#pro elide

[lesolehabitantdelalune]

FACTS.

#elriel #elain archeron #acotar #pro elain #elain #elain x elide #elide #tog #pro elide

[lorcandidlucienwill]

Elide would hate Feyre

For the people who say Elide and Feyre would get along... Elide would NEVER understand why Feyre chose to marry somebody who constantly abuses her when Elide clearly said she only wanted a man who she trusted so deeply all the horrors of her past would go away, somebody she trusted to never lock her up or hurt her or leave her. And she would NEVER understand Feyre getting innocent people in the Spring Court killed for her own petty revenge when she gave Lorcan shit for killing one man for their survival. She would NEVER understand setting up her friend Lucien to fail/die while she gallivants around the world with Rice Cake. She would NEVER agree with the IC's decision to lock Nesta up in a house after she was locked in a tower for 10 years. Idk how Sarah will write it, but the Elide she wrote about in TOG would DESPISE Feyre. Matter of fact, Manon would kick Feyre's ass for what she let Rhysand do to Nesta. Aelin would start a fucking revolution. Lorcan would humble the shit out of all of them. The TOG gang would leave the IC in ruins and I'd be here for the show.

#elide lochan #elide x lorcan #elorcan #lorcan salvaterre #lord lorcan lochan #pro lucien vanserra #pro nesta archeron #manon blackbeak #anti ic #anti inner circle #aelin ashryver galathynius #anti feyre archeron #anti feysand #anti rhysand

[mystical-blaise]

Everyone's all like flexible Gwyneth Berdara is gonna be ruined by Azriel's giant wingspan, but no one talks about how a very tiny human Elide would be literally destroyed by her 7ft tall, hunky demi-fae male.

#gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #gwyn x azriel #azriel x gwyn #gwynriel supremacy #pro gwynriel #acotar #lorcan x elide #elide x lorcan #elide tog #elide lochan #elorcan #lorcan tog #elide and lorcan #lorcan salvaterre #just trying to have fun in the fandom again

[silly--fangirl]

no, defending my favs on the internet is not enough

i need a gun

#lucien vanserra #pro lucien vanserra #nesta archeron #pro nesta archeron #pro eris vanserra #darayavahoush e afshin #nahri e nahid #aelin galathynius #aelin ashryver galathynius #aelin fireheart #manon blackbeak #elide lochan #dorian havilliard #lysandra ennar #daenerys targaryen #daenerys stormborn #queen daenerys #mother of dragons #rhaenyra targaryen #elia martell #cardan greenbriar #jude duarte #nesryn faliq #yrene towers #yrene westfall #sartaq #lidia cervos #kaz brekker #inej ghafa #nina zenik

[whatthe-everythingstaken]

I’ve been reading SJM books the past few months and I honestly did not expect the amount of actual fighting happening between grown women about ships.

I love it. Please bring me into it

I don’t have strong opinions about any characters but I’ll form them if someone wants to argue I promise

#anti sjm #sjm critical #sarah j maas #sjmaas #sjm universe #throne of glass #aelin ashryver galathynius #chaol westfall #chaol x yrene #pro chaol #manon blackbeak #manon x elide #elide lochan #acotar #feyre archeron #rhys acotar #azriel #elain x azriel #gwynriel #cassian acotar #gwyn acosf #elain x lucien #lucien vanserra #crecent city #tharion ketos #ithan holstrom

[the-darkestminds]

Has sjm ever written a romance that wasn’t a slow burn?

Rhysand x Feyre

Cassian x Nesta

Rowan x Aelin

Aedion x Lysandra

Lorcan x Elide

Chaol x Yrene

Dorian x Manon

Hunt x Bryce

Ruhn x Lidia

Sartaq x Nesryn

The first time we are given Azriel’s POV, he and Elain are already about to kiss. The romance is already burning. This would be the first time SJM has developed a romance between two main characters off page/from the outside looking in.

#pro elucien #pro gwynriel #sarah j maas #sjm #acowar #acomaf #acotar #a court of wings and ruin #a court of mist and fury #a court of thorns and roses #ruhn x lidia #rhysand x feyre #cassian x nesta #aelin x rowan #bryce x hunt #aedion x lysandra #elide x lorcan #Tamlin x feyre #manon x dorian #Chaol x yrene #nesryn x sartaq #hofas #a court of silver flames #kingdomofash #elucien #gwynriel

[nestaismommy]

Remember when Nesta was at the bog? Right before the kelpie showed up, she heard this voice….

Nesta made herself approach the edge of the black water.

Run, a small voice whispered. Run and run, and do not look back.

The voice was female, gentle. Wise and serene.

Run.

It’s kind of similar to the same voice Manon heard when rescuing Elide.

Hurry, Blackbeak, whispered a strange, soft female voice in her head that was at once old and young and wise. You race against doom.

Faster, Blackbeak, that wise female voice begged her, as if there were only so much she might interfere. Faster—

Asterin did say this to Elide:

Asterin’s black eyes seemed to devour her whole. “You would hear that wind, girl,” she said with expert quiet, “because anyone with Ironteeth blood does. I’m surprised your mother never told you. It’s passed on through the maternal line.”

And Elide did hear the wind.

But she’d felt that ripple in the world, could have sworn she heard the wind singing her name, heard panicked shouts—and then nothing.

And I’m just here trying to act like a genius and say what Nesta heard was the same thing Manon heard which is most likely the wind- and only Blackbeaks can hear it. And Nesta is definitely not a blackbeak because she’s literally in a different universe but I just wanted to make it seem as if I’m smart and that I figured something out lmao but it’s funny because remember this?

“Is she a witch.”

I opened my mouth, but Nesta said flatly, “Yes.”

Someone needs to draw Nesta as an iron-teeth witch

#nesta archeron #manon blackbeak #asterin blackbeak #elide lochan #pro nesta #pro nesta archeron #acosf

[moonlightazriel]

TOG IG: Males

Main Masterlist

#sjm multiverse #sarah j maas #rowan whitethorn #rowan whitethorn galathynius #rowan tog #rowaelin #dorian havilliard #king dorian #dorian tog #pro chaol #chaol westfall #dorian x chaol #lorcan salvaterre #lorcan lochan salvatorre #lord lorcan lochan #elide x lorcan #aedion x lysandra #aedion ashryver #Aedion tog

[manonslayme]

What if I fucked around and made a Nesta x Elide x Manon mermaid/slightly inspired by Luca au where Nesta is on the run after the NC assholes kick her out and accidentally stumbles across mermaid/shark Elide and Manon who have been hiding among humans.

Ensue funnies with Manon and Elide trying to tech Nesta how to human, angst as they help Nesta properly process her truama, and fluff because they’re all falling in love

#throne of glass #tog #acotar #manon blackbeak #elide lochan #nesta archeon #gay fish people #I’ve been THINKING #it would have a very coastal countryside vibe like Luca does #this au spawned from imagining Elide picking fruit idk man #malide #manon x elide #manon x nesta #elide x nesta #Manon x elide x nesta #this au would be very anti inner circle btw #pro nesta archeron

[loonylooly]

I keep hearing that Elide is TOG's Elain..

what i'd give to have Lucien wrapped around Elain's finger the way Lorcan was around Elide's, like yes girl, put that man in his place (his place is next to you)

(everyone ignore how I originally put Elain is TOG's Elain 💀)

#pretty please Janet #the people have demands #it's me i'm the people #Elide Lochan #Elain Archeron #Lucien Vanserra #lorcan salvaterre #tog #acotar #pro elucien #elucien #elorcan

[goddessofwisdom18]

Mor pin-up <3 <3 <3 might have to do Emerie to follow her ;)

#also manon and elide #and sorscha #i was following a sapphic theme there but i just love sorscha lol #morrigan #sjm #acotar #pro morrigan #mor #emorie #emerie of illyria #morlain #acotar fanart #pin-up art #sapphic art #acotar smut #acomaf #acowar

[lorcandidlucienwill]

Look, I have no problem whatsoever with Nesta learning how to fight. I think she has a warrior-like spirit, and I love the Valkyries as well, they're her real chosen family not the IC. It's not that aspect of it exactly that irks me. It's the intention behind her learning to fight. For one, it was forced on her as a "therapy" tactic by people who hate her yet act like they know what's best for her. For two, the whole idea of it was to water down Nesta and change her into someone who is correct for Cassian, which is so forced and icky (also what was with them calling her "Illyrian at heart?" You mean sexist with fragile af egos??? God no.) And it completely ignores the fact that Nesta's greatest tool is her words. Keep in mind Nesta was initially meant to be Lucien's mate. Lucien is very good with courtly stuff. I genuinely think Lucien and Eris are the only males in this series who could handle Nesta, because they grew up in the Autumn Court (which Nesta was practically made for, are you kidding me?) and are both incredibly witty. I've seen countless people compare Elain to Elide, but I honestly felt like Nesta was an upgraded form of Elide (Elain is more like Yrene). Both women are compared to witches several times in their respective series (hmmm I wonder why), are very cunning, are masters of intimidation, got men on their knees, have a casual grace about them, and have a ruthless streak. Don't believe Elide does? Ok, read how she spoke to Lorcan in EoS and KoA. Read the scene where she kills those ilken, and is proud of herself for it (Elain deflected her kill of the king of Hybern to Nesta). She let Vernon suffer, and Vernon had also said "Ruthless. The witch-blood ran true after all." And she, too, was angry at herself for feeling helpless many times, just like Nesta. Once she got so angry she observed Lorcan catching fish and eventually copied him and caught one herself. But Elide didn't become a warrior. She didn't do anything she didn't want to do. She wasn't watered down to fit anybody. She's the Lady of Perranth, as she should be. She was born to rule. As was Nesta. Nesta is 100% High Lady material. She should NOT be deferring to that idiot Cassian, or that ass Rhysand.

#the valkyries #pro nesta archeron #nesta archeron #pro nesta #nesta stan #nesta x lucien #neris #pro eris vanserra #pro lucien vanserra #anti cassian #anti rhysand #anti inner circle #elide lochan #yrene towers #lorcan salvaterre #lady of perranth #high lady nesta #autumn court males have fire in their veins and f*ck like it too

[lesolehabitantdelalune]

Elain 🤝 Elide

#elain archeron #acotar #pro elain #elide #tog #sarah j maas #sjmaas #elain x elide

[aelsie]

To each their own and you can be indifferent towards Elain, but to HATE her because she’s not a “fighter/warrior” just baffles me. LISTEN, you don’t have to be swinging a blade around to be a heroine or to be badass. I want SJM to write a beautiful, empowering Elain novel just to prove that the sweet, more reserved girls can also be a hero and can also change the world. SJM has done this before. See: Elide from TOG. That girl had a limp, stammered, and was described as the girl everyone had forgotten but she literally held one of the key pieces in her hand and her quiet determination and perseverance led her to her goal. They’re not the same person obviously but the point is: Not all heroes need to be swash buckling. Romance aside, at least give Elain the chance to BLOOM. That’s all. Like, damn. 🌸✌️

#elain archeron #pro elain #acotar #pro elain archeron #pro sjm #elide lochan #throne of glass #elriel #elucien #elain #elain acotar #sjm books #sjmaas

[mysticalfeysand]

Elide Lochan and Elain Archeron would be best friends.

#elide lochan #elain archeron #pro elain #elriel #acotar #throne of glass #a court of thorns and roses

[feyresdandelion]

eLrIeL iS tOo ClIChÉ

disclaimer 1: this post will contain spoilers for the pairings of every sjm book.

disclaimer 2: if I were to add every single couple sjm has written I would be here all day, so I will only add couples who are currently together (LoA and Beron), endgame (Aelin and Rowan), heavily implied to be endgame (Manon and Dorian) or where one of the people died (Aelin and Sam). I will not add couples that have broken up willingly or really secondary couples.

disclaimer 3: this post is anti gwynriel and elucien and pro elriel. It's also really long.

The argument that elriel is too cliché and cheesy due to the whole "3 brothers, 3 sisters" is so stupid to me. However, due to that part of the fandom and their unwillingness to think objectively, let's look at the statistics, shall we.

Here is a list of the sjm couples and their status as mates or not:

Aelin and Rowan - mates

Yrene and Chaol - humans, not mates

Manon and Dorian - we don't know, maybe

Elide and Lorcan - mates

Lysandra and Aedion - mates

Nesryn and Sartaq - humans, not mates

Elena and Gavin - mates

Aelin and Sam - broken up, not mates

Lyria and Rowan - broken up, not mates

Aedion's mom and Gavriel - heavily implied mates, maybe

Sorscha and Dorian - broken up, not mates

Asterin and the hunter - we don't know, maybe

Feyre and Rhys - mates

Nesta and Cassian - mates

Viviane and Kallias - mates

LoA and Beron - currently together, not mates

Jesminda and Lucien - broken up, not mates

Miryam and Drakon - mates

Amren and Varian - we don't know, maybe

Thesan and his lover - heavily implied mates, maybe

Rhys' mother and father - deceased, mates

Tamlin's mother and father - deceased, mates

Theia and Aidas - broken up, mates

Bryce and Hunt - mates

Lidia and Ruhn - mates

Danika and Baxian - broken up, mates

Sophie and Cormac - heavily implied mates, maybe

Fury and Juniper - we don't know, maybe

Declan and Marc - we don't know, maybe

Ember and Randall - humans, not mates

Bryce and Connor - broken up, not mates

Shahar and Hunt - broken up, not mates

Out of the 32 couples mentioned above, 14 are mates (43.75%), 10 aren't mates (31.25%) and 8 we don't know/it's implied (25%)

Out of the 14 couples who are mates, 12 either died while being a couple or are currently together (85.71%) and 2 are broken up mates (14.29%)

Out of the 10 couples who aren't mates, 3 are humans (30%), 6 are broken up and therefore not endgame (60%) and 1 are currently together (10%)

Before we continue let's talk about the definition of cliché:

something or someone that is not at all original, surprising, or interesting because it has very often been seen before.

In this post, a cliché couple will be part of the highest percentage of it's category.

Now let's add Elain, Gwyn, Azriel and Lucien to the mix. Here are the most discussed possibilities of these couples:

Elriel - mates and together

Elriel - not mates and together

Elriel - not mates and not together

Elucien - mates and together

Elucien - mates and broken bond

Gwynriel - mates and together

In the case of gwynriel being mates and together that would mean elucien are mates and together and would make elriel not mates and broken up.

So in this case there would be 35 couples, 16 mates (45.71%), 11 not mates (31.43%) and 8 we don't know/it's implied (22.86%)

Out of 16 mates, 14 either died while being a couple or are currently together (87.5%) and 2 are broken up mates (12.5%).

Out of 11 not mates, 3 are humans (27.27%), 7 are broken up and therefore not endgame (63.64%) and 1 are currently together (9.09%)

Therefore that would make gwynriel part of the 87.5% of mates who are together and a cliché

Elucien would also be part of the 87.5% and a cliché

Elriel would be part of the 63.64% of not mates who are broken up and a cliché.

In the case of elriel being mates and together, that would make elucien mates who are not together and gwynriel would be nonexistent.

The only reason gwynriel is noted as nonexistent and not not mates and not together is because while we have got clearly stated evidence of a romance between elriel (the almost kiss in the bonus chapter), we haven't gotten confirmed evidence of a romance between gwynriel (there are theories and maybe subtext, but not clearly stated evidence).

So in this case there would be 34 couples, 16 are mates (47.06%), 10 aren't mates (29.41%) and 8 we don't know/it's implied (23.53%).

Of the 16 mates, 13 either died while being a couple or are still together (81.25%) and 3 are broken up (18.75%).

Elriel would be part of the 81.25% and a cliché.

Elucien would be part of the 18.75% and not a cliché.

However, elriel being mates would mean that Elain had two mating bonds with two different males, so although the outcome would make elriel cliché, the execution would be a first for sjm and not cliché.

In the case of elriel not being mates but together, that would make elucien mates who are not together and gwynriel would be nonexistent.

Of the 34 couples, 15 are mates (44.12%), 11 aren't mates (32.35%) and 8 we don't know/it's implied (23.53%).

Out of the 15 mates, 12 either died while being a couple or are still together (80%) and 3 are broken up (20%).

Out of the 11 not mates, 3 are humans (27.28%), 6 are broken up (54.55%) and 2 (18.19%) are still together.

Elriel would be part of the 18.19% and not a cliché.

Elucien would be part of the 20% and not a cliché.

In conclusion, the only way elriel could be cliché would be if they were not mates and didn't end up together and if they were mates who ended up together. Even in the last case, they wouldn't be too cliché because it would mean Elain had two mating bonds, which we have yet to see in any sjm book.

The endgame for both gwynriel and elucien would make them cliché, while the breaking of the mating bond would make elucien not cliché and, let's be honest, there's not any other possibility of gwynriel being endgame apart from them being mates.

You can dislike whatever ship you want, but saying that elriel is a cliché would be an objective lie, when they are the most unique couple written by sjm to date.

#elriel #pro elriel #anti gwynriel #anti elucien #elain x azriel #I love math so much