you know. been almost a week and i'm still mad about this
it's just "friendly banter", i know. i still hate it. not least because everyone else around the table laughs? prem and dy don't make jokes like this about samsee (i think i remember dy telling samsee to stop thinking about food in ep1?) and i find it a little hard to believe they wouldn't go mama bear mode over this unnecessary comment, tbh
also i keep thinking about this ep 6 deleted scene
prem has no problem calling ten out! i suppose it could be that he doesn't know metha well enough/isn't as comfortable around him?
and, yeah, of course, just because prem did that, doesn't mean he can't also think fat jokes are funny. i know. i know! it just bugs me!!
because this show has so much compassion and kindness in it, for all its characters. except the fat one
i mean. honestly, this show's been kinder to samsee's character than i was expecting; i figured he'd just be the dumb background character who's always eating and has no other personality traits. and yeah, making a comment like this is realistic as fuck
but also: this comment is stupid and i hate it
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I could think about Bernie the mailman as an everyman, as Just Some Guy, who whistles while he works, who wants to do his job well and go home to his husband and dog. I could think about Bernie the mailman as a mail carrier who is proud of his 100% delivery rate and wants to get the state record even though he works in a bonkers train city. I could think about Bernie the mailman as the descendent of a long line of mail carriers with mysterious mail-delivery superpowers which allow him to deliver letters without a proper address. I could think about Bernie the mailman as an audience stand-in, waiting expectantly for people to open their letters from Michael, keen to hear them read the letters out (and perhaps disappointed if they aren't ready yet). I could think about Bernie the mailman as a tool of the narrative, enabling a kind of delayed but significant communication. I could think about Bernie the mailman as a representation of the way that harsh truths, important lessons and emotionally complicated revelations can seek people out in unexpected places. But at any rate I am finding myself thinking about Bernie the mailman a lot more than I expected.
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For argyle, I can’t say much but I will say my dad is Chicano and grew up in LA area and he appreciated the Cheech and Chong references ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ IMO, I feel like his character was exciting in that it was a chance to give the Byers some interesting development, especially Jonathan, but in reality he was more an excuse for weed jokes. I also feel like sometimes the fandom in more excited to show that they can like a brown man actually, than actually giving his character depth (necessary caveat this may just be the corners in lurking on). He mainly exist for car and pizza plot points, and also deus ex machina moments where the writers clearly decided if a high person has an epiphany that coincidentally solves everything, it doesn’t count because they’re high and it’s humorous.
Apologies if you could hear me rolling my eyes over that last point from all the way over here. Everything I hear makes me more and more convinced that I made the right call dipping halfway through this last season. This show is very much no longer being made with me in the intended target audience.
(To be fair, this tendency toward stock comedic characters with cardboard personalities started with Murray back in season two, and just got fucking egregious when they decided he should be a main cast member and an important load-bearing plot element. I cannot stand the man. And yeah, season one had its share of dopey deus ex (Jonathan, why are you taking pictures in the woods in the middle of the night?), but usually it was to get the characters into Situations, not out of them.)
Like I do think it's important to be able to draw that distinction between 'this is what the author/showrunners/writers/story actually did, in our real world, where this is a fictional story that someone had to make all the choices about' and 'this is how I could explain this within the context of the story, as though it were a Thing That Happened and the people it happened to were real, and no deliberate, conscious choices shaped those facts'.
Maybe it really is just that I'm not the target audience here. Or maybe I just don't appreciate weed jokes. But it seems pretty clear to me that nobody on the writing team put in the time or the thought to give that actor much more to work with other than 'weed joke'. (Most likely because they didn't have the time to put in the thought. Or, possibly, that there was no one left on the writing team with the perspective to do so. Minirooms are bad, 'auteur theory' is bad, support the WGA.)
But I know fandom can Do Things with characters whose writers Didn't. I've done it myself! In this case, though, I can't get past how much he annoys me. Which is rough, because I agree with your point - having him there opens up a lot of really interesting possibilities for development for the Byers! It could have been really good! I just can't get there on my own. And I'm hoping somebody has the hookup for the good stuff, so that I don't have to try to sort through a lot of fics and headcanons about a character I am already irritated by for Meta Reasons, without a trusty guide.
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aah!! i love your ideas for the rest of the su gems, (its me, the anon who asked!!) they're so cool and they make me feel so??? yes?? i understand your struggle with assigning characters in crossovers too, so may i offer up blaze for bismuth? its a tight fit but it mayyy work..he strikes me as more of the righteous yet brash type, so it may fit bismuth. i also agree with jasper nicole and i'd love to hear more about her and dante!!
aahhh sorry for the late response (˃̣̣̥ᴖ˂̣̣̥) i wish i could write faster...!
i'm glad you like my ideas so far!! i'm not too sure about blaze being bismuth but i'm not aversed to it either. i think ill go over some different options for him and see what i land on.
even though it was only the last part of your message this entire reply will be about nicole and dante. you gave me an opportunity to talk about my favorite characters and i'm running with it.
unfortunately, nicole is the only one who fits as jasper which hurts me as a dancole shipper. however since i adore nicole and jasper is my favorite su character i kindof win here! besides, the only other character dante has a negative relationship with is gene and for obvious reasons that's not going to work!
(as i'm writing this i'm realizing i could probably write gene as bismuth? to mirror their relationship in mcd, dante had attempted to out gene as apart of the rebellion and gene, panicked, decided to poof him. homeworld mistook dante as apart of the chrystal gems and then imprisoned him within the magical mirror.)
(then again gene and bismuth are such fundamentally different characters i feel like slotting him in for that reason alone would be lame lmao)
i quickly doodled this to give you an idea but i'm reaaaaallly excited to properly design nicole. one aspect about jasper's character i find interesting is that she feels like a failure for coming from the beta kindergarten and being associated with rose quartz, so i thought it'd be interesting if nicole hid her gem!
... which wouldn't work since jasper's gem is on her nose but i'm considering changing gem placements so rather than appearing anywhere they'd align with the diamond that created them. in this case, nicole's gem would be on her stomach.
right now i'm considering nicole in a more military-esque admiral look and she slowly loses layers throughout her downfall. first shedding the coat during her fight with garnet and then her underclothes becoming tattered because of her corruption. i'm also thinking about giving her a tight braid that becomes loose, leaving her hair wild like the original jasper is.
i know once i figured out nicole's design i'll redraw a few scenes from su. i'm torn between the initial fusion dance and the boat proposal scene because both drive me insane...!
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