way we aren't always looking at a flat character who appears to have no motivations and no history. We can sort of see this with 10 Series, if I were to have simply left it at part one (10 Seconds) we would have only seen one dimension of Jungkook's character. I love to see people begin to garner sympathy for him in particular because it creates conflict in the reader just like the mc.

There are only two "characters" I would want to be redeemed at this point in time: 10 Series! Jungkook, and Purgatory! Yoongi.

And what I mean by redemption for Jungkook is that I want him to realize his mistakes, all of the terrible things he has done, and let the mc go. For me, that would be "redeeming." But knowing me...that most likely won't happen...or it will who knows 👀

In my mind, Purgatory! Yoongi is the only one who deserves a happy ending.

Okay, what am I saying? They are not redeemable, but it is totally understandable why readers would want them to be!

#asks #send me asks #10 series #purgatory