#goth is a music based subculture

[tragantia]

I hate the modern world honestly you can't search for cool goth pics anymore without being bombarded with naked normies with tats and the stupid big tiddy goth gf tag like fuck offfffffff

#goth #Goth is a music based subculture

[femmemortes]

If I see another porn bot post in the goth tab I’m going to go insane. I want to like posts about the silly little bands I like, fashion and subculture. Not shit that equates goth to being about what you wear/an aesthetic, still getting the typical fashion wrong anyway and just feeding into the “big titty goth girlfriend” brainrot.

#femmemortes things #I’m ranting here lmaoo #goth #goth is a music based subculture

[girlishguitarist]

#made this on my Instagram but #it was too good to not bring over here #song is Woman’s Prayer by Winter Severity Index btw #goth #post punk #music #deathrock #goth rock #goth subculture #goth is a music based subculture #I don’t care how much black you wear #if you don’t listen to the music #you are not my goth sister

[sweetface-the-dollbaby]

GOTH *throws table* IS *bashes in toaster* ABOUT *consumes human flesh* THE MUSIC‼️‼️

#Goth #goth is a music based subculture

[antibakterijskaolovka]

From last.fm:"Erato is also the name of a Belgian goth rock band. The band debuted in 1993, and has always put strong songwriting and live performance first. In 1997 they won the first annual Gothrally, which put them on the map in the Belgian alternative music scene as upcoming goth rock act. The band has lived up to their reputation, playing several live shows across Belgium as well as abroad.

ERATO's music can be best described as a rare blend of the purest New Wave sound of the 1980s and contemporary rock. Their unique sound has lead them to perform with bands such as the Sisters of Mercy, Skeletal Family, Ikon, Violet Stigmata, the Cruxshadows, Two Witches, Faith and The Muse, and many others.

Since their formation ERATO has released 4 albums, and still performs live today. The band is expected to release their fifth studio album sometime in 2013."

Day 8 of me posting goth music until I get bored of it.

#goth #goth music #goth is a music based subculture #erato #sexy #Youtube

[babyvampgirl]

#deathrock #goth #80s goth #goth punk #post punk #80s retro #retro goth #horror punk #80s mixtape #goth is a music based subculture #Spotify

[scorpion-flower]

People will do anything to be a goth BESIDES listening to the music.

#and by people i mean posers #posers will say stuff like 'i dress gothic therefore i am a goth it does not matter that i only listen to k-pop' #not to mention the 'goth began with the birth of gothic architecture and gothic literature' folks #repeat after me #goth is a music based subculture #scorpion-flower #we were the kings and the queues #music #goth #goth music #goth aesthetic #goth girl #gothcore #gothic aesthetic

[rivetgoth]

The r/goth subreddit kinda swinging to the opposite side of the Goth Gatekeeping Discourse pendulum and like getting into incredibly nitpicky detached arguments that don’t really mean anything within the context of like. Going outside and actually engaging with the irl scene about, like, whether Disintegration by The Cure is “actually goth” or not will never not be funny. Someone asked recently if The Birthday Massacre is goth and some guy replied super condescendingly with a comment like “I’ve never heard of them before but listening to them now, they have to be the least goth band I’ve LITERALLY ever heard.” Like…. Come on now. 😭

#like TBM is not trad goth we all know this but you’re being so purposely obnoxiously obtuse to act like #it’s some absurd question to ask if one of the biggest dark alt bands that has extremely major footing in the wider dark community is goth. #(ppl on there can be cool I just think it gets goofy about nitpicking genres to the point that there’s like. no room for evolution at all) #like it’s obviously one thing to completely divorce goth of its meaning as a music based subculture but imo it’s equally goofy to like #post nothing but TSOM Joy Division & early Cure and then get weirdly rude and uppity over fellow goths using the term like #MARGINALLY more liberally than you do within the context of the modern real life goth scene. ykwim.

[i-upset-to-dead-65]

Me to random people who don't know anything about alternative subcultures: yeah lol I'm goth or whatever

Me to actual goths: no I just dress alternativly and while I appreciate goth music it's not really my vibe so i dont identify as goth really I just identify as generally alternative because I used to be an emo purist but I'm lazy nowadays and what I wear is what I like and what makes me feel good and also I don't wear color

#goth #alternative #goth vs alternative #emo #alt fashion #i feel like a liar every time i say im goth bc its simpler than explaining that goth is a music based subculture

[flamejob]

the thing about that idiot posting "goth is a middle to upper class subculture" and using the long victorian gowns as an example of an expensive clothing item.... like as a goth i know zero rich goths. we're all working lower middle to lower class ppl and i don't think that was any different in the 90s and 80s. i think goths are extremely creative, and a lot of the beautiful clothing like that you see is either handmade, thrifted, or shared/swapped amongst friends. all of my more pricey pieces are all secondhand, and i usually save up or try and "work" towards buying them or treat myself during a tax check period or some shit. any upper class goth who has a wardrobe of entirely new very expensive items may look the part and enjoy the music but they're missing the ethos. this is true of like most alternative fashion subcultures. like people who wear lolita fashion or victorian/historical stuff may have "expensive" wardrobes, but they're usually regular working class people who handmake, thrift, or save up and budget to be able to afford the things they want to use to express themselves. obviously punk fashion doesn't have the connotation of looking expensive, but the ethos between all of these subcultures when it comes to the look is very similar.

#obv goth is a music based subculture and punk is music/political based but i'm referring to the fashion aspects of both here

[im-the-son-of-rage-and-lov3]

I swear to god if I get called goth one more time tonight I’m committing a crime.

#it is a music based subculture and i don’t even have one song liked on spotify #wearing black doesn’t make you goth #i speak into the void at a normal volume

[fleshdyke]

yeah not listening to goth music but still dressing goth makes you a poser i guess but who cares a goth that listens to ed sheeran is objectively hilarious. however not following punk ideals but still dressing “punk” makes you a fucking poser in the bad way

#i say ‘punk’ bc the people that don’t subscribe to punk ideals but still claim to be are always buying like $80 distressed ripped punk jeans #and pleather jackets with random zippers that do nothing in an attempt to be punk #like. goth and emo and shit are music based subcultures so like technically yeah not listening to the music makes you a poser #but honestly who fucking cares. you’ll get barked at in hallways and posted on some kid’s snap whether you listen to the music or not #however. punk is different. its still partially music based but punk was born in poor communities that were predominantly black #and so a big part of punk culture is cop hating and anticapitalism and nazi punching. and the distinction between performative tiktok kids #and punks that will actually punch a cop in the face is huge #also keep in mind forever and ever that the very foundations of punk are being nice and standing by your punk siblings no matter what #and the corporations that make punk clothing made by employees with no union and sold for $80 will never be punk #rambles #punk #goth

[antibakterijskaolovka]

From last.fm:"Rosetta Stone is a British Goth band formed in the mid 1980s around members Porl King (Rosetta Stone, Miserylab) on guitar/vocals/keyboards and Karl North (Rosetta Stone, Dream Disciples) on bass, plus their drum machine and synthesizer rack nicknamed "Madame Razor." The band was named after the Rosetta Stone, an Egyptian historical artifact, and used ancient mythological imagery. Their early style and first album reflected the jangly-guitar sounds of 1980s gothic rock, and their first big break was supporting The Mission.

In 1991 the band released their most successful single Adrenaline, an indie dancefloor anthem which marked a change in direction for the band's sound and line-up. Porl Young (who had joined just after the recording of An Eye For The Main Chance) left to produce Children On Stun whilst Porl King and Karl North remained to take the band into a more industrial sound."

Day 7 of me posting goth music until I get bored of it.

This is one of my favorites.

#goth #goth music #Rosetta stone #goth is a music based subculture #youtube #sexy

[babyvampgirl]

#80s goth #goth #coldwave #darkwave #post punk #goth is a music based subculture #demos #b sides & rarities #Youtube

[themori-witch]

The number of people that I've apparently made angry by saying "having black hair doesn't make you 'more goth' than someone without black hair" is... a lot. It's a big number, lol.

#its a music based subculture and has many facets to it #aesthetics is only one part of being goth and even then there isnt a perfect mould we're all supposed to fit in AND THAT'S THE POINT

[deadinsidecastlevaniafan]

The aesthetician of the gothic subculture

The gothic subculture is music based, yet now a days, people either think of it as only fashion or aesthetic images.

Another problem I have is that goth is rooted in interest in the morbid, dark and macabre and people turned it into just aesthetic pictures. Also, I feel like most people ignore how in the subculture, there was an appreciation for the arts and literature, yet now it's just viewed as an aesthetic.

Also, another thing that bothers me is that goth is on the receiving end of an attack on its meaning and pillars. People on the internet and some I know have said "goth is as goth means to you". That would effectively mean goth does not exist as goth is an idea, a creative outlet, and when it doesn't have a set meaning, it doesn't exist. Also, a subculture is non-existent if it is not defined. Punk is not punk without fighting the system. Without it being defined and set, it would not exist. Why is goth any different. Goth is morbid, macabre and dark. Without that, it is not existent.

Why is goth being treated like this, well this might sound controversial, but there wasn't enough gate keeping. By people saying, sure you're goth when that person trying to join isn't interested in the music or darker topics. Thus, goth has been basterdized.

#goth #goth is a music based subculture #goth is morbid #goth is not an aesthetic