#i also dont like NFTs but

[tangibletechnomancy]

One big point where I find people talking past each other in the AI art debate is that in art, there are a lot of things that aren't illegal - and shouldn't be - but are rude.

It's not illegal to use a sample of someone's copyrighted material in a sufficiently transformative way, and it should never become so. I could photomanipulate an image of Mickey Mouse into a landscape if I wanted and sell it as a print and not even Disney could stop me. It never has been illegal to do this. It never SHOULD be. If it was, we'd start seeing a ton of SLAPP suits over vaguely similar poses because...hey, guess what, referencing is using someone's copyrighted material in a transformative way. We all recognize the idea of trying to copyright a pose or sue someone for using a similar color palette to you or for looking at your art as inspiration as patently absurd - so much so that it's regularly brought up as a bad-faith argument in other copyright discussions! - but imagine if someone could. Disney sure as hell would - imagine no longer being able to write about public domain fairy tales because you publicly mentioned you liked the Disney movie about the same fairy tale once. That is what you're opening the door for when you try to manage the dataset ethics issue by copyright law.

However, on the other side...it's still really fucking rude to use someone's work in a transformative way outside of the bounds of 1) what is broadly socially permitted, and 2) what that artist requests.

Even though it would be decidedly not illegal for me to go and copy-paste a single pixel from a dozen other people's work into a canvas of my own and make my own piece out of it using only the scale, copy-paste, and smudge tools, it still has the potential to be extremely rude depending on who I'm taking it from and why. I'd love to do a piece like this to open a dialogue on how transformative a piece must be to no longer constitute "stealing", but I'm not going to sample those pixels from small-time illustrators who are already scared for what sampling could do to their livelihoods as a "ha ha~ I took your wo-ork and you ca-an't stop me~" because that would be incredibly fucking rude, well beyond the level of emotional impact needed to make the statement.

Image synthesis is, unquestionably, transformative enough to constitute fair use under current copyright law, and any amendment to the law that would make it not so opens the door to far more harm than it would ever prevent - but, as it transitions from being a fun scientific novelty to an actual useful product, it becomes rude at best to ignore artists' wishes in model training. In fact, it becomes rude on a level that may be best managed with privacy laws, since, let's face it, there are a lot of entities out there that not only don't CARE about not being extremely rude, but REVEL in being jackasses because the law can't stop them (looking at you, Unstable Diffusion).

#not art #as a side note i AM working on art made entirely of single 'pirated' pixels #but theyre from like. BIG name copyright trolls. really notorious ones. ones most of us know and hate here on tumblr dot com. #im also working on some queer joy art with pirated pixels from notorious queerphobes. it's a whole thing #oh you think im stealing from you for my own agenda? point to which pixel in your art i stole. i will wait. #but my spite is reserved solely for entities who arent just. taking concerns about their continued survivability a bit too far #this is only for the famously awful #i dont touch indies unless theyve outright filed a SLAPP against someone smaller than them or something equally egregious #also a couple of them come from nfts

[onemillionfurries]

my biggest pet peeve with web 2.0 dying is that people really think that the cryptobro web 3.0 is the inevitable next step. like it's written in stone that the internet will take the form of NFTs and cryptocurrency and the "metaverse" in the future.

like. come on. when was the last time you've actually seen anything NFT related in the year of our lord 2023? has ANYONE other than the cryptobros and their bots on twitter been talking about it?? what about the "metaverse"??? im pretty sure Meta itself even dropped their vr "metaverse" crap.

also even if the "mainstream" internet DOES go in that direction, that doesn't mean we need to follow? Despite the total takeover of web 2.0 and social media, personal sites and forums DO still exist. there are still IRC chats and MUCKs and MUDs. We will still have websites and web browsers in a web 3.0-dominated internet. even if those become niche.

plus, i think the whole reason web 2.0 and social media took off in the first place was because it was convenient. rather than building your own website from scratch, you instead had your own profile that you can easily upload photos to and set your mood and make small posts. people saw it as a way to easily keep up with friends, so they flocked to it.

what the fuck does web 3.0 offer to the average person? needing to put on a clunky, expensive set of goggles to virtually attend a work meeting? artificial scarcity assigned to shitty monkey jpegs?? other than techbros and billionares creating artificial hype around this shit to get people flocking there, what actually has people staying?

#twitter #web 2.0 #web 1.0 #old web #web 3.0 #please dont fucking despair about this shit yall #it is not an inevitability just because billionares wanna make money off of it #web 3.0 is the juicero of internet bullshittery #like if the entire NFT bubble can be popped by a single guy making a youtube video #then it is not as inevitable as you think #on that note: go watch Dan Olson's 'line goes up' and 'decentraland' videos to get you out of this doomed mindset #theyre great #lab notes #edit: some slight changes to how i phrase things bc its 2am and im tired #also: watch the Factually interview with Dan Olson after ur sone watching those videos i recommended too #its also rly good #old man yells at the cloud

[ozymoron]

i absolutely refuse to interact with any recent gorillaz stuff i dont wanna break my perception ive had of them since i was a kid

#⚠️ #as far as im aware everything after plastic beach doesnt exist #ive heard theyve changed and ive heard its bad #ik about the whole nft thing and like i keep getting shorts recommended to me of the characters like just sorta doing goofy antics like #omg!!!! 2d dont ride that ferris wheel you have to be on stage soon haha! You will never be the MTV gorillaz house tour #also maybe this is the nostalgia talking but i miss their grungey (? grungy?) aesthetic

[spearxwind]

do you fucking remember when a bunch of extremely famous artists that usually never even perceive social media started making twitter accounts to show off their work and interact with fans and then once everyone found them like 'oh my god this is literally my fave artist i can finally follow them!!' they started shilling their art as nfts

#ive never been so fucking mad in my life bro #cause like for a lil while a bunch of em showed up and i was so hyped about it #and then they were all like. yeah buy my nfts :) #ALSO ALSO when nfts started getting flak about their carbon print and a bunch of artists got sponsored to join that one 'green' nft platfor #i dont fucking remember what it was but they were like 'this is the one ethical nft site!! its ok to sell here!!' #and then i only ever saw it mentioned once or twice because it evaporated instantly #thunderclap

[cuubism]

dream: i have learned something today. perhaps humanity is not so bad after--

hob: hey look! cheez whiz! how neat! :D

dream: ..... it is time we had The Flood 2.0 and started over from scratch

#modern life is the bane of dream's existence this i assert #god the sandman is just so ripe for shitposting #dreamling #also like #i feel like dream is pretty good at figuring stuff out and i mean he has everyone's dreams to help #but he also missed out on history for a full century #so there's definitely a few months where he's just having like. constant fits of despair as hob shows him YET ANOTHER #newfangled and cursed invention #and what's funny is i dont think dream would be averse to like phones and the internet and stuff it's probably FASCINATING #from a dream perspective actually #what gets him is the fact that the grocery store has 168 brands of white bread #hes like why. for the love of god why #so much shit has happened to catch up on like #more happens in the 20th century in terms of technological developments and stuff than in like 3 centuries prior #dream looking around at climate change: destruction and despair i see you've been running the place in my absence hmm #hob: hey did you hear about this thing called nfts #dream. who has in fact heard of this from many many distressing dreams: no. no. do not speak to me of this cursed object #hob returning from babysitting a friends kid: god childrens media is awful nowadays isnt it? i mean granted i had literally sticks #to play with as a kid but they have this horrible show cocomelon-- #dream collapsing to the floor in a puddle of pure desolation: noooooooo i have already had to watch 500 million hours of babies dreams #of this shit why would you REMIND ME #the possibility for crack is literally endless pun intended

[sonknuxadow]

people rightfully make fun of ken penders a lot but how come barely anybody complains about how he thinks of himself as this creative genius when most of his characters are just recolors or already existing characters with barely changed designs but they're actually from an alternate universe or their child or parent or whatever. the only character of his that a lot of people actually like is scourge but people only like him based on what other writers and artists did with him. hell he didn't even make the design or name that everyone associates with scourge the original version of the character penders made is just. evil sonic with a leather jacket and sunglasses. yet he still takes credit for all those other people's work and makes money off the green design specifically. exploding him with my mind

#the list of ''original'' characters of his he planned to make nfts of just proves my point #green knuckles. the name already says enough #scourge. specifically the green design. ive already said the issue witj that #geoffrey st john. who i wouldnt say isnt original at all but also he sucks and ive never met a single person who likes him. So #robo robotnik. who is just satam robotnik but blue #julie su. who he claimed was the same character as shade frkm sonic chronicles #and used shades design for an nft design #and to be honest i dont think its entirely impossible for sonic chronicles to have taken a bit of inspo from archie sonic #but he did not create shade. sega owns shade. they just dont use her because they know hed throw a fit if they did #like come on how can you have such a big ego and this is the kinda stuff you make

[moonsfantasyworld]

dont mind me

mourning again the train wrack poppy playtime became

#spoilers just in case #i havent watched chapter 3 #i dont plan to #but i've been told by friends a bit how the game is on that chapter and #from all the changes to me that game is just NOt the same anymore #its not the same game #it feels as if the whole point of abandoned factory with monsters in it has been lost #things the fandom wondered about were confirmed yes #like the creatures being humans that were experimented on #or huggy being dead by a line poppy said on chapter 3 #but the fact they also killed kissy feels like a genuine slap to the face #it hurts #it hurts because that game was genuinly a very big positive thing to me until the developers fucked it up with their nfts and starting to #be money greedy bastards #im just sad and dissapointed #knowing how much comfort huggy used to bring me hurts to some level #he was so important to me #moony chaos #ramble i guess #vent

[itsbrucey]

another artfight related ask uhh don’t mind me- would it be ok if i put the ryan art you did (from the sexiest podcast character polls- what a time to be alive) on his profile? With credit and a link to your artfight btw btw! okok byeee

Yes absolutely!!! yeah I'm fine with people using my art of their OCS/ any characters in general as long as I'm credited somewhere! I usually watermark my @ somewhere into like....my Big Pieces but doodles usually don't got them.

#brucey answers! #i think the only things im not cool with are. obvious art theft. be it ai or nfts or just stealing shit #but if you wanna reference my stuff/using it on profiles/use art for character stuff then i dont mind! #Im just an idiot and most of my shit is free! #I'd prefer my stuff isn't traced but also like. it depends so i wouldn't be super bothered by it? shrugs

[gemharvest]

I think people vastly overestimate how "dead" DeviantART is nowadays tbh.

#ramblings #also i dont think it helps that if you dont disable ai images from being recommended to u thats basically all the home page is #but like it came up in a server the other day and literally right after i had said theres actually still a lot of people using it- #-someone went and said its just all AI and bad people like 😭😭 eclipse and the nft/ai stuff definitely drove out #a lot of people but its not a ghost town. ??! #though tbf i understand if it feels that way cuz any circle prior you may have gained all bailed with eclipse

[ace-thirst-trap]

My Auntie is a straight-shooting New York lady who takes no shit and is quick with a joke. I know her as good person who smokes and curses like a sailor.

We’re on the phone. She says “visit more”, and I tell her “I’m divorced so give me a break”. And it comes out that my ex is non-binary. Auntie goes “ugh!! Pronouns! Good riddance.” So I say, “All my friends have Pronouns. Get with the times, old lady.” And so on. We are both laughing.

My Mom was also on the call, but not laughing. Later, she tells me that I was arrogant. I deflect, but think “You taught me to hold my ground for what matters. My friends matter. My family also matters. A little attitude feels like a generous compromise in response to casual bigotry”

Anyway, I’m proud of myself for using the rough edge my Auntie taught me to defend the principles my Mom taught me. If you’re going to be rude to my friends, turnabout is fair play.

#personal rant #turnabout is fair play. #No more group calls #pronouns #old people are always like ‘pronouns are too hard’ #but then are like really into nfts or something #like I know you’re smart #you just dont want to examine your own life and youre projecting #I also casually mentioned some gender stuff #and my aunt was like ‘dont think critically about your gender #what if you get confused??? #like cmon #Thats kind of the point? How will you learn anything abiut yourself if youre afraid #Anyway #im right #and like ill visit when you break a hip or whatever

[darkredpaladin]

Ahaga fuck the college shit is getting wirse

#not allowed to draw and do anything i like anymore because my fucking asshole dad wants me to stop doing all this shit #because i cant even fucking finish the task he told me to do thats related to the exam #even tho #I WAS ALSO FUCKING BUSY WITH WRITING MY HOMEWORK MY TUTOR GAVE TO ME FOR THE EXACT SAME EXAM #so basically my life is now complwtely bleak and devoid of all the shit that i used to consider worth staying alive for #i dont even want to work in the animation industry anymore let alone be an artist #i fucking miss my old job i fucking miss everything i had going on before my parents decided that im not allowed to decide on my own lufe an #-d forced this future on me #i miss being able to get money #i miss being happy #ok thats a life im nefer gappy #but that was the closest thing to happiness i had #and the worst part is? im scared of what will happen if j ended up failing this exam anyways #i dont even want to join this specific college they forced me to join #in fact if the scenario of me joining college ever happened then i already know the exact place i wanted to go #BUT NAH #NO CHOICES FOR ME ONLY MY DAD'S FRIEND'S WORKPLACE (the college he works at) #I DONT EVEN WANT TK BECOME AN ARTIST ANYMORE ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THIS UNFAIR NFT AI ART SHIT #I HATE THIS I MISS WORKING AT THE BOOKSTORE #AGHH #vent

[riv-rs]

bro kill me now my internship is something else and these 20 weeks are gonna be a test of patience and seeing where my limit is for shit i can tolerate

#the work itself is great and i love what im learning #but also one of my classmates i need to get along with for now is kinda right wing and says her generation is way too woke #and whenever she complains one of the co-founders amusedly agrees or jokes in some way #the n word with the hard r was dropped which did have me like dude thats not okay #and one of them watches me like a hawk cause im p sure he figured im massively uncomfortable but bearing it #they're looking into ai possible replacing certain things for them like concept art thus no longer needing concept artists #and they made nfts too #if i'd knoWN.... i wouldnt have gone here and been in friesland doing printing work which isnt what i wanna learn bUT YKNOW #i need my papers so i can't quit but i am... Bearing It #i can't even talk to school about some of the wholly inappropriate stuff of today cause they're on very good terms with the school #esp one of the teachers sO LIKE....... just..... grin and bear it..... make nice and then go DEAD SILENT on them forever #i dont want me having worked there on my cv either

[bogkeep]

i'm laughing so hard... yeah. yeah. unlike twitter where the "following/followers" numbers are RIGHT THERE, over here i have no clue how many people i'm following unless i deliberately check for it. it's not like i'm trying to catch up on my dashboard, i just want it to be full of art because i fucking love art

#longlostpath is my sideblog. for context #then again im following like 800+ people on twitter #i tried to keep the number managable back when i still caught up on my feed #but now i scroll twitter maybe for 5 minutes a day. rt some nice art. leaves when i see something stressful #twitter just also happens to be like. Networking Space and it's nice to have cool artist mutuals #and so often its like. i see a cool artist. i quickly check if they do nfts. and if they dont i follow #correction: twitter was a nice networking space before it became absolutely unbearable to be on

[cutemeat]

see if rcg dont do a macden sex tape arc next season… i’ll be confused n appalled cuz itd just be SUCH a wasted opportunity !!!

esp cuz Charlie mentioned the Pam & Tommy shit on the podcast (which is Already a Hulu original aka part of the house that pays their bills so that makes me 👀) to segue-way into the whole Penaissance convo which exactly mirrors the Thunder Gun 4 shit 😭… n also cuz s15 was just “The Gang Does National Lampoon’s European Vacation” and in that film the parents , before going on their vacation, make a sex tape… and thats like a thing that they forget abt but gets brought back up again later (and then i think they totally just dropped the plotline but whatever LOL).. and the references to porn and PETER NORTH in Frank’s part of the 2020 in Review ep… and in that same ep mac and dennis “making music together” w dennis’ bedroom door open (which it hasnt been in a while now) in the BG of that shot with of them in the foreground on the couch… and all the Brokeback references … come on. i wanna see a whole drawer of macden sex tapes lets GO!! itd be such a fun gimmick. and they could skirt around the network n Middle America bs by making it some sort of BONUS feature if u will … set up a site for it.. break the fourth wall a little more come onnn..

#like its an Obvious plotline but its still GOOD!!!! #n theres so much potential for add ons that cna make u more money if thats the angle the studio needs 4 it #i’d pay listen… they donate the funds to some LGBT charity for PR #they sell the macden sex tapes itd be EVERYTHING #*NOT as an NFT …. Rob & Keyonna 🙃🙃 #i loved LW7 im rlly sad she got into all the NFT/crypto shit too 😭😭 oh well. no one in Hollywood man no one in Hollywood… #shes still so funny tho i hope she comes back for s16 #anyway back to whatever this is #hmmm wehre was i… #oh YEA charge me actual money n i’d pay #i’d actually maybe pay an insane amount.. no crypto but an insane amount #if the bros with cash will buy their $999 whiskey… my version of that is the Macden sex tape #dipped in gold or whatever.. they cant hav an emmy but they can sell a gold sex tape cmon #yeah i’d find a way to pay . listen… im just *saying* #honestly they could still get the Boys to buy in i bet .. for the collectors limited edition value or whatever #yknow what. u can sell it as n NFT if u Must for them but gimme the option of a physical copy #they can waste their money but i dont wanna. gimme #they hav such a cult following of an audience n that was proven with the whiskey #god also i need a Sunny boxset more than anything #ok back 2 s16 stuff #they can tease the plotline in the promo by doing the Prom PSA tapes … again i hav a whole promo campaign. #they do those PSAs in the style of 80s ‘no drinking n driving’ videos they used to make 4 the teenz before prom… come on. #‘USE PROTECTION’ 😭😭😭 #sunny abistenence PSA tape… the irony… even worse would be the no drinking n driving PSA from The Gang of all ppl… #COME ON I LOVE CHEESY PROMO #LIKE COME ON THE BEST PUNCHLINE WOULD BE A NO DRINKING N DRIVING PSA ‘from your friends at Paddys Pub’ LIKE #itd be a Mac n Chalrie Die Callback LIKE THEY HAVE FOOTAGE GROM THAT TAPE CLIPPED INTO ONE OF THE PSAS THATD BE FUNNY #listen i Know i am setting myself up cuz my expectations for s16 are so unreasonably high but i will still be disappointed #the breaking the fourth wall thing of the whiskey not being the set up for the punchline of s16 getting more homoerotic/depressing #not doing the prom themed promo.. not doing the macden sex tape arc… sighhhh

[odysseys-blood]

been thinking abt smthn a professor said that rubbed me the wrong way (when telling me to dial back on trying to do so much detail for class projects he said "you're moving from art into craft") and while it does just feel like he was just saying words at me its also like. why is craft work considered so lowly compared to fine art? is it cause a lot of women are placed into the category of doing craft instead of "art"? do you know how intensive most craft work is. things like textiles and jewelry making and metal work arent considered art to you just because theyre usually more utilitarian? because they can be touched freely and dont have to be kept separated with a panel of glass and velvet rope around it? its wild. anyways fuck that

#cliffnotes/.txt #idk if its just bc hes a photoshop artist or what but. craft artists are the world to me #i cant even compare bc my skills with sewing and weaving are mediocre #but its so #stupid. #also feel like it was a bit sexist bc i dont wanna say it but its not like anyone irl considers me anything but a woman so. #like just say to focus more on getting the work done than perfectionism #all u had to do #now ur nothing but a poser to me #this professor was also into nfts btw. lol.

[mychlapci]

well i finally watched both knives out movies and. its nice to be reminded how compelling a stupid murder mystery story can be

#we love to see an elderly gay awkwardly solve crimes #i also really love the whole story from a in-universe point of view #because this is happening in modern times. our times. with all the bad shit in plain sight #but like. blanc is a cooky old timey noir private detective and he's like. famous for it #which isnt really a thing that happens nowadays like maybe the private detectives suck these days #but like. i dont think they would get famous by solving crimes. i think they could get rich #but having someone go 'oh youre that guy you solved that ballerina's murder' like that's wonderfully and whimsically cartoonish #and i love it #this is a world where twitch streaming and nfts exist #but there are also noir detectives running around in the wild. smoking cigars and wearing gay little costumes #also the fucking mona lisa does not exist in this universe. like. not anymore. #thats so fucked upppp