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#but without luffy he wouldnt even want to be a pirate or on another ship. he wouldnt have his purpose
frobin · 4 years
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I can totally understand the Jinbe/Robin ship, it does make sense. But can someone tell me why people ship Zo.Robin? Like... they barely seen to interact with one another and Zoro refers to her as the "creepy lady". Like... is it as simple as they're two attractive people who don't talk much?
Hello once more (?) anon, 
after all these years I still try to understand Zo//Ro//bin. 
Same with La//wbin. If anything I see both ships rather with Robin being a big sister to the men. But well. That is for another day and another time.  
What I felt like it simmers down to is that Zoro Fanboys want the hot girls for him and they prefer Robin to Nami because Nami has a more violent personality while Robin seemed more submissive. 
But then that is only my impression by skimming over fanworks. And we all know the most vocal fans are not always the best examples... so I googled and found a reddit post from 2018 ( “Why is everyone against robin x zoro”) that hopefully gives some insight (I want to add, that OP who started this thread said they don’t ship but then go full Zo//Ro//bin in the comments so...):   User 1:
The only reasons why I think that shippers like to have zoro and Robin together are:
- Both are The serious type, calm, collected, are more mature.
- Both are hot
- Both are fan favorites, nobody really hates on each of these two.
Seems legit. 
OP: 
Also robin and zoro both relate to being killers and hard people.
They both have had their hearts warmed by luffy after he saved them and both want to protect him and each other at all cost
...??? 1. it’s not clear if Zoro really ever killed someone? And neither is it clear about Robin but it’s much more likely? 2. like everyone else in the crew? Everyone had their heartwarming moment? ... I’m ????? 
OP: 
Robin is gentle and deadly which really complements zoros brash but silent vibe.
Yeah I guess that is why people enjoy it? But it’s basically the same with Franky. But Franky is brash and loud with complements Robins calm and collected better? But that is about taste I guess? 
OP: 
Their both logical and practical strategist
... I love how someone immediately answered “Zoro? A strategist?” Because same. Zoro is many things but not the sharpest tool in the shed. His swords are sharper than him. I love Zoro but he is kinda dumb. 
OP: 
And know how to keep the crew back in reality. And not allow them to act like kids in serious situations
>User 1 (again): 
>That would be Nami who's actively shutting down the bs of the silly crew >member
>>OP: 
>>No im talking about actual serious situations.Like how zoro wouldnt allow >>ussop to just cone back to the straw hats without apologizing
To be honest, after all these years I’m still not sure if Zoro reacted correct. I can accept it but I’m still not sure... but well that is my opinion. Has nothing to do with Robin though. She probably hoped for Usopp to join them again but ultimately didn’t dare to defy the crew that just saved her? I don’t know. 
Well... weird reason but okay I guess. The example is just bad? 
(okay so far only OP argues pro Zo//Ro//bin because the theme was a question and people give reasons as to why people might not like Zo//Ro//bin. No real hate though. Most just don’t want to see romance between crewmates.) 
OP: 
But the thing is if zoro and robin got together it wouldnt change their characters. Their personalitys complement so well already
okay I guess? If people see it like that??? 
User 2: 
One of the only reasons I wouldn't ship Zoro x Robin is because there's a lot Franky x Robin interaction and that's just a better ship. But again, it's not a shipping series... other than the pirate ships!
Shipping it if FRobin wouldn’t be a thing is a good reason XD 
... okay that is all I got from that thread and even a bit more makes my head hurt... I have never once found an essay about this ship that made me go “yeah okay that makes sense!” because in the end it’s always the same two or three scenes and character interpretations and... I guess in the end it’s just preference and taste? And quite often, to me, just seems like people see the characters different than others. But... as I said before that is just a very general impression I got. 
So in conclusion... I still don’t know. I just can’t see it? But okay ship and let ship if people enjoy it it’s fine... anyway...  
Sorry I couldn’t help. Maybe someone else can?! Feel free to add! 
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blueflamebird · 7 years
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10 days Lawlu: T is for “Thank you”
pairing: Lawlu (duh)
fandom: One Piece
rating: G
summary: after doffy’s defeat, law reflects
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note: I know i didnt do the other days but…heres the one that wouldnt leave me alone :)
Law’s eyes shot open, the daylight that snuck through his closed door giving enough light for him to confirm that no, he was not locked in that chest from all those years ago.
He rolled over in his bed, still warm sheets despite the missing person chased away the last of the recurring nightmare he’s had since he was 13.
Instead, he allowed himself to wonder briefly where Luffy wandered off to. The Strawhat captain insisted that they sleep together - “you shouldn’t be alone so much Torao! I’ll keep you company tonight!” - and the look in Luffy’s normally childish eyes silenced any complaints. If anyone asked, Law would just say he was still too sore to try to fight off Luffy’s rubbery limbs. The fact most of the strawhats would see right through that lie was besides the point.
Besides, it wasn’t that bad sleeping besides another person. Even if that person snored and kicked in his sleep. But Luffy was endearing in a way, and Law couldn’t help but think he’d easily be dead right now had Luffy not been there. To think at one point he saved the Strawhat on a whim…
Law found himself thinking back to Marineford. Just being there would have ruined his plans, had Doflamingo seen him there. Instead he was driven by…something. He still wasn’t one hundred percent sure what it was that drove him, the will of D or some sort of divine intervention, to save Luffy.
Operating on him had been one of the hardest, and one of his most favorite, operations to do. Luffy was still in shock, and the adrenaline running through his body kept him alive long enough for Law to get him in stable condition. And even then, the amount of injuries he sustained alone should have killed a normal person.
Except, by now, Law was well aware Luffy wasn’t just a normal person.
And even with all those injuries, Luffy survived, he lived.
Law glanced over at the nightstand, where his own hat rested but the straw hat he was looking for was gone, probably with its owner wherever he wandered off to.
Again, Marineford came back to Law’s mind, catching the infamous straw hat in his hands after Buggy the Clown threw it to him before going back underwater. He remembers holding it, looking at the stitching pattern, obvious fixes from the adventures Luffy and Shanks before him put the hat through. This one hat meant so much to Luffy, started his journey as a pirate.
And what was Law’s own reason? To get back at the people who killed his family before the Amber Lead poisoning took his own life? To work under Doflamingo long enough to put his plan into action and kill him for killing Cora-san?
Law felt himself shudder as the nightmare threatened to resurface. Banging against the chest, hearing the gunshots, Cora-san falling against the chest Law was in-
Law tore his gaze away from his hat, taking measured breaths as he forced the thoughts out of his head.
It was all over. Cora-san was avenged, all thanks to Luffy.
Luffy, who thought their alliance was a friendship and threw a metaphorical wrench into his carefully thought out plans.
Luffy, who took down Doflamingo for him.
Luffy, who Law initially insisted they were enemies, only for Law to be willing to die for him, since Luffy was so willing to help him achieve his dreams.
It was amazing how Luffy went from another pirate he’d have to beat to the One Piece to someone so important to him. To someone he managed to love since Cora-san.
His arm tingled with phantom pain of being cut off, and Law lifted his hand, flexing and stretching his fingers a bit. Still stiff. With some practice motor function should be back to the way it was before.
“Ah! Torao is awake!”
It didn’t matter how long he knew Luffy, the nickname, and the excitement Luffy always spoke of him always had Law’s heart hammering in his chest. Law allowed a small smile to grace his features as he dropped his hand, pain forgotten as Luffy let himself in, shutting the door behind him with a leg as he carefully carried a tray to the bed Law still lazed in.
“Good morning, Mugiwara-ya.”
Luffy grinned, placing the tray carefully on Law’s lap as the Heart captain sat up, feeling his body stretch and crack from sleep.
“Sanji made breakfast!-” Ah, so that’s where he was- “I was going to bring you some! But I got hungry on the way here and the bacon looked so good and you couldn’t have eggs without bacon so I just ate that too…BUT I brought your coffee!”
Law smiled again, gratefully accepting the coffee and not the least bit surprised his breakfast didn’t make it here. Maybe he could ask Sanji for a quick snack if he got hungry, but the coffee will do just fine.
“Thank you, Luffy-ya.”
Luffy sat at the edge of the bed, watching as Law drank his coffee, as patient as Luffy could be. When Luffy started shifting on the bed, Law had just finished the cup, putting it and the tray to the side so Luffy could bounce around without spilling anything.
Sure enough, once the tray was out of the way Luffy vaulted himself on top of Law, suddenly bringing them face to face.
Law grimaced. “Luffy-ya, were both still recovering! Be careful!”
“You slept ok right? No nightmares?”
Law fell silent, looking into Luffy’s serious and determined dark eyes. Even though Law knew the reason Luffy insisted on sharing a bed, having the reason put in the form of concerned questioning still took him by surprise. Luffy was nothing but blunt, but so kind and caring. Law had to swallow before answering.
“You don’t have to worry about it.” Luffy’s face fell and Law quickly had to add. “I slept better with you here, though.”
Luffy perked up almost as fast as he got disappointed, and Law had to wonder for the millionth time how someone so childish managed to run a ship as grand as the Sunny.
“Good! You don’t have to worry about Mingo anymore! Because I told you I’d help you kick his ass and I did! You’re free!”
Law felt his throat get dry. He wondered if Cora-san could see him now…would he be proud? He achieved Cora’s dream thanks to Luffy.
“Yeah…I know that Luffy-ya. But you know it will just get more dangerous from here, right? Kaido is much stronger than Doflamingo.”
Luffy grinned. “We’ll just have to kick his ass too!”
This was the boy who managed to get a grand fleet, Law thought. Because as simple as the words were, Law felt himself be reassured. Luffy was kind, but once he set his sights on something, he did it, no matter the cost. And not for the first time, Law found himself thinking, he would gladly die for Luffy.
“Huh? Torao?”
Law must have been silent for too long, but instead of deflecting as he normally would, he simply buried his face in the crook of Luffy’s neck. The Strawhat captain wasted no time in bringing his arms around to hold Law.
They stayed in their rather intimate embrace for a while. But once Law found his voice again and was confident it wouldn’t shake, he finally spoke.
“Thank you, Luffy-ya.”
Luffy giggled. “I should be thanking you, Torao! Without you saving me when I lost…when I lost Ace, I wouldn’t have been able to kick Mingo’s ass, and I wouldn’t have been able to see Sabo again. So thank you again, Torao!”
Luffy pulled back, holding Law up by his shoulders to look into his eyes, flashing a wide, rubbery grin. “As long as we’re nakama, no one can stop us!”
Law chuckled, repeating the same thing he’s had to since their alliance became less than professional. “Nakama don’t kiss and do half the things we do, Mugiwara-ya.”
Luffy, as always, tilted his head to the side, confused. “But I care about you and the talking bear and your crew! Well, maybe not as much as my crew, or how I care for Ace and Sabo. And I don’t want to kiss anyone else…BUT I STILL CARE!”
Law leaned in and silenced him with a kiss. Luffy gently returned it, probably worried about irritating their injuries. When Law pulled back, Luffy pouted. Law smiled.
“I know, Luffy-ya. Now let’s go. You ate my breakfast and I’m actually hungry.”
Luffy’s pout was replaced by excitement and Law had all of a second to prepare as Luffy bodily dragged him out of bed and out of the room, screaming “SANJI!!! BREAKFAST!!” at the top of his lungs.
Law wouldn’t change this for anything.
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tumblunni · 5 years
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Baron omatsuri and the secret island traumatizes me yet again, hooray!
Ok wow that was a nostalgia blast! Finally goddamn have a physical copy of this thing to own. Its never been dubbed and the only way to get it was this weird manga UK licensed reprint of a bunch of (i think) hong kong english subtitles. The style of the subtitles looks like that, at least. Its all weird and grainy and very very old fashioned early days of subtitling style, which contrasts completely with the modern dvd menus and box and stuff. And its also a weird combination disc of four different movies, it seems they just bought out a licensing package deal or something? And just baked it onto the disc without checking or editing anything. Its not really a funny sort of bad subtitles though, its just awkward phrasings of thibgs that are hard to understand or random typos or whatever, no legendarily hilarious stuff. I kinda dislike it more when subtitles are like this, when theyre like...actually written by a guy who speaks fluent english but he just never watched the actual movie so theres a bunch of rookie mistakes. Also has a strange case of what you usually only see on fansubs- the obsession with leaving everything in japanese to Sound Cool. Nah we cant call them the Tea Party Pirates we have to say the japanese word for that. Nah we cant have this man say mustache when he's doing the mustache pose and talking about his crew of entirely mustache men who all do this mustache pose NO it has to be Chobehige because its somehow deep and edgy to not understand the word for mustache. Like i feel if i was watching this sub first i would have no idea what was happening! At least its not as bad as that older sub i saw where they insisted on translating friends as "crew", even when it was llike..a singular. This one man is my crew and here are all my other crews! Like i feel like that subber probably originally did that dumb old fandom thing of INSISTING that you had to say Nakama in japanese and Capitalized and it was a Very Important japanese word for specifically pirate friends that was Impossible To Translate. And then they just did a ctrl + F replace on the whole thing and made an incomprehensible mess. Also for some reason sanji just yells DOCTOR out of nowhere (chopper wasnt even in the scene) and baron omatsuri's one syllable "oh" is translated as some long string of what seems to be baseball jargon..?
But ANYWAY the movie is still fuckin awesome and i actually noticed EVEN MORE dark shit and subtle storytelling that i missed when i was a kid! The whole 'small child zombie stares blankly at the place where a sword stabbed through his chest and cant understand why he got back up' scene is EVEN MORE emotionally destructuve than i thought! Cos the subtlety of the voiceacting seems to make the poor kid sound so tired and resigned to it? He's desperately asking and his father figure feeds him the same old lies he's done a million times about how he's totally still alive and everything is fine. Like wow i missed that inplication that this has happened before! And then he kinda sounds like he's actually aware that Baron is lying and he's just pretending to believe him to make him feel better. And then he starts turning back into a corpse and he doesnt panic like muchigoro or not realize whats happening like the grandpas do. He just looks straight at his hand falling apart and tries to lie to Baron to make him feel better. *long shot of him from behind before you see whats happened* "I'm just feeling dizzy again. I've got used to it." *him staring blankly at his body falling apart, not even capable of feeling sad about it anymore* "Don't worry...i've got used to it." *thud*
Like FUCKING HELL this film is the best damn existential horror thing ever and why the FUCK did they market it as a fun happy kids film? it probably would have been way more successful if the twist wasnt kept all twisty, honestly.
And also WOW YEAH theres a lot of stuff thats the subtlest goddamn storytelling in the universe and youd never notice unless you watched this film a million times like i did! Like during the intro when everythibg still seems all fun and cute and normal, the advert for the Totally Innocent Not A Trap Super Secret Island Resort is being read over some random shots of waves and stuff. But then right near the end you see those same shots again and it becomes clear that it was literally the view from Baron's eyes as he was falling from the ship and drowning, desperately trying to keep his head above water and strain his eyes to see if anyone else had survived. All the moments that just looked like camera cuts were actually when his head fell beneath the waves. Thats fuckin amaizng you straight up showed the ending in the beginning and we didnt notice????
Oh and also right before THE FUCKIN TERRIFYING MUCHIGORO DEATH SCENE you see him casually mention being 'sleepy' a few scenes earlier. It just passes by without notice and you think that he's just drunk until he suddenly starts going from comedic slurring to fucking asphixiating and the SKIN ON HIS FINGERS PEELING OFF. Oh hey! Another thing i didnt notice before! FUCKING THAT. A fun game for you on your rewatch! Looking out to find the secret finger horror! Ha ha ha...ha...
Also MAN OH WOW all the subtle signs of Baron getting more desparate throughout the movie and how it seems the time limit for the zombies was almost up and he had to kill these specific pirates right now because he couldnt spare even a few more hours. In retrospect it makes sense how he was slipping up and leaving evidence for the heroes to figure him out. And its just so subtly offputting and strange how he goes from making a big fun performance about the festival early on and then starts subtky rushing through the formalities faster. Like you dont eveb conciously notice the tone is changing until suddenly BAM the full change happens and you realise you missed all those signs! And aaaa its so fuckin sad how you see him come running when muchigoro drops dead and he's like fuckin GET OUT OF THE WAY DAMMIT and kneels down next to the body and theb he just..turns emotionless again and goes ITS TIME FOR THE NEXT CHALLENGE. It is time. Its now. Shut the fuck up and do it, i dont have time to deal with this shit, just die so i can bring my friend back. (Tho of course you dont know thats why at the time) And then whats most jarring about the whole scene to me is how he's like "okay fuck it theres no more fun theres no more attractions, if youre not gonna play along then the final game is just i shoot your damn head off" WHILE YKNOW STILL STANDING OVER THE CORPSE OF HIS FRIEND AND STARING DAGGERS INTO THEM LIKE ITS THEIR FAULT FOR DARING TO CLING ONTO LIFE and then a fuckin half finished hapoy fun carnival game sign pops up in the backgroubd and everyone walks past it. Why was that somehow both hilarious and terrifying????? Just fuckin 'whoops we had this thing ready to go but alright its murder time i guess' and everyone IS SUDDENLY PACKING HEAT AND RIDDLING OUR HEROES WITH BULLETS???
And also even more subtly Baron just?? Stays with muchigoro?? Like notice how the entirety of the endgame takes place around where the dude dropped dead. And how when mustache pirate guy saves luffy you see Baron just walking in circles around the same area angrily shooting arrows at nothing in complete desperation even though the dude is gone and itd make more sense to run after him. No he stays standing right there and actually looks really damn relieved when luffy comes back, he's like 'holy shit you really were stupid enough to walk right into my trap jesus christ im so glad but also youre a dumbass'. And he fights entirely using arrows at this point so you might not even notice that he barely walks more than just circling a two meter radius of fuckin DEAD BEST FRIEND CORPSE. Which btw blends intonthe shadows for this entire scene and they only draw attention it again after Baron wibs and muchigoro comes back to life. And UGH MY HEART you see him smile genuinely for the firstvtime and he's like 'im so glad youre okay' and muchigoro is like 'haha im more than okay i can do somersaults!' and generally being a FUCKING TREASURE and this poor fuckin horrible evil man is hugging his buddy and gently leading him away from the battlefield so he doesnt norice he was just fuckin murdering some dudes to ressurect him. God the scariest damn thing about this film is how the zombies dont know theyre zombies and honestky they probably wouldnt even agree with their boss's plan to kill people to keep them alive. They justvthink they live a perfectly normal happy life on hapoy festival island, and he wants them to stay that way and never feel pain again :(
Aaaaand then yeah the infamous scene of revealing this horrifying intestines flower is growing out of the flesh on his back and all the corpses its digesting are pushed against the undulating flesh of its throat like a snake devouring its prey. And its cutesy fake flower face grows infinate eyes as it just keeps laughing and laughing. And then it gets graphically blown apart and the poor goddamn parasite host tries to shove the bloody instestines back into its body, knowing that without this horrifying monster chewing on his goddamn veins all his friends will go back to being dead.
THE END
THE FUCKING END
God it ends so abruptly seriously
I still cry my eyes out every time at the ending monologue of Baron dying and meeting all the souls of his dead friends and theyre crying telling him he shouldnt be here, they wish he'd been able to find another reason to live without him...
And then THE END
JAUNTY MUSIC OVER THE CREDITS
THE FUCKIN END I GUESS
What a great but very oddly executed movie. Seriously i feel it could have worked better if it was given space to breathe and more deeply explore the dark themes rather than the weirdness of trying to fool the audience into thinking it was cheerful and innocent. Like all of this shit happens in the last 30 minutes of the movie! They spend 60 minutes on the fun carnival games! What a strange sense of priorities!!
I WOULD DEVOUR A MILLION HOURS MORE OF DEEP SAD ZOMBIE CONTENT
I am like the Lily of fanfics
Oh yeah btw the horrifying deadly elder god spine parasite thing is named Lily and it looks pretty much exactly like flowey from undertale. This film kinda spoiled me for that game LOL ive never trusted a single talking flower ever since!
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