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#do you fucking idiots even know what a narc crash IS???
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GOOGLE STOP TELLING ME HOW TO “SPOT THE SIGNS OF” AND “ESCAPE” A COLLAPSED NARC WHEN IM LOOKING FOR NARC CRASH COPING SKILLS CHALLENGE
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bringcal · 2 years
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Why I think Jake has NPD as someone who is also a pw/NPD.
Just a heads up, this isn’t to say Jake is evil, wrong, or abusive. He is a random character. There is nothing wrong in having NPD, and I swear to fucking god if I see someone in the notes say I’m ruining his character by making him “bad” or look like an “asshole” I’m going to scream. Jake is a good person. NPD doesn’t make you bad. Also note I’ll probably say “narcissist” or “narc” rather than pw/NPD even though the latter is more formal and respectful. I personally just don’t mind it.
Poor self esteem regulation
With NPD, self esteem and ego is entirely dependent on the validation and attention of others. Though narcs may not value what everyone thinks, if you’re particularly close to them or they think you’re on the same level as them or higher, your opinion on them and reaction to them will completely change how they feel about themselves. This is one of Jake's key features to who he is, as it seems with every single interaction he has, he is in constant chase of validation from others. We see him express high amounts of shame over himself when he feels like he doesn’t do something right, such as when his friendships were heavily strained because of him. This leads to assumptions of how other people think of him, and of himself.
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Like pw/NPD, he also gets sudden, strong ego boosts when perceiving validation and approval:
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But can also immediately crash when people question his worth, which vriska does right after.
Also like to add, he also experiences power struggles with people he thinks aren’t as ‘good’ as him. In Jakes way, this hierarchy manifests most on morality and judgement. Though he ultimately dislikes Caliborn, he accepts Caliborn's promise of making him a better person as he sells it to Jake that it’s in his best interests, but still takes any chance he can get to kick down Caliborn a notch to get him back for insulting him and his friends rather than being subservient.
Jake is very impressionistic to get what he wants.
Jake talks in a really unique way against the other kids, in a way that's more impressionistic and vague in order to be liked. He follows the beat of others drums in his own way to seem likable, slightly changing the way he talks to different friends he has so they will like him more and he can feel more accomplished. This is nothing new that Jake does this to a point of almost seeming like he is constantly a part of a script of a movie. This is also the thing many people point to when talking about Jake’s unintentional ( or maybe arguably intentional ) manipulation.
Even with the relationships he makes, he tends to go with the flow on what others want to make of him, thinking their happiness and approval they’ll express will be exactly what he needs, without thinking too far on the relationship and emotions itself.
Jake is highly involved in himself without realizing it.
Jake, In many early conversations gets called a douche or an asshole  for how he carries himself through conversation. In many conversations. He can be almost insufferable with the way he talks about himself forever or tries to make other peoples topics about himself. A huge misconception is that narcissists know what they’re doing and they make everything about them because they only care about themselves, which really isn’t true. Jake cares about his friends, and doesn’t really fully realize when he starts focusing on himself during conversation. However, He’s labelled as a douche and creates many problems he doesn’t intentionally want to cause because of it, later being considered an idiot because he doesn’t actually realize how self centered he can come across.
Jake is highly interested in fantastic views of himself.
Jake is highly involved in wanting to be the hero and get the girl. His view of masculinity is completely warped by the ideas he saw on screen, and this has led him to fantasize about himself being the hero, getting the girl, and being liked. Narcs heavily rely on fantasy and daydreaming about themselves and their own goals as a way of ego regulation and comfort, also shaping their identity with it. Anything a narcissist finds cool? You better know they’re going to want to embody it. We can see this attitude early in his introduction, fantasizing about kissing his ultimate fictional crush, and thinking of himself as way more active and adventurous than he actually is. He also actively finds comfort in fantasizing about these things.
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Though this doesn’t fit super tight into this section, Jake also feels as though he is special, indicating that he doesn’t think anyone would really understand him. This isn’t in the way he thinks he is better than everyone, but in a way that isolates him and can only be understood by certain people, such as caliborn, who is also self centered but, unlike jake, disregards and exploits others very overtly, which is why they don’t get along too well in the end.
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Jake has problems with affective empathy.
Something really important to know is that empathy, sympathy, and compassion are different things.  Empathy is feeling what another person is feeling, Sympathy is feeling bad for someone's predicament, and Compassion is actively helping someone in their situation. With NPD, affective empathy is strained while logical empathy isn’t. Affective empathy means accurately feeling what another person is feeling. This means feeling the same sadness someone feels. While logical empathy is not feeling the emotion, but logically understanding the reaction the person is having.
Jake, time and time again, shows very limited empathy for his friends, and doesn’t really think about how they feel. While this is exceedingly obvious when him and Jane have a whole argument while Jane is setting up her birthday, this is also obvious in other situations.
Here, Dirk is surrounded by fire, yet Jake doesn’t really wonder how Dirk himself is feeling, only wondering on how to act as fast as he can, which is more compassionate without empathy.
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Though, of course he was probably just panicking too much, which is fair. This is another example, where Erisolsprite is clearly upset with the way Jake has been handling his relationship and finds it draining to everyone including himself, but Jake takes it more personally without considering why he said this in the first place:
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You can kind of see the jist here. Characters such as Roxy show way more concern or interest in others' wellbeing. Not that Jake doesn’t, but when he does he usually takes it personally, applying  how the news effects himself first than about the other person, and relies more on being compassionate without really thinking it through. He does experience logical empathy though, seen with roxy, where after it being explained to him realizes that what he said is slightly inconsiderate at the strength of emotions over this topic:
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I didn’t provide many examples here because I was rushing but I could go on. This, at the very least, would make him meet the criteria for Narcissistic personality disorder.  Other traits I would’ve liked to touch on was his strong envy over others, but this trait is rather mild against the others. Though, It’s worth quickly pointing it out.
Reading Jake from this lens is rather interesting and just thought to talk about it a bit.
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narcpocalypse · 4 months
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I wanna share some dark experiences I face as someone with NPD because I'm so fucking tired of the stigma. Reblogs are okay. This is all my individual experience, not all narcissists are the same.
TW for suicide/venting/abuse/delusions/abelism
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I have seen a lot of narcissist rep recently and it's great, but I haven't really seen any narcissists open up about the crashes and being vulnerable (understandably so) so I'm gonna share some of the hell I've had to endure since developing NPD because it's driving me insane.
I have no peace anymore.
I've never been the type to be suicidal up until recently. My suicidal urges ONLY come from NPD and I have 6 other comorbitidies. It's scary how suddenly it comes and the graphic extravagance it displays as.
I am convinced I'm an evil, terrible person who doesn't deserve to be here. It's unavoidable and follows me everywhere I go.
I just want to indulge in media without the name of my own disorder becoming a trigger when mentioned, because I know It's cruel. I'm sick of trying to spread awareness and following accounts talking about trauma I've experienced only to scroll and find the next video is about narc abuse. I have zero capacity to go out of my way and explain why what they said is harmful either.
I am plagued by the upset of the people I've hurt and trying to heal with no resources. I feel like I'm having a bad trip/high whenever I'm having an episode. My comprehension of everything becomes so foggy and only makes sense in my distorted narrative. It's like someone tells me the sky is blue and I try to convince them they're wrong because I am certain the sky is green. I see it, feel it, breathe it and it's real. I feel like a complete idiot and I'm genuinely terrified as to why my brain tricked me into seeing it green. It's so fucked up. Then I have to somehow try to explain that without sounding manipulative and comfort the other person, which is even worse when you have no remorse. You know it's wrong and you don't want the person being hurt, but you couldn't give two shits until it actually settles in. It makes you look bad. You actually and finally comprehend emotionally that you have hurt someone really severely.
The shame is CONSUMING.
It is genuinely one of the worst emotions. Someone hurt me? Fine, I'll get over it. Someone invalidates me? I'm used to it, but it fucking sucks ofc.
I did something wrong? The gates of hell have OPENED. What do you mean I'm not a good person? What do you mean I'm not perfect? I pour my heart and soul into the people I care about only to be met with delusions that ruin everything? What if my abusers were right about me?
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Clone Wars     The Deserter
          (Season 2 Episode 10)
Inter     Sting-
 Ha         Ha-  
   No-
  The       Quote;
    It is the quest for honor    that makes one honorable
    -No
    -It’s
     -you can dedicate yourself to a        purpose
     - but you have to do it well
      -accountably
      - For it to            mean          anything
       “Quest”
        Wanting 
           for
       Account-            able
        Means
       Nothing-
      With-out
       Action
       Any-way
       Oh,          We’re abandoning the grievous      arc?
     Aw.
      What.
      Oh.
     Jedi       Council-
      One idiot
     Who let       him   board           
And tried to take him on his own
In the outer        Rim. .
   Natural      selection’s            a          bitch        (Don’t    eugenics)
 Any.way              A            Trap
      Of like a few     guys
       And Anakin just sitting around until      he got shocked   to    almost    death. .
“Fierce   confrontation,”
  Obi-Wan           got          his          ass         beat                - unconditionally-             -             That        person               -             Did           some          thing.           - - -  
        Then they had to      re treat  
. .
Saluka       Mi
‘Yes       general Kenobi is doing some     very       serious thinking     . . .
  Clone troopers      -
  Yeah- again    why is Rex getting dragged along?   
  Des-per       -ate       Target
  Desperate?
He seemed fine?
  And Obi-Wan          got his ass kicked      last episode
       [Who’s trapped            in a room             with who?]
      It’s not   General Kenobi..   ..
  Whelp-
   Okay-
  W-help-       -
  Okay,        Right-
   Planet-
  Well there are plenty of resources around you-
  Before they find us
Obi-Wan will insist I play a game of tag with him-
 He- always runs-     -    Also,      nice cloak?
  It    suits him..
   Very      noble..
  Kenobi
   Again that could be     literally     anyone..
   Also time to        hijack         a       ship          -        What is that       not the plot    we’re going with?           -          We     
    Need     To 
   Hurry
“Escape          pod,”
  It’s-
A planet-?
There are   no escape    pods.  [Besides the    ones you arrived in-].    ]
 Or just hijack one of their ships,
Tran-s-     ports-
Wreckage-
 Again- 
Why is    Rex-
Plot     Im      Por-t    anc       e-
Nice      Sight-
 Contact the    Fleet 
 Good plan
  Comms broke?
   “Transmitter   is destroyed..”  
    Fair...
   Well    time to find parts and    make a new one.    .
 .
 Escape       Pod-        Make     it there. .    .
Good plan
 (Also,       He looks like a    vampire)
   Just say’in
   Find           Trans-      Por-        Tat-      Ion-
 Fair     -   Okay,
 Hot Things
 Very    well   rounded    environ-        ment-
   Cute
    Less        So
    [And   an adequate    metaphor      for the war    coming home..]     .
 Right.
    Int     -imidating     -     Okay-    Neat-
 Okay,
  That’s         a         Thing
   (Or            A         Giant         Skate          Board           Ramp:)
    That’s        Some-thing    
  Or-        bit
   Any-
   Grievous
 [A giant skateboard ramp              but no]
      Ship...
     What?
      ...
     Okay!
      Oh
Er-
Power       Low-
 Well they haven’t re-     charged since last morning,
   Er
 Dude-
 “Can’t go           On,”
  That one droid that just had to be more        dramatic than everyone else
    Good            for           Him,
   Re-charged
  Well  you clearly aren’t solar powered     and there’s no   port to do that.
 Again?
De-pleted
 Dude he’s using that to   carry your equipment,
 Close        Down        for         A       Few      Mom   -ents
 Dude
 [yeah the way he put it was kind of   as-    inine;      “You,”       Instead          Of          A        Logi         cal-       We only have      ____hours of energy              sir
  But    he must be doing pretty badly      too,
  Having some   sentience,      Bi-          ologi     cal        -Com         Pon-         Ents-,             And       Robotic-
Also, so it’s a sleep   cycle,  
  Neat,      (Did not know that about the droid’s       recharging process,”)
      We saw the guards charge   electrically. .
   No-
  Does that-  just magically charge them?
   Is it an emergency back up         at a light saber?
     (Because         if so      that’s kind          of cool.”
      No-
    Thought-
    - Pod-
     Aight
       “Yikes,”
     Dooku’s          going                To                Be             Pissed.
       Okay...
       Right..
       Team-         Work... -            ...
   Okay...
    A’ight
   Aight.
   Aight  
    And.. .
 A’ight-
  “Rex,”
  “Contact        Us,”.         -
    “En           Gage,”
  Dude-  they’re supposed to engage a robot with several    flame swords?
Have you seen -   how useless their blasters    are-
(Yoda   at least said it     don’t shoot        at the obvious           Jedi/             Sith-           Force           User-
       Aigh- t
      Surprisingly             calm                ...           And..            Obedient?
        Whelp-
         “Rex                  is a smart man,”
           Have we seen anything to indicate that?
           Creative, destructive, impulsive,               asinine
              Explosive
            All things that describe               Rex
 Wouldn’t     exactly      go      with     “smart,”         .      Does     he just become a different person    with Kenobi?
    Also is that     the only format they have       for complementing people,       ____,         Is         A        Smart (adj          ective)         Man,?”
Used the same for     Cody.
  His      Feet   . . .
   Now it’s a    com-      pliment-        -     (We’ve   also seen   nothing in this episode to     indicate or provoke      That      Arc.. .)
 (Like he just     follow-      ed orders?)
   Not a wrong   time for compliments          (Al-most)
     Just          Weird.
  There         They        Go
  Voom
 Gull-  Ible?
 Gone
   Off
  “    “
  Ri-
 Ok-ay
  Here’s         One          -         Un-      conscious-          -         A-ight
  I-n-    spect
  It
Aight-
O-k
R-i      g-ht
Voom,         r
 Nice       land-scape-     R-ight-
 Okay-  -
Whelp,      Feck!  
 Aight       Crud-
   -
 -shot.   
 -
 -
Whelp-
You-     heard a gun shot and didn’t get down?
Whelp-
Ouch-
 Tumble and Roll!          (Tuck and roll!)
   Shit
  Protect             The            Cap-tain
   Anakin’s        captain         (Like seriously who is Obi-Wan‘s       captain?           Cody is his        commander?
    What is the          order          here?)
       Good               for             Him?
       Shit
    Comm        an   do-      Droids-
   Get         Shit,         Jobs           - 
   Behind          everyone        else?
     Hey      shouldn’t      someone           be        Comming            in?              —    
      Shit-          Whelp        -             Got          Him-              -     Co-        mm-         an-          do
    Droids-
   Oh, yeah this unit does have a     pen-chant against those guys
  I guess                Rex
(The        droids finally did him in..).      R.I.P.    Heavy.
   Whelp,         No facial  damage that       we can see-
     Might have a con     -cussion-  
    Wait...
    How does he have a hole in his     suit?      
    Dude clearly aimed for the head..
     Hold up...  
     Re-wind...   
   Oh no,         it did somehow get him in the      chest.
     How?
      Did that...
     Any         Way-
     [Plot   convenient         bullets aside]
     Shit..
    That’s           Not..      Good..
   “Jesse,”         Name   (s)-
 Aight,      Whelp-
  Could’ve      used some tanks,
    Whelp
   Nice sunset          though,
  Hopefully         not on Rex’s             life,          Though-
     Ai-ght           Tech,         Have,  
     Righ.      t-
   Okay-
  Guidance            System-
    The guard...      has an odd haircut
    Doesn’t look         very military...
   Unless we’re counting that one dude         On the Centurion          Guard, who      ended up being a           villain?
        That looks like a     normal        haircut.. .       .
 Me-mory          Logs-
  Emerg-ency   sen-sors
   Escape        pod
     Mid air       collision-
     -         A-      Ight-
  O-     kay-
  How-
  “With         What?”
    Wait is there another     plot line that     I’m unaware of
   ...
      ?
   Okay.
 What?
 Crash        -ed?
 Ironically, Cody’s being more inventive than     ,Rex?
  And Rex       spent the time taking     orders?
[Wtf Is this characterization,”          ]
aight
I can     put us   within           . .
  Two        or three clicks
  Good.. ..
 Alert the men  
He said to the random the blonde guy-
  Wait is that his captain?
  That would make sense
   [but       eugenic]
    ,Okay,
    Name,
   Wait they have a     medic?     Or...
 Armor...
 Fair
 Okay...
 [Odd sound effect       there]
   Fair
   Pick-
   Hey, is no one going to call for help?
   Like you were told to     Com in?
 [I know this isn’t as important as   General grievous     but I think it counts,]
  You know the lead possibly    dying,
  Could get       a medic       some possible back up
  Not    to mention those droid    had to come from somewhere.
“Cover,”
 Oh it’s the   animals’ making it
That make sense.
Wait a minute.
Do-mesticated
Or herbivores and friendly   but we’ll go with        this logic
(It also makes sense for   Obi-Wan’s unit to     jump this high for a   conclusion,      it’s in his     char   -acter
And      see-
Oof
Sir,
Literally everyone is more inventive than   Rex in this episode
   [I think someone-
And I mean it’s      pos-sible
    Mixed up the        chara         cterization..
     This is supposed to be the    rule and order         unit        correct?
       Farmer
     [so we’re going to         bug that fucker]
Like seriously,     the leaps in logic here are astronomical?
Do you see rows of   domesticated       crop?
Do you see any sign of     human   co-       habitation?
Where - is this coming   from?
Really is   Obi-wan’s     unit]
 Any way.. .
Let’s find his     homestead
Not even   “let’s see     ‘if we can borrow some supplies’    “      Let’s     feck   up   this     guy’s   house
Damn
Storm-  
Trooper       Don’t      Fuck      Ar   -ound-
  Aight-
   How-        Okay-      Practic   al
-what are -
   Out       Cold
    Oh now   there’s things. .
    Would’ve been           nice to see that.
     . .
    Whelp. .
    Hi
   Heck-
   You        Have-
   A   shotgun
 You   should   run-
 S’up
  Okay
  Pretty        Di-        rect-  
   Move          Along-
    Old clone man-
    Easy-
 Yeah       they have        blasters.
    Still
   She said you        weren’t wanted..
   Take off a helmet doesn’t change that
     Move along
   [Also yeah  friends that come with several armed shotguns, a possible army following them, unwanted and uninvited
  *Friend         Ship   
  Bu-      llets-
     Don’t be         friendly
     Say the    pitch
    “Get out of your          hair        real quick,”
     Yes,       no,          leave,
    State       Bus-        I-     ness-
  Ain’t falling for any of your     “friendly.” bullshit,
 Captain
  Doctor 
  We have a     medic-
  Good-
   How?
   Over         night-
   Dude that is a big fucking risk you’re asking her to      take
    [Narc            Log]
       Like you guys are open shots,
      That      dude can’t protect them selves
      And,  they clearly don’t want to be    accountable
     (Out here)
  As the world   burns...
   I’m sorry            Sir         But        the signs       are pretty        clear.
   Mommy
 Oh god,
She’s a   Generation    breaker,        too?
  Directly?
    Whelp...
     Also          not        how        kids        act..
     They don’t have     initiative           ...
    Can’t have     emotion...
     Hm,
  Be-nches
    Good-
   Fine,       Thanks,
   Enab            ling         war,
   What ever
    Go
   Aight
   Future        healing       tech,.
   What, 
   What        Happ-        en        -ed?
Seriously, shouldn’t be            Shouldn’t there        be someone       on guard?
-
   Left-
  Seriously,  is there     armor out of plastic?
    Like,         how?
   How?
 Arm- 
   Shit-
  Seriously,   
do   the   other   guys      have    to be here      they’re       kinda     making           it     un-     comfortable.
 Nerve       Damage-
  Oh, yeah   just left the whole 
person up to examine an arm.
Under-      Stood      -  
 Who said that?
On with it-
 How-
The bullet went through his   chest         -    
  We see a      wound,     On his          lower           back?
      That’s not        bruising          from           the           fall?
          A           rock                wouldn’t             create               that              kind                  of              Mark.
            No               Con-               dition
        -Heal
         Time
         Ok-    ay-
Well,   call    up,     Obi-Wan,
 Get     Rex to the medical ship   that they keep talking about...
We’re      Get    -ting        Un       der-       Way        Kix
  Damn      It         Self        De-       Str     Uct       Ive             -      Ba     stard          -       If     buddy      wants         to       throw        them         -self     over the cliff   there’s nothing         anyone               -    can do about it
(Except- Hope-)
    ...
   That’s          An         Order
    Wonder       What-      Kinda       Order      -        Team   Medic   “Don’t”.   “I can’t bring you back on that much death,”
   Then again most civilizations would not be found it on a precipice
      So        How..
 “ I am     outrank      everyone,”
   Medic, pulling a fucking      rank.
    And he actually    can do that
    Considering dude he decided to fuck around and      find out with   Mother      Life       Dude is technically a kin        To      immediate accountability    at any    point
 T-ypically to the medic    who treated him-
  So,     Yeah,      He can      totally       do that,
    Okay,
     Damn,         It,
     Also look at these   idiots standing around    
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