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the0retically · 2 months
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Thinking about Chip being asked what his last name is after an introduction and him pausing for a moment, not because he doesn’t have one, but because he can’t decide if he should say James, Rose, Lafayette, Ferin, or Tidestrider. And in that moment he knows he’s loved and has a family and belongs somewhere, not by any arbitrary means, but because he’s wanted and loved and cared for
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suremango · 2 months
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Re-watching the onshot: you think chip, gillion and griffin will find drey standing at where he killed rose, mourning?
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bu-blegh-ost · 5 months
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Let's analyze Captain Rose's final message (ep. 113 spoilers!!!)
I have transcribed the entire thing into my notes, and there are few parts that I believe give us some subtle hints to important lore bits. So let's take a look at these fragments, shall we?
"Even with the Emperor’s gracious accommodations, I can never feel at ease unless I’m sleeping on the sea. Tomorrow, we depart this beautiful country for one last ride."
Nothing that crazy here, but now we have a better grasp at the timeline. So this confirms, that the last place Black Rose Pirates have been to, before they departed for the final adventure led by Hendrix's map was Onowa Country, and judging by what comes next, the chest was also created and left there during that last stay.
"But…if you’re hearing this, it means we all died."
If you recall, Drey mentioned few episodes back, that thier final excursion was of little significance, barely worth remebering. But here Rose is, about to embark on it, his last adventure before he retires, and he believes that he's going to die. That they all are. Rose must have hidden the true importance of this adventure from the rest of his crew. He KNEW that it's very likely they are not coming back from it, he KNEW he is not actually retiring. So, the question is, did Rose truly meant to leave life at sea for his wife and children, or did he chose to retire cause he knew he was about to die and he needed an excuse, to tie all the loose ends before he goes without alarming anyone?
"Even so, freedom can look so different for the individual. Not every pirate’s gonna play fair. I’ve been prepping for this moment a long time. The day I’d be outmaneuvered."
Something happened to Rose before that. If you ask me, something must have been put on Rose. A spell? A deal perhaps? Something must have happened between Rose and Hendrix (I can't be sure it was him ofc, but I feel like it is pretty obvious at this point). The map he gave him was a final retirement gift. Whatever happened, Hendrix surely did or offered something that made Rose unable to refuse the last adventure. Rose was forced to open the Hole in the Sea. He was forced to attempt to free the Nameless Prince, and he knew, he is bringing his crew to possible death. He knew they may not make it out of the sea in time, before whatever he had to do takes effects, before the sea turns black. I don't believe he would do this if he could find another way. This line makes me feel like he was tricked, finally cornered by Hendrix. It would also make sense why Rose never listened to Finn's warnings when he told him abt Hendrix hiding his true arcane ability. It's possible he knew already. It's possible he was already chained by it.
"Now I fear, we’ll be remembered for something we didn’t do."
The hole in the sea. The one thing people always mention when Black Rose pirates are concerned. He was right. But it only proves, that Rose in this entire game was a tool. Just a person forced to do another's bidding, to be at the right place, at the right time. A sacrifice, but not a player. Niklaus told Chip it was Rose who opened the Hole in the Sea. And he was right, kinda. TECHNICALLY it was Rose. But he was not acting of his free will. He was forced to do it. And who made him? Well, probably the one person who knows that it was him.
"Anyways, I think I should have cared about how my friends would remember me. My family…"
A beautiful comparison between Chip and Rose. Rose sought fullfillment, legacy, Chip sought to recreate his childhood, but they both realised that what they always wanted in the end was family. Rose realized it too late, Chip did so on time. And he did manage to create a family he can feel content about, be proud of. Rose's story is a reminder for him, of how things could have ended.
"If my wife is still alive, tell her, tell our child, her child, I’m sorry."
Rose left Onowa knowing he will not retire. He knew he lied to his wife when he told her that he'll raise their child with her. Did he ever mean it? Did he know that he is doomed from the start, or was there a true intention of going back to her, before Hendrix came and his fate was sealed? Also, that makes me think that Reuben is not Rose's biological son. "OUR child" refers to the kid they had together, "HER child" might refer only to his wife's son, to Reuben. Still, he must have cared for him enough to decide that he also deserved apology.
"Thanks for coming to look for us. I knew you would.
Take care, Chip. "
I wonder if he actually knew. Could Hendrix promise him that Chip would be saved? He didn't seem to expect anyone else to make it, so it's possible that either Chip was supposed to play a special role in some way, or maybe he already did, or he was guaranteed to make it out alive regardless of the circumstances to make the journey he is on now. That could mean that Riptide Pirates were truly always destined to meet.
Okay, that will be most of my thoughts! Feel free to share yours!
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skywerse · 5 months
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Captain Rose :)
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arandompigeon5 · 5 months
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Episode 113 got me sobbing dude
like chips still fucking dead, and he’s just found out that price might be the son of captain rose, and then he’s listened to this whole long final message from captain rose that basically tells him that he should stop doing what he’s been doing his whole life. He thought he should find the black rose members and rebuild their legacy but now he’s being told not to by captain rose himself? And this message was left for HIM specifically. Rose cared about him. And Rose had faith that he would try and find them. And it must sting so bad to remember that all the people who cared for you are supposedly gone. And on top of all that, seeing the tentacles right after could not have been good for him in anyway. Give my boy a break 😭
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theblacktiecacti · 1 year
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thinking about the black rose this fine evening
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plannette-drawz · 8 months
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Some Black Rose cats I've been meaning to draw digitally after they've lived in my sketchbook For Months. Might fully render these one day Who Knows.
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beeclops · 4 months
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pulchrasilva · 11 months
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Hmm Chip coming up with "be the best goddamn pirates the world has ever seen" and Captain Rose saying "be loud, be merry, and be pirates!" There's something to be said there i think
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navysealt4t · 1 year
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rubysparx · 1 year
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Ok fine here’s some really shitty quality riptide doodles. My Drey and Rose designs, sorry Rose isn't wearing a shirt i couldn’t think of one. Also a short comic I did just to get a concept out. (more abt that under the cut) (dont repost!!)
ok so basically the whole “Ollie is Rose’s son” theory. It’s the idea that when they get back to Zero there's missing posters for Ollie, and with his last name on there things start clicking for Chip- and the rest of the riptide pirates. Ollie doesn’t really notice and just gets excited bc its like he has a wanted poster, like a real pirate. And he just doodles on his own missing poster to make it look more like how he does now. I think Drey should get to say he looked familiar but whatever </3
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the0retically · 5 months
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Drey being the youngest of the group and how he most likely took care of Ava and Jay a bit before leaving but all he could say to Chip before the ship sank was “Close your eyes, bud, it’ll be done soon.”
Drey being young himself when Captain Rose found him and saved him. Saved him from the sea, from a monotonous life, from the navy, and from the Ferin name and family. The one who believed Drey could be something more.
And yet, Drey “Sureshot” Ferin who was the most vocal about trying to save Rose and to not hurt him when he was being corrupted was the one that took the killing blow.
And now Drey is back in the Black Sea, trying to find Arlin, seeing Finn aging much more rapidly than he should be, and Chip, the little boy who wanted a home and family (much like Drey himself) and was so scared of what was happening has now become another victim to this sea. The sea that Drey caused to flood by grabbing the egg. Chip is forever changed, no longer alive, and it is partially Drey’s fault.
And Drey can’t even reassure him or tell him that it’ll be over soon because he has no idea what is coming
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suremango · 2 months
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Is anyone else thinking that captain rose will be a another rose quartz situation, where --and this is not only chip's prospective, the other black rose members still think so highly of him-- he is greatness itself, good in every way enough to, directly or not, dedicate your whole life to following in his steps, yet along the way you begin to see the consequences he left behind seemingly careless, to all the things that have gone wrong because of his selfishness and recklessness, how in time you start to see the negative aspects of his character and slowly almost begin to hate him, for what he'd done, for how little he thought of you dispite seemingly loving you all so much, how he knew things would go wrong yet left your life knowing it'd be all on your shoulders, how he says in recorded memory that you're destined for greatness, yet had his recorded words be apparently the only thing he'd done with you in mind.
But dispite your feelings about him, whether or not he was a good person, he still matters, he still left a mark on your existence and life, and think bad of him all you want, he's gone. Maybe not entirely dead, but surely, gone.
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jrwi-dad-bracket · 11 months
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Captain Rose reasons:
"Had a kid with a wife."
"He was gonna be a good dad, man. He was willing to give up his career that he loved to raise his kid."
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Drey Ferin reasons:
"hes more like a weird uncle but i think he deserves it. also hed cry if he found out he won"
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gamergirl929 · 1 year
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Goddamnnnnnn another for Captain Rose Lavelle!
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fizzyorange-v2 · 1 year
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to my knowledge Ollie has never brought up his dad previously? and w his age now being firmly established outside of the timeline (12 vs the 10 year gap) it’s unlikely but i still think it’s a fun theory to work w regardless bc of said Parallels it allows
ah yeah I’ve just been informed that grizzly said explicitly in a rolled a while back that ollie is not captain rose’s son, RIP that silly little theory.
so the mystery continues,,,, I just know it’s gotta be something insane or tragic and I am very ready to make it back to zero to meet ollie’s mum/find out about his family and have my heartbroken somehow 😁😁
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