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chef-alta · 9 months
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ive had a megop host club au living in my head rent free for the past three months and now i need to draw it
Like what if Orion Pax was like Haruhi in OHSHC, where he had to take up the role as a rookie host alongside his archiving job or something. And then I was like what if Megatron was one of the top hosts at the club, but this new sweet and shy rookie starts getting more popular and climbing up the ranks because of he's just so darn stinking cute. Sooo Megs and Orion get tangled in a rivalry on who can be the top host, but theY END UP DEVELOPING FEELINGS FROM RIVALRY TO LOVERS THIS IDEA IS SO STUPID BUT IT WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE AND I NEED TO DRAW IT NOWWW
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tempter-sent · 16 days
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I'm so obsessed with their dynamic in this movie!!!! OP manspreading in his chair and Megs being the one that's tightly-wound and anxious ohhhh I'm in heaven
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koumori-1999 · 5 months
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christmas shopping
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transingthoseformers · 7 months
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Idea but when semi reformed!sg earthspark Optimus wants something he has a habit of sitting/standing semi close to someone and just looming instead of asking like a well adjusted adult.
"Optimus, is there something you want?"
"No"
"Are you sure?"
"..."
"Do you want a sip of my sweetened energon?"
"...yes."
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dian-mian · 1 year
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Gayy gayy
Also bonus:
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something something strangers to friends to enemies to lovers and something about never being able to truly hate them no matter how much you try to and how so many people tell you you should because every time you see their face you remember the friend you used to know even though you’ve hurt each other so much and you can’t go back to change your mistakes and forever in the back in your mind think about what could have been
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lord-squiggletits · 4 months
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On the MegOP fandom trend of saying "Optimus should apologize to Megatron"
(Speaking specifically for IDW1, though it applies to a lot of MegOP especially ones that do continuity soup with heavy reference to IDW1)
I was talking to a friend in DMs and they mentioned a common headcanon/fanfic trope that I also concurred with, and both of us said it's something that bothers us: a common take in the MegOP fandom goes basically along the lines of "If Optimus had just apologized to Megatron, the war would've ended" (or other variants including "if he'd tried harder to understand Megatron/work in collaboration with him").
And firstly, this is incorrect for a number of reasons:
There were attempts at peace negotiations during the war, but they fell through. So Optimus WAS trying to work with Megatron to the point of participating in formal diplomatic meetings.
Optimus tried multiple times on page to convince Megatron to just stop fighting and work with him for peace (Autocracy, Chaos Theory) that Megatron rejected. Given that these on-page examples take place at the start of the war and at the end of the war respectively, it makes sense that Optimus asking Megatron for collaboration is something he was trying/willing to do the entire time. So again, Optimus was always willing AND ATTEMPTING to work with Megatron and find a joint solution
Even before the war when Optimus was still Orion, he was very explicitly inspired by Megatron's writing and names Megatron as one of the people who "opened his eyes" to the wrongs of Cybertronian society. So how is it that people claim "the war went on for too long because Optimus never tried to understand Megatron" when OP literally named Megatron as one of his biggest idols, thus implying that OP does understand Megatron's ideals
But the primary purpose of this post wasn't to defend Optimus, actually. Even though I personally think Optimus did plenty (dare I say, everything) to try to end the war, there are some who may still think otherwise, so instead of arguing about whether Optimus did "enough", or who should apologize to whom, or who "deserves the blame" for starting/continuing the war, I'd actually rather talk about this:
No matter who is most "to blame" for the war, it's my firm belief that neither Megatron nor Optimus would even expect/demand the other to apologize to them at all.
On Megatron's side, he would never seek to judge Optimus negatively for the decisions to the point of saying "you wronged me, apologize." Whether it's evil Megatron who doesn't care about atrocities and revels in an opportunity to expose Optimus as a hypocrite, or post-war/Autobot Megatron who knows that his own evil actions are irredeemable, the idea of Megatron judging Optimus and demanding an apology for the war specifically strikes me as out-of-character. Why would Megatron demand or even want an apology from Optimus when Megatron knows fully well that he has his own sins to bear, he prolonged the war for his own selfish/material gain, and that he is responsible for an untold amount of suffering? Demanding an apology would imply that Megatron sees himself as the wronged party and Optimus as the wrongdoer, but by the end of the war, Megatron is too aware of his own part in the war to ever demand such a thing of Optimus. Even if he DID think that Optimus was "equally to blame" for the war (which he doesn't/wouldn't, btw), Megatron's own feelings of guilt would prevent him from trying to seek the petty satisfaction of the moral high ground or making Optimus beg for his forgiveness.
Additionally, Megatron knows Optimus very well as a person: he knows that the position of leadership is full of "loneliness [and] agonizing self-doubt" for Optimus (Chaos Theory) and that "when Optimus hurts others, he hurts himself" (MTMTE). Another reason that Megatron wouldn't demand nor want an apology from Optimus is because Megatron knows Optimus so well that he already knows that being a war leader fills Optimus with immense guilt and suffering. Given that Megatron knows about Optimus' self-doubt and guilt, why would he even need an apology when he already knows how much Optimus regrets the war and desperately wishes/wished for it to end?
Then, as established in the previous paragraphs, Optimus is too full of guilt for his part in the war (both before it started and in being unable to stop it sooner) to demand an apology from Megatron. Again, demanding an apology would put Optimus in an implied position of moral superiority and/or victimhood, but Optimus doesn't see himself as morally superior or as a victim (or rather, he sees himself as being responsible for these bad things happening and internalizes this as a duty to do better/fix wrongdoings). In other words, Megatron and Optimus both share this view of themselves and each other: Their hands are so dirty, and they both feel such guilt over this, and they know each other well enough to know that the other feels this way as well. Because both of them feel blame for the war and are acutely aware of their own flaws/part in suffering, both of them feel far too responsible for the war happening for them to ever blame their archnemesis for "not trying harder" or "being responsible for the war."
Hell, if you even look at the socio-political climate of Cybertron before the war started, neither Megatron nor Optimus were the ones who put this conflict into motion. The corrupt legacy of the Primes, Functionism, class issues-- all of these things existed before Megatron and Optimus did. Even once they started doing things like writing about social issues (M) or fighting against the Senate (OP), both of them were "underlings" in sense that they weren't leaders:
Megatron's writings may have inspired the Decepticon movement, but that movement existed as an independent entity with its own leaders and speakers long before Megatron became the "official" ruler of the Decepticons. He wasn't even the leader of the 'Cons until he took control of the gladiator arena and the nonviolent sections of the Decepticons were (presumably) subsumed into the underground, exploitative battle culture that Megatron created.
Optimus-as-Orion was a police officer to start, but even once he started going against the Senate, he mainly worked in collaboration with others like Senator Shockwave and Zeta (later Zeta Prime), who he either saw as his idols or who were literally superior to him in rank due to government/military structures.
So with this in mind, even from a social level, while Megatron and Optimus may have been "catalysts" of a sort that caused the war to escalate to an outright planetary/galactic level, the scenario is too complex to solely lay the blame for the war at either of their feet. I'm not confident in saying that Megatron/Optimus would explicitly think of this when talking to each other, but what I'm trying to say is that M/OP were just catalysts in a long chain of brewing tension that exploded into a war. Even if one could claim that one of them "started" or "escalated" the war, the social issues that caused the war and the positions of power that allowed them to become leaders in the first place were falling into place before either of them actually BECAME leaders.
In other words, this shared fate of being the final reaction that exploded a societal conflict into outright war... Megatron and Optimus both have that in common. And because of this, I really don't think either of them would even think to ask the other to apologize because they're both in such similar positions, with such similar feelings of guilt and responsibility, that they understand each other's feelings without words. To demand an apology would be akin to taking that shared vulnerability/guilt and stepping on it, attempting to claim that one is right/superior and the other is wrong/inferior, and that the inferior one needs to grovel and take responsibility for the bad things that happened.
#squiggposting#idw megop#idk if this'll get me hate or not but it's something i think about a lot#and verbalizing it to that friend in DMs helped me put into words why that common fanon take bothers me#also. hot take but if any 'apologies' are necessary then it's M who should be apologizing to OP#the war may be both of their faults but M is the one who explicitly did/said things just to hurt OP and break his spirit#i'm tired of ppl who don't understand (or at least don't discuss) how hurt OP is and how he deserves recogniztion of his feelings too#megop#then again this fanon take may just be a consequence of continuity soup culture#where ppl don't have to acknowledge specific things that M or OP did bc they can just selectively include or not include details from canon#so like. i guess in their continuity soup continuties their fanon is technically correct#but in terms of the source material which is the one shared experience we all have and the common language we derive fanon from#this fanon is very incorrect. or at least i hope i've managed to argue that it's incorrect#anyways the thesis of megop is that they're equals and opposites who are inextricably tied to each other#fanon that tries to place the blame on one or castigate one of them is missing the point of megop#the point is that they're equal. equally strong and charismatic and amazing. and equally culpable#even if they're not literally equally responsible for idw megop at least they at least both FEEL responsible#and i don't think idw megops are the type to mince words about who's 'more responsible'#they're both depressed old men who hate themselves and regret basically their whole lives. why would they judge each other like that
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ovletoak · 1 year
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cloudydreamingart · 10 months
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MEGOP REWRITE
ok ok so unhinged thought and idea BUT
Yall know how there are a bunch of fantasy romances that are rewrites of fairytales???
IMAGINE A REWRITE OF FUCKIN MEGOP AS AN ACTUAL BOOK??!!!!
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I'm not going to be participating in the reverse bang because I don't know if it'll be safe for Jewish creators, but I'm hoping that everyone who does participate has a great time.
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pale-fairytales · 2 years
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Goodbyes (MegOp ficlet)
"Still too slow, Orion."
Sometimes Optimus can still hear what used to be Megatron's voice.
"No—you need to hold the saber like this."
It's always the dead of night when he does, in the times he can't sleep, in the creak of the earth base he had acquired for his team. For the future. For Cybertron.
"You'll never win at this rate! You're like a sparkling!" Megatronus' laugh used to be so full of life, even in the darkest times.
He swears he can still feel his touch. Optimus can't help recalling the smells and sights of the arenas, of the gladiator standing above him, hand outstretched. Sometimes he wishes it was still there for him to take.
"Don't you think there needs to be a change, Orion?"
He keeps having dreams. He keeps feeling him everywhere, without reprieve. He keeps remembering. He keeps trying to forget. He keeps feeling, and it won't stop.
"Can't you see this has gone on long enough?" He feels himself saying to the voice of his friend when he was his friend, "How can you ever hope for change, if your approach utilizes rage?"
"You fool," Megatron always snaps back. "What change can be made if we aren't angry enough to act? Are you not angry as well?"
Optimus doesn't know the answer. He awakes at night, again, for what felt like the thousandth night in a row. He shudders at the freezing cold. He shakily reaches for his face, unable to bring himself to close his optics again. The base is quiet. He does not forget his place, even as the tears threaten to roll down his cheeks. He knows he shouldn't be upset anymore. He doesn't have the luxury.
"Optimus wouldn't do that," he hears Jack insist at the suggestion that Megatron be executed. He prickles, knowing that Jack is a naive child, that he is wrong because of this fact.
Recharge is no longer an option. He rises slowly from his berth. His habsuite is plain, undecorated. He feels both as though he is alone and yet not. He cannot shake the indominable, intense, unrelenting ache in his spark.
"So it has come to this." Megatron's voice is rendered into a low rumble, forced to his knees before the prime, his body too damaged to move. "You would throw away our history—our future—Cybertron—you would throw it away for little fleshlings?"
Optimus trembles as he recalls that day. His hands still feel heavy with the war ending tool.
"Freedom is the right for all sentient beings," Optimus affirms. Megatron scoffs. "You tried to destroy the humans in your prideful attempt for power. You have all but destroyed your own troops, if they have not already defected—this must come to an end." Megatron does not yield. Optimus must force the serious, emotionless look to return to his face. "Don't make me do this, Megatron."
He must repeat his adversary's name. He can't stop himself from recalling all of those times in the arenas. He can't stop himself from pacing, slowly, about his habsuite, thinking only how his voice used to be so gentle. How life once did not have to be like...this. How once, Megatron was Megatronus, how Megatronus used to smile so sincerely, despite it all. They were young. Optimus misses when they were young.
"You know I will not yield. You'll regret this." Megatron's voice is a low rumble as he tries to drag himself away. Optimus steps forward, firmly pressing his pede against Megatron's chasis, in every attempt to halt his movements. The ex-gladiator grunts. "Optimus," His tone has changed, subtly, in such a way that almost makes him pause. "We were sparkmates. Tethered to one another. It can't end like this."
Optimus can already hear Ratchet in the neighboring habsuite, preparing to get up. He's acutely aware he will check on him.
"Orion," Megatronus' voice was so soft. "Orion Pax of Iacon." And it was so musical, as if he had not spent day in and day out in the dastardly mines. It brings a smile to Orion's faceplates. "Light of my life."
He can still recall the sight of Megatron's form among the rocks, leaking energon into the bitter earth. He knows it needed to be done, at the expense of their bond. He knows the agony of the broken bond is a small price to pay.
"I love you," Megatronus promises, taking Orion's smaller servo in his own.
Part of Optimus wishes that he'd been lying when Megatronus told him he'd loved him. The other part is sure he was.
Sometimes Optimus still wishes he can tell him he loved him.
"I love you too. Always." Orion promises, blissfully unaware that this would be the last time he could ever say that.
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Final Day of Megaop Week!
This was actually my first time participating in it, and it was fun! I might continue to participate in these if I continue to stay in the Transformers fandom. I don't think I'm leaving this fandom or this interest anytime soon..
Day 7:Freedom
I'm very forgetful, so I have the prompts on my phone, but I forgot to delete it out- this was like 10 at night I was kinda tired.
When I saw the freedom prompt, I was trying to think of how to do it. Then I was like, wait. FLAGS. Flags normally represent freedom, depending on the flag. So I decided to have them standing in front of two flags. I didn't even want to attempt the autobot and decepticon logo lol
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wifeguycyclonus · 3 months
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Scarlet by In This Moment has megop vibes and its driving me insane
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creehd · 14 days
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Megop nation its to my humblest and most correct opinion, to anoint the official knightformers (my wonderful husband @archie-sunshine) Megatron / Optimus prime song as this ;
SPECIFICALLY how a younger orion pax has heavy longing he can't place, and can't shake. ever have a 3 billion year situationship fellas
And as always art is @archie-sunshine 's wonderful artwork :]
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lord-squiggletits · 1 year
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Because I love IDW OP angst I've thought of writing a one-shot where he attempts suicide and is foiled, with bonus MegOP as Megatron (somehow) is there when he wakes up in the hospital. Honestly I could probably write it and crank it out in a single session as long as I don't over think it and let myself write something without an elaborate planning process beforehand.
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thewiglesswonder · 1 year
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My absolute favorite thing about TFP Megop specifically is when writers/artists devote a second to the other characters' reactions to this trash fire, which is usually something like
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