#honestly be glad english isnt gendered this sucks to keep track of

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Thats interesting that they named Brer Fox, Honest John, in one dub? Was the intention to make Brer Fox the same as the Fox in Pinocchio?

THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IT BOTHERS ME SO MUCH AHSJAGS !! Bc I honestly hate the fox from Pinocchio and hate that they were given the same name. Esp when Br'er Fox is already way less known than him >.>

But no, in the dubs he's never refered to as Honest John. His name was adapted to Comrade Fox / Fox / Brother Fox / Mister Fox in the movies. It was only in the comics and further material that he was renamed Honest John. Br'er Rabbit's name also changed to Quincas Rabbit and Br'er Bear's name was Big John in the comics.

Idt they tried to imply they were the same character, I think it was either a coincidence or homage of some sort, who knows. I highly doubt the people translating the comics even knew who Br'er Fox or what Song of the south was, tbh. That movie was never big here (even less so, i mean)

This is smth that most english speakers will never really see in their media, since english is usually the default. Adapting and dubbing over material to a different language is a hella MESSY process, and sometimes we as the public end up confused. Sometimes you end up with bad translations, bad adaptations, or several different studios that dub/adapt the same characters in different ways. Which is why he doesn't even have a canon name in Brazil, the way you call him will depend on which dub you used to watch.

He doesn't even have a canon gender in some places. Latin languages are gendered, and most animals are male. However, Fox (Raposa) is a female word by default. So in a few dubs in Italy he's actually changed to a female to make the translation easier.

So, yep, it was just a messy process and dumb decisions. Im still mad about it tho. I usually just call him Br'er Fox anyway, but if you ask me then his 'canon' name here is just Raposa (Fox) bc thats the dub i gew up with

#which means that he's refered to as “she” for most of the movie #bc Raposa is a female word so you cant use he for it #hes only refered to as he when his name isn't spoken #its weird af to explain in English and i can see why folks in Italy were like 'nah. too much work. that fox is a woman now' #and i mean props to whoever looked at his design and said thats a female fox now #female characters are rarely depicted as stupid or messy like he is so that honestly sounds interesting #hes definitely a male here #its just some weird grammar stuff going on #and i mean. he caught my eye so. def male #Foxy Loxy (from the original short) is also called Miss Fox and she while being a male #honestly be glad english isnt gendered this sucks to keep track of #either way these asks have been a nice distraction from a busy weekend so thanks anon! #since youre the only one reading this #well. you nd odin #BTW ODIN I LOVE YOY !!! #<33 #song of the south #ask #anon