#source: the magnus protocol

[incorrectsistersgrimmquotes]

Daphne: You can be creeped out, or you can be sarcastic. You can't be both

Sabrina: Watch me

#sisters grimm #sabrina grimm #daphne grimm #source: the magnus protocol

[dirt-and-scrivles]

puters in love

#jmart #tma #tmagp #jonathan sims #martin blackwood #are they Jon and Martin? who knows. I will still draw puters in love #tmagp chester #tmagp norris #trust me chester and Norris are MAG65’d jmart #source: please I really want it #the Magnus protocol

[its-your-mind]

*deep breath in*

the fears 👏 have always 👏 been (in one way or another) 👏 parallel 👏 to 👏 desire 👏

let me explain.

so many of the statements given by actual avatars center around some sort of need that was met by their entity. Lots of them even had a positive relationship with the fear that drove them.

Jane Prentiss is an excellent example - the Corruption has always been about a form of toxic and possessive love, but she personally has a deep desire to be “fully consumed by what loves her,” and finds a perverse joy and relief at allowing herself to be a home

Jude Perry is another - she fucking loved watching people’s lives be utterly destroyed. The Desolation only offered her a power of destruction on a grander scale, and then gave her a more intense rush of joy as she did its work. When she tells Jon that he needs to feed the Eye before it feeds on him, it’s almost as an afterthought; she was happily feeding the Desolation long before it burned her into a new existence.

Simon Fairchild. Every time that old loose bag of bones wanders into the picture, he is having a fucking EXCELLENT time playing with the Vast. He loves showing people their own insignificance, and he loves luring them into situations where he can throw them into the void as he smiles and waves.

Peter Lukas (hell, the whole Lukas family (except Evan. RIP Evan.)) hated. people. all he wanted was for them all to go away, to leave him alone. The Lonely only fulfilled that desire.

Daisy, Trevor, and Julia, all devoted to hunting those things they deemed monstrous.

Melanie, holding tight to that bullet in her leg because on some level, she wanted it. It felt good, it felt right, it felt like it fit right alongside the anger and spite that drove her to success.

Annabelle Cane first encountered the Web when she was a child, running away from home in order to tug on her parents’ heartstrings in just the right way to have them wrapped around her little finger. Later on she volunteered to be the subject of an ESP study. Hell, she’s the one who dangled the “Is it really You that wants this?” question over Jon’s head in S4.

And that brings us to Jon, beloved Jarchivist, the Voice that Opened the Door. Ever since he was a child targeted by the Web, he was looking for answers. He joined the Magnus Institute’s Research Department looking for them, he stalked his coworkers in search for them, he broke into Gertrude’s flat and laptop out of desperation for them. And when he realized that all he had to do was Ask to get truthful answers to his questions? It was only natural for him to jump at that opportunity.

Elias told S3 Jon that he did want this, that he chose it, that at every crossroads he kept pushing onwards, and the inner turmoil that caused was one of the focal points for Jon’s character through the rest of the podcast.

There’s a certain line of thinking in many circles about the power of the Devil: he’s not able to create anything new. All he’s able to do is twist and warp that which was already present, making it something ugly and profane while still maintaining the facade of something desirable.

Jon didn’t choose the Eye. But he did wander into its realm of power, exhibiting exactly the qualities it was most capable of hijacking and warping to its own ends. Jon didn’t choose the Apocalypse. But Jonah picked at him little by little, pointing him towards each Fear individually. Jon didn’t want to release the Fears. But the Web tugged on his strings just so and laid a pretty trail for him to follow until he reached its desired conclusion.

Jon didn’t choose ultimate power, or omniscience, or even his own role as Head Archivist. But he said “yes” to the right (wrong?) orders and kept on pushing for the right (wrong?) answers. He wanted to succeed at the work he had been assigned. He wanted to protect his friends. He wanted to rescue them when they were lost. He wanted to prevent the apocalypse, to save the world. He wanted to know why he was still alive, when so many had died right in front of him.

The Great Wheel of Evil Color that is the Entities might not fit as neatly into categories in this universe - maybe there was no Robert Smirke trying to impose strict categories on emotional experiences, or maybe the ways they manifest in the world has turned on its head (goodness knows many of them have been showcased and blended in some very fun and new and horrifying ways so far) - but their fundamental foundations seem to be the same. Hell, in episode one we learned that there had been enough individual incidents to create a distinction between “dolls, watching” and “dolls, human skin.”

Smirke’s Fourteen isn’t going to be relevant as common parlance, RQ said that already, but I don’t think that means the Fears themselves (and their Dream Logic-based rules) are different - I think it means that the levels of understanding, language used, and personal connections among people “in the know” are going to be entirely unfamiliar

#tma #tmagp #the magnus protocol #tmagp meta #tmagp analysis #the entities #robert smirke #smirke's fourteen #mind write a meta post that doesn’t turn into a fucking essay challenge #I literally thought about citing my episode sources here but decided that would get too FUCKING long. #anyway I’m pulling mostly from Gerry’s statement (111) and #and the Big Elias Group Confrontation (92) #and Annabelle’s statement (147) #and then finale - 196 / 197 / 200 #there are other little lines that I grabbed - tbh feel free to ask about anything I’ve said bc I feel like I’m ready to defend a thesis #I’ve been thinking about this on and off for a few weeks since the desire thing started going around #I have an obsession with Themes as they relate to Worldbuilding and now I have subjected you all to it as well #I am serious tho if anyone wants me to pull the specific parts I’m talking about (whether cuz you have Questions or you wanna ref them too) #lmk #my hyperfocus on silly media brain might as well come in useful somehow #aight peace ✌️

[4amode]

What do you mean the psychotic episode I just had a few days ago is not a reliable source for my essay?!?

#tmagp ep 8 #tmagp 08 #tmagp #the magnus protocol #the magnus pod #you think im joking #i would def use it as a reliable source in my dissertation #nothing shocks my professor anymore

[gammija]

Gwen is gonna get what she wanted and be forced to learn very quickly about all the weird and horrible stuff at the foundation of the OIAR and either lose her mind or take to it like a duck to water, and i cant wait to see which one its gonna be

#who's her source? #im gonna say. her dad. no real reason #could also be Klaus #but itd be fun to hear an Elias without an Edwardian immortal piloting him #tmagp #tmagp s1 #tmagp spoilers #tmagp theory #ish #the magnus protocol #magp07 #magp007 #gwendolyn bouchard #gwendolyn

[the-magnus-archives-wiki]

The Magnus Protocol Kickstarter is going live at 4pm GMT tomorrow!

They will also be doing another livestream with Jonny, Alex, and guests at 5:30pm GMT

#the magnus archives #the magnus protocol #tma #tmagp #sourced from their twitter #this meme worked better when it was tma2 but alas

[alicedyerappreciator]

in my ideal world everyone in the OIAR is in one loving but messy polycule.

#you get your toxic workplace yuri #but from two directions (gwen/alice and lana/gwen) #also not sourcing from my real life but alice and sam having joking rock paper scissors matches over who gets to date celia #i dont know who colin would be with but I would like to imagine him as the brain cell #polyamory #tmagp #the magnus protocol #OIAR #colin becher #samama khalid #gwen bouchard #lana kelley #celia ripley

[wywrds]

hey hey what was episode 7, hey hey what was all those references to MAG s5, hey hey what if there was another reference in the hill top house where the man in black who carried Dianne is this universe’s version of the Cult of the Post Change World. Hey hey what if they’re trying to stop the apocalypse or the Fears gaining power.

Hey

Hey

Celia seems to know a suspicious amount of information on the apocalypse and the Fears. And was a part of the cult in the other universe. And this account addressed the Buried (being buried under bodies) after Celia asked about finding cases like this.

#the Magnus protocol #tmagp #Celia Ripley #rattling my cage #spiraling into hill top is the same power source across universes and links them together somehow. and Celia Knows. #maybe she body jumped like Jonah who knows #but multiple fears in one spot?? different to the initial fears there in tma #:waaah:

[moonsanoverthinker]

I just tried explaining the plot of episode 3 of protocol to someone who’s never listened to archives or protocol

I had to explain how a man became a tree. It took three attempts.

#the magnus protocol #tmapg #this person doesn’t listen to either podcast #I am their only source of information #by which I mean they are told random lore pieces daily #because I must bring it up at least once a day

[howboutsleep]

god no...... i just realized............. alice dyer is on tiktok.........................

#source: the voices #the magnus protocol #tmagp #alice dyer

[fucky-oureyes]

Server for systems with The Magnus Archives / The Magnus Protocol fictives!

Hi! If you're a system with fictives from TMA and / or TMAGP and would like a space for systems in order to find sourcemates, me and my friends just finished making one!

Off the bat I would like to make it clear that this server is accepting of all system origins, however, discussions of syscourse are not allowed in the server. We don't have a specific stance on shipcourse, however, we are anti-harassment, and incest and pedophilia are topics banned from the server even in a shipping way.

We're open for suggestions for emojis, channels, etc, if you're interested, feel free to pop on in and immediately leave the server if you decide that it's not for you!

#elena.txt #note i have uh. NO idea how to tag this so uh. fuck it we ball? #the magnus archives fictive #the magnus archives introject #the magnus protocol fictive #the magnus protocol introject #system server #sourcemate call #discord server #UHHH. are there more i have to add i'm so good at this #👍 #all systems welcome #we also have a channel for split source fictives so uh. that's fun!!

[astronomifier]

Yall need to draw ur alice magnus archives WAY more genderfucky than that. She works at a dead end job specifcially because she doesnt have to give a shit. she barely voice trains if at all. girl would NOT have flawless hair and makeup she would be showing up to her night shift with 2 days of stubble and a death stare for anyone who even thinks about commenting

#tmp #the magnus protocol #alice dyer #alice tmp #Source: shes me

[n30nkn1ght]

tmagp6 was so silly! blah-blah-iconic statement or casement or whatever we're calling them aside, focused on the sillies! alice and sam are tall! they were already tall in my head but. TALL QUEEN AND KING!

#the magnus protocol #tmagp #tmagp6 #tmagp vague #alice and her ominous statements tho #oh no scary joking-until-she-actually-becomes-inhuman theories aside #alice totally has self worth problems. no one makes so many jokes abt being god without like #actually thinking very lowly of themself #alice and i literally have the same sense of humor so i'm right #source: trust me bro

[hahaheart1]

Just finished listening to TMA

It was really good :)!

#hahaheart1 #tma #the magnus archives #WHAT THE HONK #THAT'S HOW IT ENDS??? #very good that was a pretty good ending yes yes BUT QHAT #None of my favourite characters are confirmed alive and okay. #I loved the ending but hey what #or they're just dead-dead #I had 5 #head in hands #Statistically speaking one should have lived but here we are #I rarely have that many favs but hey #I have all of the thoughts but none of the words I can not be coherent in written form #All I can say is I loved this so much it was so very good & probably will be a source of inspiration for me in the years to come. #I do suppose I have The Magnus Protocol to look forward to huh. #Hm maybe I should have procrastinated more on watching it huh then I'd have been able to binge listen to *everything* /lh #but nah this was fun it took a little less than a month to consume years worth of work that's really something #oh there are some bonus things in the playlist though so

[annabelle--cane]

"the magnus protocol had a whole ARG beforehand? what?"

yes! it did!

"oh so I need to have participated in this whole big thing to actually understand the podcast?"

not at all! from the official post-mortem put out by RQ, "while the ARG was not something that was necessary to participate in to understand the magnus protocol, it was designed to contain a wealth of background story and context that would enrich any player's listening experience."

"a wealth of background context that would enrich my listening experience 👀👀👀 how can I learn about this?"

SO glad you asked. sadly, many of the materials made for the arg have been taken down since the game ended 😔 (ex., the official OIAR, magnus institute, and bonzoland websites. (edit ii: I found partial wayback machine captures! see below) though @strangehauntsuk is still up!), so we're a bit low on primary sources, but in terms of learning about what happened:

for a starting point, I would really recommend this video by @pinkelotjeart

it's super accessible, it was made in real time as the game progressed and follows the solving and revelation of clues as they happened, it hits all the major points of the mystery and moments of community insanity while eliding some of the nitty gritty puzzle grinding, 10/10 would recommend.

here's the official summary put out by RQ, and I'd recommend reading through this once you've already gotten a basic handle on the flow of the story and the basic connections between major clues and events. it's got some fun behind-the-scenes info and lays out the thought process behind the puzzles in simple terms

here's the full masterdoc of all puzzles and resolutions put together in the statement remains discord server. masterdoc my absolute BELOVED, masterdoc my bethrothed, masterdoc my soul mate. I'd recommend this as a second port of call after the above video as it either contains all details about the puzzles or links to other expanded docs that do.

here's the narrative summary doc that lays out all the plot and lore discovered in three pages of plain prose. if you just want to get to the good bits as fast as you can and get blasted directly in the face by contextless lore bombs, this is the doc for you. if you don't want to start with the video, I'd say this is another good entry point.

once you've got the lay of the land, some of the game materials that I found particularly interesting include:

the in-universe east germany expat usenet forum, with all content translated into english. most of it is irrelevant space filler with occasional extremely sus lore, but I still found it fun to read through. love to soak in some fictional forum drama.

chdb.xlsx, the spreadsheet of the names of all the children the protocol 'verse magnus institute was studying/experimenting on. EDIT: here is a version of the sheet without any annotations and with all of the names in their original order, kudos to @theboombutton for catching that the commonly shared copy had the order swapped around.

klaus.xls, a (very corrupted) spreadsheet with what looks like the classifications of a bunch of old OIAR cases.

EDIT: have a few more saved materials from the game that I forgot to include.

an in-universe audio ad to apply to the OIAR that ran before archives episodes and kicked off the whole game.

an in-universe video ad to apply to the OIAR, this one is an official upload that's still up from the game itself. you can subscribe to the OIAR's official youtube channel today, if you so chose.

the robo-voicemail greeting from the OIAR's phone line.

EDIT II:

here is a wayback machine capture of the OIAR's official website.

here is a wayback machine capture of the bonzoland website.

(pretty sure both of the above captures just archived the home pages, though I haven't tried clicking all of the links. I'd say they're still worth looking at, the home pages give a good window into the vibes.)

once you start poking around in these documents, you'll find a bunch of links to others with further information, the materials I've included here just contain what I feel to be the most relevant details to getting a broad feel for the whole game. once again, huge shout out to the statement remains server, I was barely in there as the ARG was in progress and only ducked my head in every so often to find links like these. true mvps of the fandom.

#gonna pin this for a bit because every day I get 2-5 asks saying 'there was an arg? how do I learn about it?' #tmagp #video #marina marvels at life

[restlesschilled]

They added the design for the Magnus protocol kickstarter exclusive shirt and the Latin translates to “we will not waver”

Edit: I misspelled the word in google translate the Translation of “Non Vallicabimus” is actually “we will not FALTER”

Falter and Waver are technically synonymous but falter has more to do with fear which, considering the source material, makes more sense

#tma #magnuspod #the magnus archives #the magnus protocol #magnus protocol #magnus archives 2