#kuro132

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Let's talk about the "Fenian brotherhood" theory !! :D

Firstly, in case you don't know about it, please go read the theory that our!Ciel's birth name might be Fenian/Fionn/Finnian by @azuresins. It is incredibly relevant to what I'm about to explain next !

TBH, I don't really care about discovering our!Ciel's birth name. However, I truly enjoy this theory and I think it makes a lot of sense, because I absolutely agree with the idea of Vincent supporting (secretly or not) Irish independence, turning him into a political enemy of Queen Victoria...

...which could be very much why he ended up dead.

This theory comes from a private convo with my friend, @dorkshadows and I'll sum up their thoughts (and some of mine) below the cut !

First of all, while we think Claudia, Vincent's predecessor, may have been a personal enemy of Victoria because of whatever happened when Albert died in 1861, Vincent strikes us more as a political enemy precisely because of Brown's comment in ch108.

After all, if our!Ciel, who just managed to thwart their plans of getting the sulin gas, is "more like his father everyday", then it makes sense that Vincent "got in the way" of some of Victoria & JB's war/political plans too. >_>

Now, about the Fenian Cycle book: it was an important symbol for Irish independence and the Fenian Brotherhood that started in the 19th century before it got dissolved in 1880. To quote Wikipedia:

"The Fenian Brotherhood traced their origins back to 1790s, in the rebellion, seeking an end to British rule in Ireland initially for self-government and then the establishment of an Irish Republic. The rebellion was suppressed, but the principles of the United Irishmen were to have a powerful influence on the course of Irish history."

But how would Vincent even get involved with it and why?

In the theory that OC's name is Fenian/Finnian, @azuresins mentioned that maybe it's all related to Cedric K. Ros having Celtic origins. Since we do have one sketch by Yana of one twin bringing the Fenian Cycle book to the Undertaker (the most likely candidate for Cedric K. Ros)...

...it might indeed be a partial answer.

There is another possibility though, entirely thought by @dorkshadows, which is that Rachel (and Ann) might have been of Irish origins too.

After all, a common stereotype for Irish people in many stories is red hair and it's hard to forget that it was a very distinctive characteristic of Ann, Rachel's sister !

In fact, one of their first interactions is Vincent telling Ann to be proud of that hair, which we were told she inherited from her dad, the twins' maternal grandfather.

So Vincent might have not just been talking about Ann's hair color in that scene, but more specifically about her taking more pride in her Irish origins. Obviously though, Dalles/Durless aren't very Irish names, but it is possible that their original family name got anglicized into a more traditionally English name.

In any case, Vincent met Rachel and Ann after already knowing their father :

So it's possible that Vincent was, as the Watchdog, investigating Lord Durless as a nobleman with Irish lineage and possible ally of the Fenian Brotherhood. After all, to quote this article, "the Fenians in England and the British Empire were a major threat to political stability". Then Vincent met and fell in love with Rachel, thus deciding to support the Brotherhood instead.

I'd add that Vincent supporting such a cause simply makes sense, considering that the Phantomhive family, too, might have been burdened by the Watchdog's duty generations ago, because of their "different" lineage (full theory here). On top of that, if you add the possibility that Cedric/UT also was of Celtic origins (many decades or centuries ago) and that Vincent knew Claudia's death was Victoria's fault, it only makes sense that he'd eventually politically antagonize the Queen (both for his parents' sake and for Rachel's).

@dorkshadows also pointed out that, to this day, we don't know if the twins' maternal grandfather is alive or dead in canon : he was important enough to be mentioned in Red's flashback but has been missing from the narrative ever since. Timeline-wise, he could be dead, especially since we never saw him in the Blue Memory arc (our!Ciel's flasback), but we never know with Yana (look at Claudia being hinted in panels ever since the circus arc and probably being incredibly relevant), so it's worth keeping in mind.

Then, moving on to ch132 we know that, when the twins were born, Rachel is the one who named them.

Coincidentally (read: it's probably not a coincidence xD), ch132 had the cover with Vincent reading the Fenian Cycle book to the twins and it's also the chapter in which Vicar Rathbone casually says that one twin/both twins (it's deliberately ambiguous in Japanese) have a name that is "rare for England" :

Many fans, myself included, thought that "Ciel" was the name being discussed there, but maybe they were actually talking about our!Ciel's celtic birth name ! To quote @azuresins, in that case that'd basically mean that, in that scene above, "Vincent said to an ENGLISH PRIEST [...] that people of Celtic origin deserved freedom, and to be treated better and that it probably was soon to come".

No wonder that Vicar Rathbone would immediately change the topic lmao ! xD

Vicar Rathbone be like

It is also very meaningful that Rachel decided to give the "Fionn/Fenian/Finnian" name to our!Ciel ("the spare"), as if to emphasize that he was free to make his own path in life, as the second son, unburdened by earldom. Choosing such a meaningful name might even be a parallel to Vincent's own situation with Frances as his spare, since both also have names with a meaning relating to victory and freedom.

Another important detail, as @azuresins already explained here, is that Fenian Cycle is also a tale of revenge and that our!Ciel parallels Fionn big deal, making it all even more relevant. And maybe Yana left other hints in her artworks too...

Finally, historically the Fenian Brotherhood officially got dissolved around 1880 (the twins were 5 years old), but it's always possible that, in Kuroverse, Vincent managed to make it thrive secretly as the Watchdog. The Fenian Brotherhood caused several incidents, including after 1880 (they assassinated a British Chief Secretary in 1882), so it wouldn't be impossible that the Queen eventually found out that Vincent didn't properly take care of them, because he was supporting them.

And when she found out? Well, she branded Vincent a political enemy and we know the rest (the household was massacred in 1885 and the killer most likely received help from real!Ciel, more details in the real!Ciel mastermind theory hehe).

The idea that Vincent ultimately became a political enemy of Victoria because he fell in love with Rachel makes their death...

...even more emotional to me, since Rachel probably died trying to protect Vincent. T_T

TL;DR that's the Fenian Brotherhood theory: because they supported an Irish rebellious group that wanted freedom, Vincent & Rachel were branded political enemies of Victoria and she & JB plotted their deaths, which led in happenstance to the RCMT.

(friendly reminder that the twins are 7, when Vincent asked Dee to look after them should he die)

I hope it was clear ! Thanks for reading. :))

#kuroshitsuji #vincent phantomhive #ciel phantomhive #rachel phantomhive #angelina durless #madam red #cedric k. ros #finnian #kuro132 #fenian brotherhood theory #ciel's real name #kuroshitsuji theory #dorkshadows #my analysis #blue memory arc

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I'm sorry but I have some trouble believing Frances doesn't care about just her own daughter when she said that in ch132

Well, I’ll copy-paste my own tags from here then Anon, because I find they’re pretty self-explanatory:

And also a little something else…

Listen Anon, if Frances really didn’t care about her nephews in the past or now, then… 

Lizzie wouldn’t have been betrothed to them and exposed to danger till now (especially for the last 4 years), 

Frances wouldn’t have shown up for Ciel’s 13th birthday and taken him hunting, so that he wouldn’t be all alone or bored on the third death anniversary of the massacre 

and she wouldn’t have told Lizzie to offer him to join them for a three week vacation, which was supposed to be the Campania arc, because she found he was working a lot.

There aren’t a lot of outstanding adults in Ciel’s life, so let’s avoid dragging down the few who exist, okay? :3 

Hope it makes more sense this time. Have a nice weekend.

#kuroshitsuji #ciel phantomhive #frances midford #phantomhive dynamics #anon #answers #kuroshitsuji theory #kuro132 #my analysis

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I can’t help but wonder how much truth there is in the “you sacrificed your brother” statement. Like, undeniably, OC was the one who summoned Seb. Even if he didn’t kill him. It was an accident, right? So does that count as a lie or just twisting the truth? OC has been asking Seb if he lied about something a lot lately. What is it that he refers to? That RC could never come back, or OC sacrificed him? The order to never lie was presumably after. Both the “can never come back” and ->

Hello Anon. :) Soooo, to address your different remarks:

Sacrifice vs Accident

To quote you, “it’s an accidental summoning any way you look at it” in my opinion as well!

@cielsama14​ explained it well enough as well here, so all I’m going to say is that our!Ciel definitely is the one who turned his back on God and called for Seb, which is why his brother’s soul was used to pay for Seb’s summoning. However, considering that he said…

I can’t call that a sacrifice, seeing as it’s not something he did consciously or willingly. 

After reading the chapter, I also don’t think Seb lied, because he definitely heard our!Ciel calling and the fare for crossing was paid, so his interpretation that it was a sacrifice, especially considering the settings he found our!Ciel in, makes sense (even if we readers know that it’s not exactly what happened).

However, manipulation from Seb’s part is also rather obvious where I’m concerned, because he definitely decided to show up for a reason…

And his way to try and play it chill isn’t exactly fooling anyone…

…since our!Ciel didn’t really have any other option besides making that contract to survive the cult. 

So in the end, it’s as William said…

About Frances

Frankly, whether she knew or not about which twin our!Ciel was, I don’t think it really matters nor that it will trigger such a huge reaction out of her in case she didn’t anyway. x) Besides, sorry but she clearly wasn’t wrong in ch132, I mean…

she never said that our!Ciel wasn’t clever enough for the job, more like he was too physically weak and we’ve had enough occasions to see for ourselves that, without Seb, Ciel would have indeed died many times in the past. 

I mean, no worries, I can understand wanting Seb to mess with her a little, since she’s always keeping such a perfect composure, but I actually enjoy the fact that she, as well as Nina and UT, can give a demon cold sweat even though they’ll never be as strong as him. Besides…

this is Frances “tricked” by Seb in ch14, so I think she’s more level-headed than maybe you give her credit for (not that I can blame you for that, seeing how Yana uses her for comic relief most of the time xD). 

Anyway, as I explained when ch132 came out, my opinion is that Frances doesn’t care about the Phantomhive family being successful or well-seen or anything, she just cares about its survival because she cares about her family. So the only moments we might see her falter…

…will probably always have to do with if/when she feels powerless about helping her family and maybe only our!Ciel (and not Seb) will ever have an influence on her in that aspect. 

We have time before anything like that happens though, haha, so as always feel free to disagree. :) 

Thanks for passing by Anon! I do agree that the Seb/Ciel dynamic is very interesting especially, since the more we advance, the more I see hints that they might end up clashing at some point, and that even though UT is counting on Seb to protect Ciel for now indeed. :))

Have a nice day! 

#kuroshitsuji #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #2ct #frances midford #kuro132 #kuro137 #kuroshitsuji theory #anon #answers

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I’m crying, how did they even know the baby would be a girl? There was no ultrasound or anything invented yet to know a baby’s gender before it was born!  xDD

EDIT: no, they’re not talking about Sam’s granddaughter giving birth, since it says “he’d like you to name her, Earl”.

#kuroshitsuji #kuro132 #this is amazing #i can't stop laughing #i hadn't noticed xDDD #lmao

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About Vincent’s attitude in the flashbacks (ch131/132)

I want to address two different things, the first point because it is strange, the second point because I saw a lot of possible misunderstanding.  

1) Vincent and foreshadowing

I want to talk about this scene that left me a bit ???...

because nothing particularly important is being said and yet Vincent says something that sounds like a premonition with a rather ominous face and what made me address this is that it’s not the first time. 

So, here I am, wondering if the possible regular pattern doesn’t mean something in particular, because we also had a possible foreshadowing moment about the current arc (probably referring to the twins’ conflict itself) from his own mouth in ch107.5…

And I already made a post on the subject, but in ch131 we had several Evil Nobles showing up on the same day as Vincent asking Diedrich for a favor, namely, to look after his sons should anything happen to him, 3 years before anything actually happened to him, as if he was expecting something to happen to him soon.

…going as far as to add after “You never know”:

In case you were wondering, yes I know this sounds crazy and I had never considered something as random as “Vincent had small precognitive powers” before this chapter, but I find that this makes for a strange and regular pattern.  And yes, for all we know, it’s just Vincent breaking the 4th wall because Yana enjoys writing him like that, but still...

We also know, thanks to ch103, that the Phantomhive family share a special lineage, even if the details are still unknown to this day, aside from the fact that it allows our!Ciel to see Shinigamis when he shouldn’t be able to. 

Obviously it’s hard to reach any conclusion until we see more flashbacks of Vincent, but it’s something to keep in mind in my opinion, just in case it’s useful later. x)     

2) Vincent and our!Ciel

This other point focuses solely on ch132 and starts with this scene:

Judging by Vincent’s silent glance, I agree with @akumadeenglish‘s interpretation that he was carefully observing his sons’ reaction and ideas at the time. The big question is, whose words did he appreciate the most?

I know many might think that it’s real!Ciel’s, since he seemed like the perfect heir when our!Ciel was weaker and not supposed to inherit anything, however I think ch132 is actually full of hints that Vincent took a real interest in how our!Ciel was thinking.

If you don’t believe me, take a look at the discussion with Frances:

...because Vincent initially seemed to be quite out of it as she made her point that the Watchdog duty would be too dangerous for our!Ciel, going as far as to answer pretty dismissively to his sister...

But I personally didn’t read this scene as Vincent just shrugging it off because he didn’t care about his second son dying, or what should happen to the family if his heir died, but rather because he simply didn’t agree with Frances on the matter of our!Ciel not being strong enough to take on the Watchdog duty. 

The second hint is that he took both his sons with him when he went to inspect the domain...

...even though many readers interpreted his words from before as not being very trusting of our!Ciel’s abilities. However, if he really didn’t think that our!Ciel could be a good and strong heir, then why did he even take him with him and real!Ciel in the first place? Why didn’t he appear to educate them differently, except maybe when it comes to fighting?

Finally, not everyone might want to call these hints, but this is Vincent in the side story With Father! and ch107.5:

And he doesn’t seem to particularly dislike the fact that our!Ciel is the current Watchdog (in case you were wondering, he never calls him “Ciel” so we can safely assume he knows which son’s adventures he’s reading x)). 

So back to this scene...

I think he actually found our!Ciel’s words interesting because, compared to the twin, our!Ciel’s proposition seemed more genuinely good-hearted and thus different from what he might have been expecting from a potential future Watchdog. However, this isn’t really surprising when we know what our!Ciel wanted to do as an adult and why.

Our!Ciel is kinder at heart and appears to be more selfless than his twin brother and I believe Vincent caught on that through our!Ciel’s answer (”granting everyone’s wishes sounds difficult”) & that it's what possibly interested him.

Because friendly reminder again that Vincent said that Kuroshitsuji (so literally our!Ciel acting as the Watchdog) was “interesting” and that it was something “the Undertaker recommended”, which means that Vincent seems to agree with UT when it comes to our!Ciel:

3) Conclusion?

1 => I don’t know how seriously we’re supposed to take Vincent’s words when he speaks about the future (see the examples above), because there is still a possibility that Yana enjoys breaking the 4th wall with using his character.

However, considering we still know nothing about how supernatural the Phantomhive lineage might be, I’m going to keep these examples in mind just in case there is a reason Vincent can foreshadow things.

2 => I don’t think Vincent ever casted off his second child (our!Ciel) as being weak, useless and not making for a good heir because:

he didn’t want to address the subject with Frances

he took our!Ciel along with real!Ciel when he explained what the duties of a lord were

there are hints that he shared UT’s opinion on how interesting it is that our!Ciel appears to act and think differently from the rest of his ancestors.

I hope it was understandable, thanks for reading!

#kuroshitsuji #vincent phantomhive #ciel phantomhive #2ct #undertaker #kuroshitsuji theory #kuro131 #kuro132 #kuro103 #kuro107.5 #my analysis

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I don’t see any difference. 

Bonus:

Now I am only missing Claudia chiding the hell out of someone (probably UT) for the Holy Trinity.

#kuroshitsuji #elizabeth midford #ciel phantomhive #vincent phantomhive #frances midford #lmao #kuro132

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i'm really pissed about what Frances said about OC in hte new chapter. It's horrible to speak of your nephew as a spare, no wonder OC has such a low opinion of himself.

Um, hold your horses for a sec, Anon. While I can understand not liking the harsh words, our!Ciel’s inferiority complex is not just Frances’ fault so if you could avoid this kind of shortcuts, it’d be easier to discuss this. 

I can totally understand not liking what Frances said, however it fits Frances’ character to a T so, to me, it makes sense that she of all people would address the subject in the first place.

It’s something I’ve spoken about times and times again, but Frances was born and raised as a Phantomhive, had her mom who surely was the Queen’s watchdog, so she knows the ropes of this “game”. This is Frances:

And you could say that her primary reason for being as severe as she is probably is that she lost her mother (and then her brother) because of the Watchdog’s duty. 

So when she says “the burden of the watchdog’s duty is far to great for [our!Ciel]”, it’s not that she’s worried about what the Queen would think of the P family were they to fail, but rather that she doesn’t think that our!Ciel would be able to survive and she probably doesn’t want to lose more relatives simply because they took on a burden that was too heavy for them.

And isn’t she completely right though, Anon? I mean, without Sebastian, I don’t think Ciel would have been able to survive for long as the Watchdog. Not that I believe his twin brother would have done a better job at ten years old either. 

Still…

…Vincent doesn’t seem to agree with her anyway, that’s why he answered pretty dismissively in the first place, so it’s not like Frances convinced her brother to get his second son out of the inheritance.

Where you’re right though is that this kind of discussion definitely played a role into the development of our!Ciel’s inferiority complex over time, even if what happened 4 years ago mattered the most in my opinion:

However, it’s not just our!Ciel, look at Edward thinking…

…”compared to everyone else” (and mainly to Lizzie and his mom; it’s an inferiority complex as well, although not as deep as our!Ciel’s) and finally, look at Lizzie’s self-worth issues, because no one explained to the twin why having a strong wife later would be the best thing he could wish for => it’s a regular pattern in this family, these children aren’t happy with themselves for a reason.

Obviously it would be easy to blame Vincent and Frances for this, but I’ll never agree that they seem to be awful parents, even if there certainly is miscommunication involved, because in my opinion it’s the family situation that sucks. Were the Phantomhives a normal family…

Frances wouldn’t have walked to her brother and said “because your second son is sickly I’m afraid of him dying quite early on if he’s to ever become your heir”. 

Lizzie wouldn’t have been trained to be as invincible as possible, because marrying into this normal family wouldn’t mean risking her life.

Even Edward, who’s the heir to the Midford family, wouldn’t have belittled himself because Lizzie wouldn’t have been meant to be stronger than him in the first place. 

TL;DR All Frances was asking of Vincent in that scene was for him to think of a solution so that his second son wouldn’t possibly be killed because of a burden too heavy for him and, as often, because she knows how this game is played, she was right to address the subject, since our!Ciel would have died many times already without Sebastian.

I hope it was understandable and that you won’t be too pissed at her from now on. Have a nice day Anon!

#kuroshitsuji #frances midford #ciel phantomhive #vincent phantomhive #elizabeth midford #edward midford #sebastian michaelis #kuroshitsuji theory #kuro132 #anon #answers #phantomhive dynamics

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Rereading bb and this got me. Back in ch120 when ociel threw a Halloween party to his people, reminds me of ch132 where we saw him thinking about the people's interest . Nothing major, this just popped on my head thinking that he loves these people deep inside. Awww my sweet angel, just wanna hug him, I love him so much

Hi Anon! Ah actually, to be fair it’s not something he did because he wanted to…

…but because it’s a tradition he owed to his tenants. Besides, even if the party turned out to be different in a good way, I’m not sure he enjoyed it a lot considering he was worried about Lizzie:

That being said, ch120 aside…

I agree that his words of ch132 were meant to insist that, even in present time, he’s more selfless than most characters or readers give him credit for. Something that UT even commented on during the Weston arc:

…as he was saving Harcourt from the bizarre dolls without any second thought. 

In other words, I agree with you Anon. :)) I love this boy a lot and I love how he seems to be more like his aunt than his brother or father (and probably even grandmother), especially since even Seb once said that Frances would make a good mentor. 

And I, too, wish someone would hug him right now, but Lizzie is currently not present and busy with her own predicament, Soma is in shock and Sieglinde doesn’t have this type of proximity with him… Soon though. Soon I’m sure someone will comfort him. :3

Awww Anon, thank you so much!

As I said I really don’t mind writing them to be this long and rereading them from time to time (since a lot of things in Kuro are linked), but to be honest I always question if they really make sense, since I’m often considering many different versions of the same theory in order to make it work with canon elements with already have.

Anyway, not to ramble, thank you very much for reading and for such nice words! :D

Please have a very enjoyable weekend Anon-chan, wishing you the best! ^3^ 

#kuroshitsuji #ciel phantomhive #undertaker #frances midford #joanne harcourt #kuro132 #weston arc #kuro120 #kuroshitsuji theory #anon #answers

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Serious question though

and I need people’s opinion on the subject:

Do you think Alexis is allowed to call Frances “Frannie” too, or it’s just a special right for Vincent because he’s her big brother? 

Do you think anyone besides Vincent is allowed to call her “Frannie”?

I need to know for… important reasons. :D

imagine if UT is really Cedric K. Ros, and thus her daddy, and at some point in the story they actually interact and he calls her ‘Frannie’ though? And she just loses her shit because they really don’t get along from her point of view but, like, UT doesn’t care and keeps on calling her ‘Frannie’ because she’s his baby girl and because it totally annoys her. Meanwhile Ciel, Liz and Ed just watch the scene and have no idea what’s going on and Seb pretends he doesn’t know any of these humans.

#kuroshitsuji #frances midford #vincent phantomhive #alexis midford #kuro132 #actually it works even if UT isn't her daddy tho #it's just funnier if he is

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Do you think maybe Frances was the spare of Vincent when they were children, like OC with RC? I don't know because she's a girl it doesn't sound possible but maybe her mom was the watchdog too so I can't decide.

Hello Anon! Well, considering Frances’ discussion with Vincent…

…it seems indeed that it’s best if there is a spare to the Watchdog’s heir, just in case something happens. 

I wouldn’t say that it’s impossible for Frances to have been Vincent’s spare back during their childhood however, even as a woman, because…

Claudia being the Watchdog probably was a special case in the first place,  as there might have been no man to take on the title, which is why Victoria probably allowed her to take it on instead, as we debated here:

“if there were no surviving legitimate male relatives, the title would become extinct…  Unless someone got a parliamentary and royal warrant to pass it on to the daughter.“

Following this logic, if Victoria had given the agreement to Claudia for the Watchdog’s duty, it doesn’t seem illogical to think that Frances was her mother’s second heir, the spare in case something happened to Vincent, the rightful heir. That’s even why she’s probably as strong as she is…

because she was trained to take on the Watchdog duty too, just in case.

Crack theory time (that I share with @aroturier): if our!Ciel hadn’t come back 4 years ago, we were wondering if the Queen wouldn’t have passed the Watchdog dutyon to Frances (aka to the Midford family).

I hope it answers your question, have a nice day Anon!

#kuroshitsuji #ciel phantomhive #frances midford #claudia phantomhive #vincent phantomhive #kuroshitsuji theory #kuro132 #anon #answers #kuro132 made even more canon my thought that frances was helping vincent until she married out of the family #which might be what vincent wants to do with his sons #phantomhive dynamics

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I never really gave it much thought, but I'm actually kinda impressed, and proud of our lil Ciel. I feel like out of sheer determination he kept himself pretty healthy for over 3-4 years. I also think that he managed to keep himself healthy because of his mental fortification after "that month". He knew he was sickly as a kid, and he accepted that, and so he probably wasn't big on fighting illnesses. Then he realises he can't go on if he's weak, so he just powers through it all and keeps "well".

Ehhhh… To be honest Anon, you couldn’t have known, but I really don’t want to speak about “our!Ciel being a sickly child not able to do anything before the murders and then being 100% fine for 3 years until a very cold shower” because it always felt like a really bad plot convenience ploy where the 2CT is concerned.

I mean, maybe I’m just being biased, or maybe it’s because I am a little knowledgeable on this aspect in real life, but basically, if he was that sickly and could get bad asthma attacks at basically any time and for any reason in his daily life… 

then there is no way our!Ciel would have even been able to survive one month in mid-Winter and harsh conditions, like it happened when they were abducted and sold to the cult. 

You saw what the cold does to people who are asthmatic -> that’s the cold shower during the circus arc for our!Ciel and that’s also why he’s never going to have any real physical abilities.So with how often we’re told that he’s weak and sickly in these flashbacks, I’m honestly wondering how our!Ciel didn’t die from coughing during the first week of being abducted. 

Maybe Yana will explain and, since we’re not there yet in the flashbacks I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt. However, if she doesn’t introduce our!Ciel doing better just before turning 10, or receiving an effective medecine for his bad coughing, or anything explaining how he survived the cult when doing anything at home made him cough and get a fever, then it’s going to be a big plot hole. 

Sorry Anon, really you couldn’t have known, but there is no sheer determination to staying healthy when you have a chronic illness, there is just knowing what causes trigger a bad attack and how to avoid them as much as you can, and so I’m really hoping Yana won’t write something as senseless as “he believed he could overcome his frail condition so he did”. 

Once again, no offense Anon :/ and please have a nice day.

#kuroshitsuji #ciel phantomhive #kuro132 #anon #answers

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You know, thinking about it, if the twins had come to Weston together, I actually wonder if R-Ciel, and O-Ciel, would have ended up in the same house. Because I see O-Ciel ending up in Blue, like he did, but I think R-Ciel could have ended up in Red house, or even Green house, if he had showed the necessary abilities. In the end, R-Ciel would probably have gotten himself, or O-Ciel transferred so they could be in the same house though. Not saying R-C isn't smart enough for Blue house, but... ehh

Hello! And well, Vincent was in Blue House, our!Ciel ended up in Blue House so I think Real!Ciel would have ended in Blue House too, or in Red House for a second possibility. 

We might not see the twin reading as much as our!Ciel, but he’s good at chess and I’m sure they’re both as clever. 

So I think they would have ended in the same house :) and as you said, I doubt real!Ciel would have let the school separate him from his brother anyway (and we know how he feels about the fag system).

Have a nice day! 

#kuroshitsuji #2ct #ciel phantomhive #anon #answers #kuro132

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Gosh! One blunt word comes out of her and suddenly ciel entire issues is her fault. How can one word offend so many people 0-0.

One word: #fandom. 

It’s not the first time Frances gets hit by some shit though, because her badass side doesn’t always manage to impress fans who prefer to see her as a bad mother and aunt, for reasons I have trouble acknowledging. 

You’ll notice that people get offended easily with fiction though. I read quite a few negative posts about Vincent after the new chapter, when it was Diedrich’s turn last month and Tanaka’s the month before or so. 

The reasoning is as such: one character = “baby”, so if any other character goes as far as to criticize them, then they’re a threat and they’re insulted. In the end, it’s all about understanding why a character like Frances would say something like that, but I dare say that not many fans try to see the story in its globality.  

Anyway, at least there is one explanation going around, so maybe it will help people who didn’t understand what Frances was trying to say.

Have a nice day Anon. :)

Hello! Well, the thing is, I can’t be 100% sure but I read from @hitsugikuro​ and several others that “spare” was the accurate word considering the time era. So I believe some fans just get offended because it does have a negative connotation nowadays when it didn’t use to. 

Anyway, @akumadeenglish explained that the most literal translation was “extra” and not spare, but since Yen Press always tries to give Kuroshitsuji this “old English” vibe, I think maybe the word was chosen because it fit the time era. 

I hope it helps! Have a nice day Anon.

Lmao, no need to bet Anon, I’m sure Frances and Lizzie can both defeat Grey somehow, even if Frances might indeed have the experience in her favor! xD

Hopefully for him he doesn’t have bangs, so she might leave his “rat tail” alone if he surrenders easily, haha!

Have a nice day Anon :)

Hello and don’t worry Anon, I think a lot of people get confused and annoyed by how our!Ciel is constantly referred to in the flashbacks. x)

However, while I’m pretty sure our!Ciel has a real name, I am not sure that Yana will ever reveal it loud and clear because “Ciel Phantomhive” is quite the iconic name and it would be hard for our!Ciel’s character to take on another identity after 26 volumes.

Yana might still reveal his name at some point, but if so, I think it will be at a very specific time (for example, maybe if he ends up dying and a Shinigami collects his soul, but in that case that would mean that Seb lost the game).

Good luck until then, Anon! I personally refer to our!Ciel as Ciel and real!Ciel as the twin from time to time.

Have a nice day!

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[midnight-in-town]

The phantomhives and midfords are so interesting! I wish we could have an arc about them instead of bravat and company...

lmao, well Anon, I wouldn’t mind an entire spin off on Claudia’s and/or Vincent’s days as the Watchdogs. xD 

Not to say I don’t like Ciel and Seb’s story, because I really really do, but I wouldn’t mind reading more about the other generations too, because I’m sure it was just as crazy, even if (I’m not delusional) it probably won’t ever happen.

Honestly, I’m still waiting to see how the current arc will end before deciding whether it was better or worse than the Green Witch arc. In reality, things are coming together, it’s just that the pace is slow and that can’t be helped. :/

In the meantime, I’ll take all I can get about the previous Phantomhive generations and I can survive one month on simply one page of Vincent interacting with Frances (as you probably noticed). xD 

Haha, have a nice day Anon!

#kuroshitsuji #anon #answers #kuro132 #blue memory arc

[midnight-in-town]

Random but I totally have mixed feelings about this panel because

on the one hand it means that Frances totally chose who she was going to marry which is 100% like her (not that I think that Vincent ever wished/was able to force his sister to do anything she didn’t want)

but on the other hand, I just don’t get it because I’m not sure there was a way for her to marry and stay into the P family in the first place?

I mean…

If Claudia became the Watchdog it might have been because there was no man related to the P family left to take on the title + Ann aside, it seems even Ciel only has Frances’ family left, so… how was she even supposed to remain in the family?

As I said random, but it just is funny in its own way. xD

#kuroshitsuji #frances midford #alexis midford #vincent phantomhive #kuro132