#kotz movie

[wickedwizdom]

Lets talk Knights of the Zodiac:

This review will be mostly positive based on my own experience but I still will have my criticisms as I go along. To begin I want to be very transparent here and say after watching this movie: It is NOT--I repeat--NOT “Dragon Ball Evolution 2.0” like many people claim online. This movie's characters, script, dialogue, action, and story are leaps and bounds more faithful to the source material it is adapting and showing respect for it all the same. I'm positive those who keep claiming that it is have never watched the movie or are just speaking utter nonsense because let’s be real: Dragon Ball Evolution is beyond bad and KOTZ—objectively—is not.

This movie is perfectly fine; very fun I might add. It definitely stands up there with the likes of Alita: Battle Angel in terms of anime adaptations and as a movie it gets the job done.

Now for the fans going into this story expecting it to be verbatim like the original animanga, you are not going to find that here. This movie is very much an origin story for this particular universe of Saint Seiya with its own key lore and world building that takes influence from the Netflix reboot but actually executed those aspects better in comparison to how the CG show did it. I certainly appreciate this movie trying something new with its setting and story in comparison to LoS which told a very rushed rendition of the Silver Saints and Twelve Temples arc and I believe if this movie did the same thing, my expectations would be significantly lower and my criticisms far more harsher.

From an objective standpoint, this movie’s pacing definitely could use some improvement. I definitely appreciate what the writers and directors could give with the runtime they had but when it comes to character such as Nero and Seiya and Sienna’s time spent bonding, there’s definitely something to be left desired, Nero especially but we’ll get to him later. The script itself is okay, can be basic in some areas, cheesy in others but never anything that made me actually cringe. The movie’s music is otherwise really good. The orchestral Pegasus Fantasy rendition was definitely a highlight of the film for me and the music that plays through a lot of the action and somber scenes is really atmospheric.

To add, I know there were some fans that complained that not all the bronzes were here but I’m pretty sure that was for the movie’s benefit. Introducing so many characters all at once would mean that audiences would have no time to connect with them and the story would have been bloated and full of plot holes. I love how they kept the core cast as just Seiya, Nero, and Sienna for the time being to get us more familiar to their world before moving onto the others.

As for other things, the set pieces and CGI aren't terrible. It's definitely a step above most tokusatsu shows and movies but not on the level of something like Alita or some MCU movies. It's passable but definitely not a complete eye sore.

Some shots are a bit goofy but they don't linger too long and I think it adds to the charm of this being an otherwise fun action film based on an even more zany and violent anime. The fights are all well-choreographed and filmed. I saw some complaints about the lighting being dark but that's not the case here. Everything in the movie is well lit and it's obvious who's who.

I thought the armors looked pretty okay and knowing that Kurumada actually approved them looking more medieval and archaic rather than how they were in the original animanaga makes for a nice creative detail that gives this movie more uniqueness in the StS verse.

Slight spoilers here but it is confirmed and shown in the movie that the armors do in fact evolve like how they do in the original manga and anime so if this movie does get its potential sequels, I look forward to seeing how they translate that.

⚠️SPOILERS FROM HERE ON OUT⚠️

To move onto characters I enjoyed a majority of the main cast throughout the movie. Everyone not only understood the characters they were portraying but giving them their own charm and nuances to make them feel more like individuals.

To start with the main man Seiya, he's a lot more reserved here, because he is a lot older, but some of his attitude from the animanaga still remains like his brash attitude and his unwavering resolve to never give up. His character is quite complex with this movie going further in detail about the conflict he has with losing his sister, his obsession with finding her, and his hesitance to accept Sienna as a goddess until he witnesses it for himself. I appreciate them putting more and more time into emphasizing Seiya's relationship with his sister and Seiya at a crossroads between finding her and protecting Sienna all at once as opposed to how the anime/manga did it.

Seika is almost forgotten after the first few episodes/chapters of the original so it was nice to see that she had more of an impact on Seiya's character here.

Next, we have Sienna and I'm going to say that she is the best iteration of the Saori Kido character. While some of the pacing of her scenes were a little off at times, it didn't matter because I was engaged with what they did with her in this film. This story focuses on Sienna's humanity as opposed to the original where Saori has pretty much already accepted what she is and we never truly get to see a lot of her struggle with her heritage and most of that was relegated to the very beginning of the series. Here, Athena is the equivalent of a malevolent spirit that Sienna is constantly trying to drown out. From the way, she speaks about Athena to her parents and how that separated them feels real. She is a toung woman who’s not only caught in the middle of a broken family she cares for but is essentially a ticking time bomb. She accepts that she may not be herself one day but you can tell that deep down she doesn't want to believe that. She starts off as the typical haughty rich girl towards Seiya and while I do think that their relationship could have used a few more scenes of them getting used to each other, it still feels plausible that he cares for her I’m the end. I would be a bit of a brat too if I was going to become doomsday incarnate one day. Here she suffers loss but in turn finds a new purpose and reason to keep living. At a core it is her human side that matters most.

I also adore that Sienna starts off not in complete control of her cosmo. It gives more presence to the gods in this scenario and how dangerous their cosmo is to a regular human. It makes me really excited to see what gods late like in this universe but only time will tell.

Moving onto Alman and Guraad since they're basically two sides of the same coin. Making Alman a morally ambiguous man who is not all good fits very in line with the Mitsumasa in the original animanaga. The slow unraveling of the truth that he first and foremost only cares about his daughter is perfect and sets up the domino effect that will extend to all the children he used as a means to an end.

Guraad on the other hand is a MILLION times better than the Guraad in the Netflix reboot. Not only does she feel appropriate as an antagonist but she gives better layer to the conflict of fighting against the gods and at the same time having to come with the burden of killing her surrogate daughter to do so. Sienna and Guraad share a bond that feels genuine and when her maternal instincts shine it's wonderfully executed. It adds so much more emotionally weight knowing that a complete accident on Sienna’s end pushed away who she considered family and Guraad realizing that to makes her attempt to save Sienna feel earned.

Moving onto Alman and Guraad since they're basically two sides of the same coin. Making Alman a morally ambiguous man who is not all good fits very in line with the Mitsumasa in the original animanaga. The slow unraveling of the truth that he first and foremost only cares about his daughter is perfect and sets up the domino effect that will extend to all the children he used as a means to an end.

Now we have Nero. I love Ikki in almost every universe and here it is no different. The mystery behind his character and past along with him as an antagonist is one of the best but weakest aspects of his character in this movie in my opinion. His true motives are unclear but from what a lot of people have speculated and based on Diego himself, his motivations largely have to do with Shun. Potentially Nero does not know where his brother is and I think that would make for a great parallel between Seiya and Nero if this series is to continue. He definitely has a vendetta against the gods and has the Sagittarius armor in his possession but at what ends? His character toward the end leaves more questions than answers and I wish we got a fair balance of flashbacks from his perspective to compare/contrast with Seiya’s. He is a threat through and through and the movie does well in establishing the bar that is set between him and Seiya. He's definitely a character I want to see expanded upon more in the future and what ulterior motives he has going on as it seems that Guraad was a stepping stone for things to come. I want more of him and I hope to god we do.

Marin is, dare I say, perfect. Everything from her nonchalant demeanor, to the way she trains Seiya, THE WAY SHE GOES TO SLEEP and her presence she's easily another favorite of mine in the movie next to Sienna. We get just enough of her to see what she's all about but like Nero, I hope we do see more of her. She serves the purpose she’s meant to in the story and I was quite confused about her “bound to this island by destiny” schtick (which was really an excuse to keep her out of the third arc) but overall she’s just awesome.

And last but not least Mylock. Easily he's better than Tatsumi by a country mile. The writers actually managed to make a dull asshole of a character into a fun and entertaining one. His action scenes were a highlight and were just classic king fu action that I just adore.

The story overall centers around the ideals surrounding family, humanity, and fighting through a destiny that’s not completely set in stone. It’s very anime but at the same time is personable and relatable in some way or another.

To conclude : Knights of the Zodiac is a fun film with great action, solid writing, a talented main cast of characters, and I was genuinely surprised at how much I ended up liking it. It shows respect or to the source material while doing its own thing and that’s honestly the best route it could have gone. It could have been way worse.

It’s a solid 7/10. Had some bumps in the road but it managed to make it to its destination safe and sound. Regardless of performance, I will definitely watch sequels.

#saint seiya #knights of the zodiac #kotz #sts #pegasus seiya #sienna kido #phoenix ikki #andromeda shun #kotz live action #kotz movie

[anchora-andal]

CRACK THEORY

Well, we all know that in the first movie of Saint Seiya, only Seiya, Saori and Ikki will be in.

For now, it's seems that Hyoga, Shiryu and Shun will be in the upcoming movies, since the director said they are developing a franchise with six movies.

Ok, so... Why Shun don't seems to be cited in any form by the crew or in leaked plot in the SDCC?

I have three hypotesis, but I will elaborate in just one

Shun will be in the first movie, but will not reveal himself as Knight until the end.

Shun will be only in the second, he still training by the time of the first movie.

Shun is not Shun, like... He is with Pandora

Now, the first one to me, don't makes sense, like... Ikki is wreaking havoc, Saori seems to be stalked all over the world with Seiya and Mitsumasa by him, then, WHY THE HECK Shun will not reveal himself, even to question Ikki about what is happening or helping Seiya?

The second one seems to be the easy option and let's be honest, Toei will pull this one to explain the absence of Shun in a movie were Ikki still is fueled by hate. Now, I don't like that 'cause Shun is necessary to Ikki to redeem in original anime and manga, in manga Ikki begs perdon of Shun in the Twelve Houses about the time that he almost killed him. Shun, the sweetheart he is, says to Ikki that he never blamed him and was happy that the brother affectionate and careful was back. Then... For me, does not makes sense Shun TO NOT be in Ikki's arc.

The third one, the one that all my braincells have been dying trying to make a sense in the theory.

So, we all know that Shun is Hades vessel and Pandora tried to take him as a newborn to create him specifically to be Hades, but Ikki (and Shun in a extension) stopped her to take him away.

In the timeline of the movie, Pandora succeeds in take care of Shun and since then, he is with her, being trained to be Hades new host, Lord of the Specters and to win the Holy War, since the movie follows the logic of the Netflix series Prophecy in which Athena will fail in an era where hades will have a lot of power.

So Pandora takes Shun, wipes out Ikki's memories about a little brother and Ikki grows without knowing that he has a brother, bht he has a sensation about something... Likes, he senses that are something quite not right, but he never truly elaborates on that, a void to say.

Ikki has a relationship (or not) with Esmeralda, she kinda remind him of his mother (as Ikki doesn't remember Shun so he never makes the Esmeralda-Shun connection), Esmeralda dies, Ikki discards his feelings, 'cause now, there's nothing from the past binding him to sense. Seiya works a way to get Ikki out of his madness, and then Ikki begins to be the lonely wolf, helping Seiya and Saori sometimes (until he joins definitely the group eith Shiryu and Hyoga) but he still has the same void and feeling about something missing.

Later in the movies, Seiya and company meets the specters and the will meet Shun, the rest is rest and somehow, Ikki and Shun will learn the truth.

Or another theory is that everyone knew eachother in childhood, Mitsumasa send them to the training camp, Shun never arrived in Andromeda Island (Pandora shinigamis) Graad assume that Shun died in the way to there, Ikki will blame Mitsumasa about Shun death and the events of the movie like he allied himself with the female version of Guraad will play out in a matter of vengeance. But Shun will be alive, just... Without memory and with Pandora.

It's just a crack theory, don't take too seriously, this movie will be a mess. Maybe not, but, I will have fun with theories.

Sorry about any errors, english is not my first language

And yes, I called them by the original names.

#andromeda shun #saint seiya #saint seiya movie #saint seiya kotz #kotz #kotz movie #phoenix ikki #pandora #crack

[nayadefenix]

first drawing of the anniversary special hollyober reinterpretation of IKKI DE FÊNIX from the anime Saint seiya. ''"I have no obligation to tell you my name, but if I don't you will go to hell without knowing who ended your despicable life. But that won't be fair, so I'll introduce myself and I hope you never forget me… I'm Phoenix Ikki!"

espanol:

Primer dibujo de la reinterpretación hollytober especial de aniversario de IKKI DE FÊNIX del anime Saint Seiya. ''"No tengo obligación de decirte mi nombre, pero si no lo hago te irás al infierno sin saber quién acabó con tu despreciable vida. Pero eso no será justo, así que me presentaré y espero que Nunca me olvides… ¡Soy Phoenix Ikki!"

BR:

primeiro desenho do hollytober especial de aniversario releitura do IKKI DE FÊNIX do anime Saint Seiya. ''"Eu não tenho nenhuma obrigação de lhe dizer o meu nome, mas se eu não dizer irá pro inferno sem saber quem acabou com sua desprezível vida. Mas isso não será justo, por isso vou me apresentar e espero que nunca se esqueça de mim… Sou Ikki de Fênix!"

#Hollytober #hollyhollynigthmare #saint seiya kotz #saint seiya #saint seiya movie #saint seiya the beginning #saint seiya legend of sanctuary #saintseiya #phoenix ikki #ikki de fenix #diego tinoco #kotz #kotz movie #kotz live action #knights of the zodiac

[zanephillips]

DIEGO TINOCO as NERO KNIGHTS OF THE ZODIAC (2023)

#diego tinoco #nero #phoenix #knights of the zodiac #kotz #movie #film #filmedit #actor #men #menedit #filmgifs #cinemapix #cinematv #userstream #dailyflicks #userfilm #gifs #mine #* #phoenix nero

[catfir]

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#from that asgard movie #HE WAS SO CUTE #saint seiya #knights of the zodiac #los caballeros del zodiaco #kotz #look art #pegasus seiya #saint seiya fanart

[quixoticprince]

Was not expecting Aiolos to come back as a moth ngl, KoTZ making some bold moves. I’ve also taken the liberty of explaining why he didn’t contact his brother:

Been some ups and downs this season but I’m still looking to more. Also thanks to Jinbeizaki for the imagery for this lol

#saint seiya #sts #knights of the zodiac #kotz #leo aiolia #kotz spoilers #eagle marin #If a bug tried speaking to me I would have to kill him #not trying to recreate bee movie here #Also I thought the bracer on marins left arm was a ribbon ;o; I dont wanna go back and change it tho

[jinbeizaki]

Aiolos & Shura in Knights of the Zodiac (live action) teaser

The only reason to be interested about this movie.

#Sagittarius Aiolos #Capricorn Shura #Knights of the Zodiac #Saint Seiya #Live Action KOTZ #To say I'm very VERY doubtful about this movie is an euphemism #But like with anything that has those two characters I'll be watching it #They will be the only thing I am interested into #PLEASE DON'T RUIN THIS SCENE LIKE IN THE CGI ANIME #PLEASE I AM BEGGING YOU

[monoukotori]

oh hey you're my resident saint seiya mutual, and sorry if its out of the blue but i gotta ask: what are your opinions of the upcoming live action movie?? what is the general consensus in the fandom??? it's just that i saw the trailer and in like 2 weeks no one has said anything about it online so i feel like maybe i hallucinated the whole thing

@sw4tch

The opinions in general are mixed

There are a people (mostly casual fans that haven't watched the anime since they were like 12) comparing it to dragon ball evolution and calling it garbage before it premiers

There are other people (me included) that are not very excited about it but are willing to give it a chance and have an open mind

There are the ones optimistic about the film, specially now that it premiered in Japan and the Japanese fans seemed to like it (this caused people from the first group to make racist comments about how japanese people don't get STS and the only true fans are Latinos who believe the film will suck ass, bleh 😮‍💨)

And finally a couple of people who are really excited to see saint Seiya in the big screen. I've seen like 3 people in this group

Regardless of their opinion the fandom (most of it) seems to generally agree that we need to support the film cuz the success of it will determine if new projects will be produced or not

Also Toei and Sony have done a terrible job with the marketing, and is the fandom the one currently trying to hype up the movie because we are getting close to zero publicity, so it's more important to support the movie regardless if we think it will be good or bad

So, basically "the future is uncertain but will go watch it anyways"

#saint Seiya #saint seiya kotz #sts #saint Seiya movie

[whatdididothisyear]

#knights of the zodiac #kotz #movie #2023 #may #esp #cinema

[cinemaquiles]

Cinema e história baseado em fatos reais: O último batalhão (The Lost Battalion, 2001)

#The Lost Battalion #2001 movies #war movies #based on a true story #Russell Mulcahy #Ricky Schroder #Phil McKee #Jay Rodan #Rhys Miles Thomas #Jamie Harris #Daniel Caltagirone #Adam James #Wolf Kahler #Anthony Azizi #George Calil #Adam Kotz #Derek Kueter #Tim Matthews #Hugh Fraser #Finbar Lynch #Michael Brandon #first world war #argonne #Youtube

[pian-ran]

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#i can't even watch the kotz movie my girl saori was done so dirty

[vintagewarhol]

#touching evil #tv shows #paul abbott #robson green #nicola walker #michael feast #adam kotz #andrew scarborough #shaun dingwall #illustration #vintage art #alternative movie posters

[landofanimes]

Favorite Saint Seiya Spin-off

Yeah, Legend of Sanctuary and KOTZ are not really spin-offs, but retellings/reimaginings of the classic series. I just said spin-off cause it's easier :P Maybe I should say non-canon? Anyway...

Naturally I'm including Hades Chapter in the classic series, even if it came much later. Next Dimension is also out since it's Kurumada's work.

#saint seiya #episode g #the lost canvas #saint seiya omega #saintia sho #soul of gold #knights of the zodiac #legend of sanctuary #caballeros del zodiaco #cdz

[nayadefenix]

*IKKI ACCOMPANYING JUNE AND SHUN AT THE DOCTOR*

DOCTOR:-Are you virgins?

*Shun looks at June, who then looks at Ikki who is all nervous*

Ikki:- Doctor Shun replied, are you a virgin?

Shun:- We are, sex only after marriage.

June:- that's it.

Doctor:-So, how can you explain this positive pregnancy test to me?

*Ikki turns to Shun extremely nervous*

#saint seiya kotz #saint seiya #saint seiya the beginning #saint seiya movie #saint seiya legend of sanctuary #saintseiya #ikki de fenix #phoenix ikki #chameleon june #andromeda shun #shun andromeda #legend of sanctuary #cdz #knights of the zodiac #los caballeros del zodiaco #my art #os cavaleiros do zodiaco #quotes on tumblr #saint seiya quotes

[mas-de-saint-seiya]

So… about that Live Action movie

Yesterday I had the chance to watch it so, if you’re interested, here’s my little review of it. If you are expecting an adaptation of the 80’s, classic story written by Kurumada sorry to inform you will be disappointed but if you are expecting a movie of the Netflix’s adaptation this film has you! Both on similar story and that USA necessity of changing the names (Seiya being probably the only one who kept his name. Just like in the Netflix KotZ serie) The visual effects were not bad to be honest, it wasn’t anything mind blowing but I was genuinely surprised they didn’t look awful. I’d even say they are at par and sometimes even better looking than some Marvel films now a days but the true star of the movie is the fights choreography and the director knew it. I had genuine fun watching the fights, they were shot in a very stylized way. It was really good watching a movie who was not afraid to be over the top on it’s choices. The acting was… it was. I’d say everyone did an alright job, the two stand outs being Mark Dacascos as Mylock (Tatsumi’s version of the film) was very charismatic and fun to watch and Arata Mackenyu does a good job as Seiya. Feels organic. The biggest actor the film has is Sean Bean and is good he was not in auto pilot but actually playing the role given. I appreciated that.

Overall, I think the movie was alright. Not a Saint Seiya live action but definitely a Knights of the Zodiac Live action and I’ll even say the writing was better than the Netflix show at times. If you liked Netflix’s KotZ you will definitely like this movie, and if you didn’t but you still go with that in mind I do believe you’ll have fun. 

#Knights of The Zodiac #Saint Seiya Live Action #Saint Seiya

[lowlychild]

About the movie (spoilers maybe?)

the kotz movie was something i didn't expect it to be at all. i thought i was gonna cringe during the whole thing (i did a few times c'mon), but at the end i found myself enjoying it.

famke janssen and sean bean were the highlight of the movie, obviously, but i think everyone did a good job with their roles and they didn't change their personalities much (except for tatsumi, but that was good). i personally enjoyed marin's scenes a lot. i'm glad i can finally see a good adaptation of her, considering how they massacred her in the original anime. ACTUALLY, i'm glad they didn't make it remotely close to the it, given it makes absolutely no sense at times (if you want to fight me on this go touch grass or something). i'd be cool if they sticked a bit more to the manga, but even if they don't i honestly don't mind.

the choreographed fights were amazing and i think they elevated the film. that ikki vs seiya was cool af. i obviously didn't like a lot of things, like the way it felt stagnant at times, the design of the cloths or the lack of the other bronze knights. nevertheless, it is called "the beginning", so i think it has a lot of potential.

it's not the best ss adaptation by far, but calling it a "dbe dupe" is ridiculous. it's something that always happens among ss fans, someone says something bad and it sticks forever. you don't have to like it but please form your own opinions, i'm begging you.

overall, it was entertaining. i hope they can continue the story from where they left it.

#me.txt #knights of the zodiac #saint seiya #also. i don't care enough to fight with y'all lol #yes i'm coming back just for this #spoilers #additionally if you go with the disposition to hate of course you will #but all the years i've been in this fandom have taught me that sometimes ppl shit on spin offs or adaptations without even watching #or reading them #that's all