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I would love to hear more on, Mongolia's children? Ilkhanate and all the others.

But I would really love to hear is more about the central Asians!

Thank you for your ask. I'll take this opportunity to talk more about IIkhanate/Chagatai Khanate and their relationship with Mongolia as I don't think they get much attention, the Golden Horde and Kazakhstan, and then the Central Asians. 

I would really like to thank @peonycats for their help with the Central Asian section! 

With Ilkhanate: I think Ilkhanate's relationship with Mongolia was a little strange, but part of it can be chalked up to the fact that it followed traditional structures within Mongol culture in father-son relationships. Typically in Mongol culture, the youngest son would be kept closest to the father/parents, whereas the oldest would inherit the father’s land furthest away from them (golden horde). The youngest son would be called the Otchigen, meaning "prince of the hearth", being kept close to his parents and being expected to take care of them. With IIkhanate being the youngest, this tradition was reflected in his relationship with Mongolia. IIkhanate - out of his 2 brothers, not only was the youngest born but also the youngest in terms of establishing his Khanate, with the Golden Horde and Chagatai Khanate establishing their rules in 1226/7, and the IIkhanate in 1256 after the conquest of Baghdad under Hulegu Khan. This means that Ilkhanate had alot more time with Mongolia personally before he was sent off officially to govern his own lands, and additionally because of his status as the "prince of the hearth" being the youngest, Mongolia was more emotionally involved with Ilkhanate compared to his brothers. I'll elaborate on their relationship a little more later. 

The Ilkhanate was a result of the Great Khan at the time (Mongke) sending Hulegu (his brother) out to the middle east to conquer it. Despite plans of Hulegu returning to the Mongolian heartland after his expedition to the East, he stayed and established the IIkhanate. It is thought that this was the plan all along. 

It is my headcanon that the golden horde, chagatai khanate and ilkhanate were born some years before the official establishment of their khanates because they were representatives of the lands that Chinggis Khan's sons would inherit, as per Mongol tradition which is in turn reflective of what lands Chinggis assigned to each of his sons in the year 1219, just before the invasion of the Khwarezmian Empire. In 1219, Empress Yisui convinced Chinggis that he needed to choose an heir before the invasion of the Khwarezmian empire. He agreed, and chose Ogedei, his third son, as his heir, leaving Jochi (his eldest) and Chagatai (his second eldest) inheritance to their own lands in the future after his death and Tolui, his youngest, to act as the Otchigen. 

You're probably wondering why Chinggis did not choose Jochi, his eldest, to become the next great Khan. This was for quite a few reasons. 

Between Ogedei and Tolui, the two youngest, both were the strongest candidates to become the great Khan/heir/who Mongolia would accompany. This is because Mongol succession tradition was ultimogeniture, meaning that the youngest born had the position of inheriting their parent's wealth. Jochi and Chagatai were already cut out of the inheritance race for various reasons including the fact that they were the eldest and because of this, they did not have succession privilege, but ultimately electing either one of them could be a recipe for disaster in the future considering how much they hated each other.

So it was left between the two youngest - Ogedei and Tolui, either one of them could have been the next Great Khan and ruler of the Mongol Empire/who Mongolia would be accompanying/ruling alongside. In the end, Ogedei was chosen as he was seen as fair tempered and generous.

Now that it was official that Ogedei was to become the next great Khan, and that Jachi and Chagatai would be given their own domains to rule over once Chinggis died (still answering the Ogedei, as he would be the great Khan, of course), this meant that the representatives of Jochi and Chagatai's future domains would begin to be born. I headcanon that Jochi's future ulus (kingdom), the Golden Horde, was born in the year 1219, and Chagatai's ulus was born one year afterwards in 1220. I gave them a one year age difference to reflect the one year age difference between Jochi and Chagatai themselves.

From now on, I'll begin to refer to them using their human names. 

Ogtbish = Golden Horde 

Khenbish = Chagatai Khanate

Khunbish = Ikhanate  

I won't exclusively refer to them as their human names however just for reference, if I say "Ogtbish" for example lam referring to Golden Horde. 

Golden horde, the first born, represented future Jochid land (the Golden Horde was ruled by Jochid Khans), the Chagatai Khanate represented future Chagataid land (ruled by the Chagataids) and lastly, the IIkhanate represented future Hulagu/Toluid land (I say Toluid lands because the IIkhanate was ruled by Toluids because of Hulegu, who was a son of Tolui. It should be noted that the heartland of the Mongol Empire, later the yuan dynasty who Mongolia himself represented also became ruled by Toluids after the death of Guyuk Khan who was the son of Ogedei, and Mongke Khan took over. He was the first Toluid Khan.) 

Now this begs the question, what about IIkhanate? When was he born? Wasn't the Ilkhanate established later in the late 1250s? 

That would be correct. However | see IIkhanate as being born in 1224, and here is my reasoning: 

1) The future ruler/establisher of the IIkhanate, Hulagu (grandson of Genghis and son of Tolui) was already born by this point (born in 1217), and just like how the Golden Horde and Chagatai Khanate were ruled by Jochi and Chagatai's bloodline, the IIkhanate was ruled by Hulagu's bloodline. 

2) The IIkhanate was originally based off of the Mongol invasions of the Khwarezmian Empire that lasted from 1219-1224. Strong Mongol rule was later consolidated in 1256 by Hulagu Khan, however it was based off of these original invasions. 

3) So, two foundations of the IIkhanate, the future ruler and the original invasions it was based off of, were in existence by 1224. The first foundation may be a little more mystical in nature however even without the first reason, the Ilkhanate being based off of those original invasions is enough justification for me to make him be born in 1224. 

So, the official birth dates in my canon: 

1219: Ogtbish (Golden Horde) 

1220: Khenbish (Chagatai Khanate)

1224: Khunbish (Ilkhanate) 

 The Golden Horde was officially established in 1227, ahd the Chagatai was officially established in 1226, one year before. The fact the Khenbish had his ulus established one year before his eldest brother definitely gave him a further sense of superiority over his brother. I'll elaborate on this later when I talk about Khenbish specifically. 

It is my canon that Ogtbish and Khenbish were officially released to their lands by 1235/6 despite the fact that the Golden Horde and Chagatai Khanate were established in 1227/6. This doesn't mean they were completely cut off from the ongoings/politics of their lands, and they were allowed frequent visits, however they were kept back temporarily in a bad attempt on Mongolia's part to instil a sense of supremacy over them. To teach/remind them that despite the fact that they had their own domains, that they would always answer back to Mongolia/the Great Khan. As Jack Weatherford describes in "Genghis Khan and the making of the modern world", Chinggis only began to realise nearing the end of his life that he should have been more present of a father, and desperately tried to get his sons (particularly Jochi and Chagatai) to get along by sending them on joint military campaigns for example as a way of mending their relationship and teaching fhem the importance of unity, along with a load of other life lessons. The siege of Ugrench for example lasted for months longer than it should have because Jochi and Chagatai kept on sabotaging each other. Similarly, holding them back was a failed attempt on Mongolia's part to teach them about unity. Remember that the Mongol Empire split up in the 1260s, and the four Khanates were still functioning as a unit in the 1230s, hence why I don't think that this headcanon is unreasonable.

Now onto IIkhanate's relationship with Mongolia and what I was previously talking about: Considering the fact that "iIkhanate" literally meant "subordinate/obedient Khanate", that traditionally the youngest son would be kept close to the father and the official establishment of the Ilkhanate as a state was a bit later than his older brothers, llkhanate spent a lot of time with Mongolia personally. Mongolia was quite sticky towards IIkhanate in particular, especially when his eldest sons would fight with each other and then with him.

Before being released to his own domain, Ilkhanate took on a similar supportive role that Tolui did, and acted as kind of an assistant/administrator for Mongolia. He was certainly very keen on doing a good job. His older brothers on the other hand thought he was quite pathetic and spoiled - they had bigger responsibilities pushed onto them earlier than he did after all.

From Christopher Attwood, a prominent historian on Mongolia "The dynasty's traditional foreign policy revolved around three rivals, Mamluk Egypt, the Golden Horde, the Chagatay Khanate, and one ally, the Yuan Dynasty." 

One ally. The Yuan Dynasty (Mongolia.) 

The Mongol empire, after breaking into 4 parts in the 1260s, never collaborated closely with each other again. In fact, the different Khanates began fighting each other (much to Mongolia's chagrin because wtf I'm your father why aren't you listening to me stop that-). 

That is except, between the Yuan dynasty and IIkhanate. Not only were they allies, but they collaborated with each other on different scientific ventures too. They did eventually lose contact with each other, however the Yuan and llkhanate were closer to each other for a longer period of time than the other Khanates were. 

(Quick sidenote, Hulagu Khan actually commissioned an observatory to be built swiftly after the establishment of the iikhanate. I see Ilkhanate as being a bit more reserved compared to the likes of Chagatai Khanate and was the nerdiest out of his brothers. Also fluff headcanon but I think IIkhanate loved astronomy so much because when he was a small child and would cry at night, he'd be taken outside by Mongolia so as to not disturb others and the stars would calm him down.)

The ties between the Yuan and Ilkhanate was so much so that the Yuan dynasty kept suzerainty over the Ilkhans for quite a long period of time. This suzerainty was proclaimed over Ilkhan coinage, there was an active tributary relationship between the IIkhanate and Yuan dynasty, and Ilkhans sought after Yuan/Chinese titles, such as chingsang (grand councillor) and gong (duke). 

Because of this, Mongolia saw IIkhanate as sort of a "golden child". He never fought back against him or strayed too far away from him, he always listened to him when he wanted him to, he was the "obedient" one. This was evident even before Mongolia's children flew the nest and they lived under one (felt) roof. Golden Horde and Chagatai Khanate were constantly arguing or fighting with each other, meanwhile IIkhanate was just sitting there in the background. He never gave Mongolia a headache like his brothers did in his earlier years and even in the later years - the yuan and Ilkhanate allied together to defeat Chagataid forces. 

This was not necessarily a good thing for IIkhanate. Mongolia was also mentally immature during this time so did not have thie maturity to be a good father figure. This meant that not only could he not properly control the spats that Chagatai Khanate and Golden Horde got into, but he would then use Ilkhanate as a live-in therapist to not only vent about his two eldest not getting along, but also about anything that bothered him at the time really once he realised that IIkhanate pretty much would always hear him out. In this sense he parentified IIkhanate and was an overbearing parent to him, even after the Ilkhanate as an official state was established (previous example: the coinage.) 

About the coinage again. There was a period of time when the Ilkhanate tried to kind of break free from Yuan influence instead of deferring to the Yuan all the time. Under Ahmad Khan, the coinage of the iIkhanate would show Islamic inscriptions instead of inscriptions acknowledging the supremacy of the Yuan. However in some areas, it would show both (Islamic on one side, deferral to the Yuan on the other). However after Ahmad Khan, his successor Arghun deferred back to recognising the supremacy of Yuan rule. It is speculated that this move may have been encouraged by Khublai Khan (yuan dynasty emperor) himself. Mongolia was definitely overbearing towards IIkhanate, especially so when the Golden Horde and Chagatai Khanate flew the nest and became "rebellious" (The Kaidu-Qublai civil war, when Kaidu as the defacto leader of the Chagatai Khanate tried to overthrow Qublai, the IIkhanate supporting Qublai/the Yuan, the Esen Buga-Ayubarwada war, when it was Chagatai Khanate vs the alliance of the Yuan and Ilkhanate.) 

Under Ghazan of the IIkhanate, there was another attempt at trying to remove the IIkhanate from acknowledging Yuan supremacy all the time when he'd publicly downplay the Yuan's relationship with the Ilkhanate for Islamic codes and laws. Regardless, ties between the Yuan and IIkhanate remained relatively strong.

About the other two Khanates being "rebellious", even throughout all of that "rebellion" (in Mongolia's eyes), IIkhanate always remained an ally, which only further solidified his golden child status. Circling back to the Qaidu-Khublai war, this was essentially the Golden Horde and Chagatai Khanate coming together to repudiate Khublai's status as the great Khan, accusing him of turning his back on Mongol tradition in favour of Chinese laws. 

What happened was, when Khublai took the throne as the Yuan emperor, he invited Kaidu, but Kaidu refused. Khublai then urged the Khan of the Chagatai Khanate, Baraq to attack Kaidu. Although Baraq defeated Kaidu, upon discovering that the golden horde sided with Qaidu, Baraq, in turn, joined them. A subsequent alliance was born at the Talas Quriltai of 1269, and down the line, Kaidu became the defacto leader of the Chagatai Khanate. Ultimately, Khublai/the Yuan came out victorious, however during this time, the IIknanate supported the Yuan dynasty as opposed to allying with the golden horde and chagatai khanate against the yuan dynasty. The IIkhanate and Mongolia remained close, and Mongolia was an overbearing parent towards Ilkhanate despite the IIkhanate having pretty much it's own dominion. 

IIkhanate found it difficult to socialise and to form alliances. Quoting Christopher Attwood again, "The dynasty's traditional foreign policy revolved around three rivals, Mamluk Egypt, the Golden Horde, the Chagatay Khanate, and one ally, the Yuan Dynasty." 

Ilkhanate could only really consider his own father as a Stable/strong ally. To an extent he held some resentment towards his father but not enough to stop him from being needy. Not exactly the healthiest relationship. 

Also: Ilkhanate definitely isn't as uh, timid as he is on the surface. The Berke-Hulagu war (Golden Horde vs IIkhanate war) was mainly fuelled by the fact that some Golden Horde princes were executed under Hulagu's watch, apparently because of "sorcery." He was definitely sneaky in his own ways and this showed even when the whole family were still living together. He was quite the snitch. 

Ilkhanate: 

Favoured youngest child 

The more reserved/artsy one 

Also the nerdiest one - really liked astronomy 

Unhealthy attachment to his father

Somewhat coddled

Sneakier than you think he is 

Onto the Khenbish (Chagatai Khanate) I find him interesting. Being the middle child, I think he knew he had to fight more for attention, and resented the attention Ogtbish would get for being the eldest (even if it was only a marginal amount more because Mongolia was very much preoccupied with other things) , especially with the rumours surrounding the parentage of Jochi and golden horde representing future Jochid lands.

He'd tell Ogtbish that he was the adoptees’ ulus and that therefore he had no right to call himself one of Mongolia's sons. He'd instigate a majority of the arguments he had with Golden Horde and probably rubbed in how he was the first to be granted his own ulus officially in 1226 - a year before the Golden Horde despite the Golden Horde being the eldest, under the provision of Chinggis Khan (golden horde gained his own territories in 1227 when Chinggis Khan died.) He always saw himself as more strong-willed than his brothers, and absolutely turned his nose up at Ilkhanate's seeming dependence on Mongolia even after gaining his own lands and being granted dominion over them. 

Despite Chagatai Khanate and Golden horde arguably being the most keen on fighting for their father's attention and approval, ironically, ultimately they were the first to explicitly express their disenchantment with their father. Circling back to Kaidu-Qublai war, they believed that their father was abandoning Mongol tradition for Chinese. This situation can be seen as somewhat comedic if you see it as Mongolia's children rebelling against him because they don't like their new stepmom. I digress. 

Khenbish was odd. He was very much someone who clung to rules and tradition. This stemmed out of his need for Mongolia's approval - especially over Golden Horde's, so the harder he stuck to the rules, the more he respected tradition, the more (he thought, anyways) his father would appreciate him. So queue his surprise when his father established the “Yuan dynasty" in China and subsequently went through some levels of cultural syncretism with China (different from full on Sinicization). I'd say that Chagatai was a little irked at his leader - Baraq, at seemingly siding with Qaidu only after the Golden Horde Khan sided with Qaidu. Of course there was discontent about Khublai already there however the way things unravelled, it was as if Chagatai Khanate quickly took Golden Horde's side rather than again, the discontent already being there and it seemed like he only spoke out after he found out that Golden Horde had the same opinion. Golden Horde definitely rubbed this in.) 

Note: Qaidu was the defacto ruler of the Chagatai Khanate from 1266 to 1301. This did not mean that he was the official Khan of the Chagatai Khanate however he held massive amounts of influence and would appoint Khans himself.

The alliance did not last long. Qaidu defeated a major Yuan army in 1289 in the Khangai range, and managed to briefly occupy Kharakhorum - the capital. Nauruz, a commander from the Ilkhanate, led a rebellion in the same year in Khorasan, starting a succession struggle in the West, which allowed for Du'a's (Baraq Khan of the Chagatai Khanate’s second son) 1295 invasion of Mazandaran into Eastern Iran 2 few years later. Kaidu essentially told Du’a to take advantage of the situation and invade the Ilkhanate in order to spread his influence. This expansionism lead to Qaidu losing support from the Golden Horde.

Ultimately, the Golden Horde stopped supporting Qaidu after Mengu-Temur’s death and his successors, in a peace overture to the Yuan, returned Nomugan. This then urged Qaidu to return Hantum to the Yuan as well.

This was also definitely rubbed in Chagatai Khanate's face by Golden horde as, once again, it seemed like Chagatai Khanate was going along with things just because Golden Horde did it.

I'd say Mongolia was... annoyed, to say the very least when his own two sons went against him and accused him of all people of going against Mongol tradition and his own two sons became a thorn in his side. 

Chagatai Khanate really irked him in particular though because not only was he the most incessant in his attacks but Mongolia remembers just how keen Chagatai Khanate used to be when it came to pleasing him, only for him to end up like that. Mongolia found himself to be the most annoyed at Chagatai Khanate and his clingyness to tradition. Not to say that Mongolia himself did not cling to tradition, because that is exactly how the Mongols of the Yuan managed to avoid sinicization and Mongolia was not about to call the Yuan a Chinese dynasty anytime soon. However I guess Chagatai crossed the line in his eyes when he decided to try and dictate to him what he should and shouldn't be doing. 

In addition, I think Khenbish held resentment towards his father and brothers because he believed he was given the short end of the stick. Baraq Khan of the Chagatai Khanate in 1269 even complained that the Chagatai Khanate was a “miserable little ulus (realm)" compared to the Yuan, IIkhanate and even Golden Horde. The foreign policy of the Chagatai Khanate until 1300 was expansionist, so he was the main instigator of inter-Khanate conflicts as all of his neighbours were, well, his family.

Mongolia/the Yuan continued to battle it out with Qaidu/Du'a until their deaths in the early 1300s. A peace treaty was held in 1304, giving the Yuan nominal suzerainty over the other Khanates, but it was honestly never the same. I mean it was already fragmented after the 1260's however this peace treaty didn't actually do much to bring the four Khanates closer together or to help each other. For example, the IIkhanate’s decline in the 1330's was definitely seen as a good thing for Golden Horde who took full advantage and used it to become a major route for Mediterranean trade with the East. Queue 1304's most awkward family dinner ever though with Mongolia basically being like "...Well you guys still acknowledge my supremacy right?" 

As said before, Chagatai Khanate was almost unhealthily obsessed with adhering to tradition, even in later life. By 1344, the Chagatai Khanate split into 2, the Mongols in the West/Transoxania, and Moghulistan in the East. Chagatai Khanate came to represent Moghulistan, as they still revered the Chagataid lineage and culture wise - kept a lot of the original tradition. The broken off Western part of the Chagatai Khanate - Transoxania, adhered much less to the original tradition, quickly converting to Islam and becoming semi-nomadic rather than remaining fully nomadic. The Mongol ruling elite mixed with the sedentary population and integrated into the local settled lranic culture. The Mongols in Transoxania/ the West dismantled the power of the Chagataid elite and merely used them as puppet rulers, unlike Moghulistan who clung to Chinggisid/Chagataid tradition. 

In short: Chagatai Khanate (as Moghulistan) hated the Mongols of Transoxania and vice versa. The Mongols of Moghulistan considered the West to be too sedentary, too mixed, too non-traditional. The Mongols of Transoxania/the Western Chagatai Khanate considered the Mongols of the East to be outdated, uncultured and barbaric. Both sides attacked each other. At first, the Mongols of Moghulistan payed little attention to what the Mongols in West were doing, and elected strong leaders of Chagataid lineage, whereas the Mongol elite in Transoxania were struggling with a succession of puppet Khans. Moghulistan converted to Islam, and invaded the Mongols in the West, using religion partly to justify their invasions. To Chagatai Khanate (now as Moghulistan), he saw this as a triumph of tradition - the fact that his clinging onto old Chinggisid rule served him right in the end.

The Moghulistan leader, Tughlugh Timur (not the Timur of the Timurid empire) took advantage of the terrible state that the Western Chagatai Khanate was in and invaded - temporarily holding power there and bringing the two halves of the Chagatai Khanate back together again. Chagatai Khanate/Moghulistan definitely wanted to show this brat that he had a few more tricks up his sleeve. This did not last long however when Timur (of the Timurid Empire) and Amir Husayn expelled the Moghols, and fought to take Transoxania amongst themselves, much to the Chagatai Khanates/ Moghulistan's dismay. 

Chagatai Khanate: 

Typical middle child who acted up 

Probably the biggest jock out of all of his brothers 

Highschool bully vibes 

At first was obsessed with pleasing his father but came to resent him 

Loud/not afraid to say what he thinks 

One more factoid about Chagatai Khanate, when the Mongols were booted out of China, quite a few Yuan Mongol refugees made their way into the Chagatai Khanate/Moghulistan. Chagatai Khanate definitely found this amusing. 

Golden Horde and Kazakhstan

Now talking about (1) Central Asian and his relationship/feelings about the Golden Horde - Kazakhstan. I think Golden horde pretty much was. Dead/close to death when the "Great Horde" rump state was created. The rump state of the Great Horde was a product of the overall Golden Horde disintegrating into smaller units. The Golden Horde was officially dead by 1502 when the Crimean Khanate finished off the last remnants of the Golden Horde. The "Great Horde” rump state which included the likes of the Crimean Khanate, Astrakhan Khanate, and Kazakh Khanate happened in the 1460's I think was when he was pretty much on his death bed and the only lands he had left was Sarai, and little control over the caravan trade. So he would have been dead by the 1502 at most - when the Crimean Khanate finished off the remnants of the Golden Horde, possibly even a few years before. 

I don't think Kazakhstan was born as soon as the Kazakh Khanate was created, he was definitely around for a bit as the Kazakh tribes under the rule of the Uzbek Khanate. You could make a good argument that he was around even in the 14th century as it is specutated that from the 13-15th century was when the ethnogenesis of the Kazakh people took place. I believe, in hetalia terms, the Kazakhstan was "born" in the (very) late 14th century to signify this ethnogenesis as Kazakhs became fully emerged by the mid 15th century.

Another reason why I believe it is realistic to make Kazakhstan's birthdate around the late 14th century is because of the chain of events that lead tothe beginning of the Kazakhs. Urus Khan, son of Toga-Temur who was Jgchi Khan's 13th son, seized control over the Eastern Golden Horde - where modern day Kazakhstan is. The Uzbeks however, drove them out in the mid-15th century, and the descendants of Urus Khan (most notably Janibek and Kerei, his great grandchildren. Urus died in 1377) became the "Kazakh" (meaning free booter) aristocracy around the Xinjiang-Kazakhstan border. Hence why I think it would be logical to make him be born in the late 14th century, both to signify the ethnogenesis of the Kazakh people during this time and because this chain of events allowed for Kazakhs as a group to emerge/the events surrounding Urus Khan and his death and descendants was a major catalyst in Kazakh history that drove forward the emergence of the Kazakh people/aristocracy of the Kazakhs. 

The Golden Horde was in it's decline by the late 14th century anyways, so Kazakhstan never got to experience Golden Horde rule during its peak. To note: The Kazakh Khanate became a thing when the Kazakh's became dissatisfied under Uzbek rule, and under Janibek and Kerei, fled the Uzbek Khanate in 1459. The Kazakh Khanate was then established in 1465, and 3 years later in 1468, the Kazakhs fought against the Uzbeks for independence. 

What did Kazakhstan think of the Golden Horde? | don't think he ever met Golden Horde face to face to be honest. 

The Golden Horde capital of Sarai and where the Kazakh tribes were situated were some distance from each other, and quite honestly Golden Horde was both too busy dealing with his own issues, conquests, politics etc and really not in the mood to think about other nation personifications that were either popping up because of him or gaining power within him - as they only served at testaments to his potential doom. Despite this, Kazakhstan definitely knew of the legends of the Golden Horde. 

He was more of a legend figure to Kazakhstan than someone he had a tangible relationship with - being told he shared a resemblance to him when he was younger did give him a bit of a complex. | don't think this is something he obsesses over today (for the most part, I mean some Kazakh nationalists online are wilding and Mongolia can't help but waste time flaming them) but he definitely acknowledges his ties to the Golden Horde when it comes to his origins. For example, leaders of the liberal-nationalist Alash-Orda party until 1919 proudly traced their origins back to Chinggis Khan or Arghun Khan of the Golden Horde. 

More on Kazakhstan's personality these days: 

He's the baby of Central Asia but also the most successful 

Because of this he feels a lot of pressure to do well 

Smokes to deal with it 

Workaholic

Very particular on keeping a stable/good public face. Especially with Russia Kyrgyzstan sort of scolds him for not being meaner to Russia LMAO but Kazakhstan finds importance in keeping things professional

Might snap one day who knows but he's doing good for now

Quite big on Central Asian unity/comradery and usually organises the meet ups 

Which Uzbekistan finds really ironic considering that Kazakhstan breaking away from her Uzbek Khanate back in the 15th century is why he is who he is but oh well

Doesn't really like addressing the Soviet era but will speak about it objectively if someone asks him about it, both because it’s not a nice time to remember and also he'd prefer to give rigid responses so the asker eventually gets bored. 

Those closer to him get the full scoop

Usually seen spotted with Kyrgyzstan 

A bit of a space nerd he'll let you know that Yuri Gagarin took off from a launch site in his central country 

Interests: He's sporty! And really loves falconry. Very good singer

Uzbekistan: 

More religious/strict compared to quite a few of her CA counterparts 

Serious face 

I'd say she's quite disciplined and this extends to her work 

At times she catches herself being authoritative towards Kazakhstan because she sort of treats him like annoying younger brother . 

She's more reserved and tends to keep her personal feelings private. Less so for political/diplomatic reasons like Kazakhstan but because she prefers it that way. She's particular on who exactly she keeps close to her

Despite her disciplined exterior, she does have a compassionate side, particularly to those who have faced similar hardships as her 

Her faith is incredibly important fo her, especially given the history of religious persecutions in her country 

The second biggest player in CA beside Kazakhstan 

Kyrgyzstan's face when the babies are the most successful: 🙄

Difficult on/off again relationship with Kyrgyzstan (not in a romantic way) considering their history of conflict/comradery between each other 

Still doesn't have the best relationship with each other but Kyrgyzstan has to suck it up considering he almost entirely is dependant on Uzbekistan for natural gas 

Is a little bit of a gossip but you'd never know on the surface 

Interests: Reading, art museums, pottery, quilt making... gossiping 

Kyrgyzstan: 

A little bit. Batshit. But I say that in the most affectionate way possible 

Has a bit of a complex about Kazakhstan being younger yet more successful 

Cares a lot less about keeping a cool exterior/diplomatic face and can sometimes let out of pocket stuff escape him 

Not exactly happy about his position in Central Asia wealth wise 

On/off again relationship with Uzbekistan as said before and is one of the only people who have seen her more vulnerable side 

This didn't last long though and now he finds her overbearing and uptight considering how much younger she Is. 

Despite his somewhat emotionally erratic behaviour he too has a compassionate/understanding side, but this is unlike Uzbekistan.

With both, it's hard for them to let people in. However with Uzbekistan, once she let's you in she'll keep you close/you're there for life. With Kyrgyzstan, he has moments of vulnerability towards people who he secretly does trust and would consider his inner circle but will never explicitly tell them, and when that moment ts over it's gone in a blink and you wonder if it even happen 

Relationship with Tajikistan is a little rocky and he has a lot less of a filter around vocalising his grievances about her to her than Uzbekistan

If you're his friend though he is a ride or die 

Interests: Really big on poetry/ (epic of Manas anyone?), falconry/horseriding (tends to do this with Kazakhstan most of the time). Also goldsmithing!

Tajikistan:

Unlike Kyrgyzstan, she doesn’t mind being perceived as younger than the babies of the region as she sees that as adding to her natural youthful appearance 

Has a somewhat bouncy/bubbly personality 

However if something gets on her nerves she can get exasperated quite quickly but doesn't reach Kyrgyzstan levels of lashing out. Just sulks really 

Very proud of her history 

Isn't one to hold grudges usually however if there is an event that had happened to her that gets in the way of her #proudhistory narrative she can get sulky about it 

She admittedly does hold some resentment about being held under foreign rule for so long (since about the 10th century) 

Speaking about history, at times she can prattle on about her own history quite a bit like her close ties to Persia but she does like history in general. 

Is quite dose to Iran/Afghanistan 

Hobbies: I can see her being really into embroidery because a lot of Tajik arts/crafts includes embroidered wallhangings and bedcovers! I can also see her being a sporty/active to keep up with her “natural youthful appearance”, blasting Iranian music. 

Turkmenistan: 

Quite cut off/isolated from the rest of CA because of her government so isn't particularly close to a lot of people 

So in this sense she is quite reserved on the surface but inside she is kind of itching to talk to other people 

Because she's so cut off, to the very few people who she is close to or that she does talk to, she can be quite sticky/needy with them and has a tendency to overshare 

As mentioned before, she is itching to talk to more people/make new friends but at the same time 1) government 2) she is very cautious when it comes to falling under the influence of other nations (Russia, USA etc) so she sees it as a way of protecting her own interests

She kind of justifies the extent of isolation she puts up with by comparing herself to more unfortunate nations/neighbours and using excuses such as "It could be worse at least the food is cheap..." etc etc. — 

So, not the best coping mechanism but it's not as bad as the chain smoking Kazakhstan participates in 

As said before, she is reserved but her reserved-ness doesn't give the same sort of resting-bitch-face vibes that Uzbekistan's reserved nature does. People just look at her and think "oh she seems quiet” 

This does not mean she is shy though - just has hard boundaries with talking to new people 

I can see her really liking Turkey! I'd say that Turkey is a bit more enthusiastic about their friendship than she is because he is a bit of a larper lol but she really appreciates his company. Lots of Turkmen students go to Turkey and speak very good Turkish! 

Interests: I think she does a lot of reading but also I can see her doing beadwork/jewellery making to pass the time :3 

I hope you enjoyed reading !

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[elucubrare]

ultimogeniture is my favorite succession system because it's like if people got together in a lab to create the perfect conditions to encourage murdering children

#'inherent MY lands will you you little bastard!'

[dramatic-dolphin]

honestly authors that do agnatic primogeniture as their fantasy kingdom's order of succession are so boring, there are so many more interesting options

any matrilineal option: much cooler than boring old patrilinieal succession

ultimogeniture: spicy! every child can experience the sensation of being the heir and having that taken away from them by the new baby

partible inheritance: incredibly badly adapted to being a mode of succession for a kingdom, plenty of opportunities for drama with the kingdom fracturing and/or the siblings turning on each other

seniority and the rota system: who says only children of the monarch are eligible to rule? let's get their siblings and cousins involved too

tanistry: nominate a heir apparent from a different branch of the family! more or less nullifies the chances of the king's idiot son getting an entire country to rule

you can go even wilder, history will probably support it. mix and match stuff. the next in line for the throne is the king's youngest sister's youngest son. or the queen's daughter-in-law. or their eldest parallel cousin. sky's the limit.

[probablygoodrpgideas]

If a country in your setting is a monarchy, how is inheritence handled? Primogeniture, i.e. the oldest child inherets the title, is a pretty common trope, but historically there were many other!

A less absolute monarch might have their vassals vote on their succesor.

If you want to avoid short reigns, ultimogeniture, i.e. the youngest child inherets the title, might be a good solution.

Of course if this is a fantasy setting there are also many magic-related succession methods such as

chosen by an oracle

the most magically gifted child

reincarnation

[troutfur]

As we all know, I'm obsessed with the idea of injecting more explicitly dynastic politicking into WC and I love theorycrafting and pondering the possibilities of tweaking the rules of this society. To that effect I've thought a lot about different types of hereditary succession and how they'd play out within the society of the Clans. I've been wanting to share my thoughts for a while because I think they make for very fun thought experiments and they could be very interesting to explore in the context of OC stories or AUs.

So, without further ado, here's four styles of hereditary succession other than plain vanilla primogeniture that I think would be interesting in the WC world:

Succession by Seniority

I call this one the murderous uncle prevention strategy. Essentially, the principle is that rather than the monarch's children being next in line to inherit it's the monarch's siblings. At the death of the youngest sibling, said sibling's oldest child inherits, starting the cycle anew. Thus, inheritance passes horizontally rather than vertically across an entire generation before it descends again. Considering cats are born in litters, almost every leader is going to have a sibling or two around, usually a same-age sibling. This has the delightful consequence of making twin/triplet/etc birth order squabbling have pretty significant political consequences. I can see both comedic and dramatic angles to it. And while this type of succession reduces risk of uncles murdering their nephews since they're not threats to their eventual inheritance, this does incentivise children of the monarch to eliminate their uncles to ensure their father is the youngest sibling. So, there's another angle for y'all...

Ultimogeniture

The opposite of primogeniture, rather than oldest child inheriting it's the youngest. This style of sucession tends to emerge in cultures which place the burden of caring for one's elderly parents onto the youngest child whilde elder children are expected to go out and make their living on their own. With this cultural logic in mind it makes perfect sense why youngest children would be entitled to the lion's share of their parents' inheritance. When it comes to importing it into the world of WC there's already a cultural practice of the Clans that lends itself to it, the fact apprentices are the ones in charge to tending to the needs of elders. Thus, in this hypothetical Clan, perhaps the reason younger children of leaders are preferred is because there's a cultural belief that the values apprentice duties instill onto apprentices, qualities that mark a cat as leaderlike, degrade over time. Thus it is preferrable to have a leader as close to apprentice age as possible. Of course, this style of succession produces, on average, very young leaders, maybe even apprentice leaders. This opens the door for scheming regent plotlines which are always fun.

Succession by Tanistry

This one's the most sensible one on the list. Well, as sensible as you can make hereditary monarchy, but I digress. I've talked about it before on another post, so I'll be brief here. Succession by tanistry is a form of elective succession practiced among Irish and Scottish clans that has a hereditary element in who are elligible candidates. At the ascension of a new leader, the clan gathers to elect a successor called a tanist. The tanist must be an adult descendant of the leader previous to the current. This has the advantage of ensuring the leader has the Clan's approval, at least at the time of the election, as well as avoiding regencies on account of the tanist being underage.

Porphyrogeniture

Not so much a concrete style of succession as a strategy of legitimation that emerged in the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire. According to this principle, a child born of a ruler after their parent has taken the throne has a stronger claim on the title than their elder siblings born before their parent took the throne. This works in conjunction with the succession by appointment already in place in WC, such that a leader is expected to raise one of their children to eventually take on a deputy position with preference for those children born after he's taken leadership. I think there's one scene from The Broken Code in which ThunderClan nepotism was justified because "Leaders raise leaders" and this could very much play into it. Perhaps a leader is expected to pass on their leaderly qualities by being an example to their children raised under their leadership. I have a concept relating to this particular idea in my endless list of things to write concerning Onestar, a leader who I think is particularly fun for this as he basically went straight from warrior to leader thus whatever children he could hypothetically have before ascending to leadership would be blindsided by this whole thing. In the AU concept I have for it, Haresrping and Kestrelflight are his children and got aged up so that they are fully trained by the time they reach the lake, with Heathertail being their younger sister born right after Onestar took leadership. There's more to it than simply "Harespring gets jealous of his literal baby sister" but... yeah that's kind of the core of it.

#warrior cats #wc #warrior cats au #worldbuilding #feel free to snatch any of these ideas off my hands #please I want to read fic exploring all of these within the world of WC #and it'd be so much better if I didn't have to write it myself

[rnanqo]

sometimes I feel normal hunger cues and sometimes I just spend twenty minutes near tears trying to figure out if “ultimogeniture” has an adjectival form

#girl the word is not worth it just rewrite the sentence #ultimogenetic does Not seem right. I will not use it

[ailelie]

Story ideas for future stories

Yulia Belsky. This is an urban fantasy with Yulia Belsky who keeps Chicago (because I live in Chicago) safe from supernatural threats, but this was also my attempt at pulling what I enjoyed about Batman fanfic into a new story. So, Yulia also ends up mother and/or mentor to a group of young women who join her in fighting and negotiating with the supernatural creatures. Yulia also has a best friend who is a social worker who helps with the many fostering/adoption situations, but who also alerts Yulia to issues.

Gabriel Torres. This is a superhero story set in the modern day and is actually a series of short stories about how people with powers integrate with a society that requires all empowered people to be registered. Empowered people must receive permission to use their powers and are mostly shuttled to the police. Gabriel Torres' story opens, closes, and threads through the others. He is unregistered (and undocumented), but a definite hero for his neighborhood and popular. Then he gets caught. I've had this idea for over a decade, but have never really written it because it doesn't feel like mine to tell.

What happens after you beat the big bad? This was my 2022 NaNo. It is an epistolary novel, though I am seriously reconsidering that aspect of it. This has a rather large cast and focuses on the politics of running the country after you destroy the longstanding government (in this case the Immortal Tyrant). This is probably my next project should the current ever end.

Laura Church & David Conroy. This is a superhero romance story in which two strangers marry each other in Vegas. Initially both are intent on an annulment, but then the hotel is attacked and David (a mastermind-type villain) realizes he has married Halley, a powerful superhero. The two work together to save the hotel and realize the attack was part of a larger conspiracy. After that, David refuses to separate. Laura swears him to secrecy and returns to her normal life to report the attack on the hotel. But, their lives keep intersecting and the need to defeat the conspiracy before it acts again brings them together as well. Snippets of this story are buried in this blog.

Ultimogeniture. The heir to a kingdom learns that his newborn baby sister is the actual heir, but his father is dead and his mother dies in childbirth. His older relative would be her regent and the young man cannot let that happen. No one knew his mother was pregnant, though (she wasn't showing yet before they went into seclusion to mourn his father). No one save him, his deceased father, the midwife, and the midwife's assistant. So the young man proposes to the midwife's assistant and asks to pass his baby sister off as their daughter so that he can become king. He can abdicate in her favor when she's old enough. The assistant reluctantly agrees. Since she's been staying with the queen, no one knows she hasn't been pregnant. Romance does eventually happen, but the focus is on becoming a family and defeating the twisted politics threatening to ruin the kingdom. (This idea is from 2012)

#original #plots for future stories

[criffyzou]

It’s not often I get to enjoy 3 generations ruling conjointly. My mother was my seneschal/court doctor/spy master, yes she was the best candidate for all these jobs.

This is my iberian coterie save, so a lot of Al-Andalus is handled by my family. I got a throneroom event asking for either my steward or court architect to fix something and, my man, how to tell you, my sister is both of these.

Unfortunately malika Nur lived for so long, I had to change succession law to ultimogeniture; the daughter shown there did not inherit. Even her youngest child was 43 by the time I got to play her.

Also was anyone ever gonna tell me you could get an armillary sphere artifact for your throne room ? Someone got me the Ark of the Covenant and I still like my armillary sphere better.

#nabu plays #ck3

[aerial-jace]

Duchess Sibilla of Poitou, An Encyclopedia Article from an Alternate Timeline

Sibilla Karling was born sometime in the spring of 1035 to Duke Audoïn II of Poitou and Ecgfrida "Oakskin" of Wiltshire, Princess of England and Duchess of Galloway. Her early childhood was rather uneventful, but as she approached adolescence conflict, both political and interpersonal, between her parents would come to define her life.

Her mother, always a devout and faithful wife if the chronicles are to be believed, was enraged upon discovering her husband's marital infidelity. Very soon afterwards, she moved to press her claim on the Duchy of Galloway, conquering it from Duke Toumas II, Duke Audoïn's nephew, in 1046. Her betrayal of his dynasty was only the beginning however, as later in the year she would conspire to have him murdered. Thus, Duchess Sibilla ascended to the throne of Poitou at the tender age of 11 years old, left under the care of a regent appointed by her father.

In 1051, she got married to Loïs de Vasconia, grandson of Duke Obeko I of Gacogne. At the advice of her regent she granted him the county of Limousin to rule as his fiefdom. This marriage, however, took much less time to turn sour. Already by 1053 Duchess Sibilla had borne an illegitimate son with her courtier Ebles de Sozopolis.

1053 was a defining year for the duchess in one other way, as it was the year the Umayyad caliph Abdul-Jaleel the Magnificent conquered the kingdom of Aquitaine. Most Christian lords were stripped of their lands and titles but as the wealthiest among them, as well as her position on the border with the kingdom of France, the caliph allowed her to retain her possessions so long as she enforced jizya payments among her subjects.

According to the chronicles, the duchess felt extreme guilt at this turn of events, believing her sin to have brought this fate upon the land. In an effort to repent, she turned to supporting Pope Caelestinus II's efforts in organizing the Crusade for Aquitaine. Her financial contributions greatly aided the war effort so that even when she didn't raise her banner in rebellion against her liege lord she was lauded for her contributions.

When the crusade wrapped up in 1061, her realm was granted independence, but she was quick to swear fealty to the newly installed king of Aquitaine, Toumas II Karling, the duke Sibilla's mother had previously deposed in Galloway. Under her cousin, Duchess Sibilla proved herself a loyal vassal, always eager to deploy her troops in defense of the realm.

Though celebrated for her important role in the crusade, she was by no means free from all controversy. In 1063 she revised the succession laws of the Duchy of Poitou, instituting primogeniture in place of ultimogeniture, a tradition dating back to her great-grandfather King Ancel the Wise of Aquitaine. She also installed her former lover as the bishop of St Jean-d'Angély, taking advantage of the privileges of bishop investiture the Pope granted to King Toumas and which he in turn delegated to his vassals within their realms.

These actions struck many of her contemporaries as a blatant attempt at installing her bastard son, Robèrt, as duke as well as saving the reputation of her former lover. Because of this, many chronicles doubt she ever genuinely repented of her sin and thus called her Duchess Sibilla the Unfaithful until the end of her life.

Robèrt ultimately wouldn't inherit, even with the changes to the succession law, as he died of an unspecified illness in the autumn of 1088, aged 35 years old.

Sibilla would go on to have 7 legitimate children, 5 sons and 2 daughters: Duke Duran I of Poitou, Terèsa, Duke Borel the Unready of Galloway, Duchess Cloutilda of Brabant, Garcia, Sancho, and Doux Loïs of Epirus. Of these, only Duran and Borel held their titles by their own name, Cloutilda and Loïs held them by marriage.

The chronicles recount that Sibilla was a deeply involved mother and grandmother, raising most of her children and grandchildren herself with her husband's aid, only ocassionally leaving them to be tutored by another of her courtiers.

Sibilla enjoyed an extremely long reign, dying on the spring of 1107 at age 72, meaning she held onto her throne for around 60 years. She remained active to the end of her life, not only helping her liege lord repel invasions and viking raids but also taking part in the Crusade for Egypt that installed King Augustin the Guardian in 1098. Some argue that due to there being no records of her armies fighting in any major battles that this crusade was more of a pilgrimage for her, and an excuse to clean her reputation after having not participated in the previous one. But the same can be said of most of the other crusaders.

#showing off a little something from the thing currently consuming my free time #feel free to ask about my campaign while the details are still fresh #ck2 #crusader kings 2

[sims4royalsandimperials]

The names of top 10 people in your line of succession are thrown into a hat. The name drawn will be the next monarch. Who do you hope it will be and why?

So the top 10 people in the line of succession is determined by The Emperor, not by law of Primogeniture or Ultimogeniture, or something of the sort. That being said, I already know who the heir to the throne is, but I'll go ahead and name the 10 prospective heirs:

1. Sue

2. Linnea

3. Mel

4. Arina

5. Daniella

6. Lucas

7. Whitney

8. Elias

9. Jayne

10. Xander

#ask sims4royalsandimperials #thanks for the ask!!

[frimleyblogger]

The Ha-Ha Case

The Ha-Ha Case - an excellent Sir Clifford Driffield murder mystery from J J Connington #GAD #amreading #CrimeFiction

The Ha-Ha Case – J J Connington Published in 1934 and known in the States as The Brandon Case, this is the first detective I have read by the Scottish chemistry professor, Alfred Walter Stewart, under his nom de plume of J J Connington. As I enjoyed this, the ninth in his Sir Clifford Driffield series, I am sure this will not be the last. The book falls into three unequal parts and it is only…

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#Alfred Walter Stewart #J J Connington #Sir Clifford Driffield #The Brandon Case #The Ha-Ha Case #ultimogeniture

[crtalley]

not mentioned in the stm intro post but information that will find its own devoted posts eventually:

it's the first in a maybe-quartet, tentatively called Wizards of Trivenet; the main characters are Tam, Lyr, Tam's childhood best friend turned Cappellum dog Essa, and a fourth that will come to light later in the narrative

the worldbuilding is lazy and yet deep. terrible and wonderful. i adore it.

most families in Trivenet follow ultimogeniture, so the youngest child is the heir; when the Kathos family loses Tam and her next-youngest brother Iacò, that's like losing your heir and your spare in one fell swoop

85% of people in Trivenet are human, but that's because of their own fantasy racism — other fantasy races exist in the world, but in the context of Trivenet most of them are foreigners or pirates and are thus frowned upon

especially Heladrians, who are elves of a sort with the reputation for being quick, shadowy, and silver-tongued — Helàdra is Trivenet's closest neighbor and frequent target of invasion, most of its people displaced or killed over the last few centuries — and if you're in any way Heladrian / half-Heladrian / quarter-Heladrian then Trivenet will find every excuse not to trust you

my favorite favorite thing is Venesotto — Venet is the queen-city of Trivenet, and yes this entire world is based extremely heavily on Venice at least in terms of geography and some culture, and in magically-reinforced tunnels underneath the city and its lagoon there is a sprawling under-city with its own politics and economy, which is probably one of my favorite tropes of all time tbh, it's the City Under the City thing

anyway I love this wip. I love all my wips but this one is special to me; it's a fix-it reimagining of a world I grew up in, a Christian message fantasy series I read and reread and devoured that ultimately fell short because of its dependence upon the inherent goodness of Christianity and the truth of scripture; so STM is kind of a... an extrapolation of that into a more realistic society where God is less a real being and more an ideal, where religion is important but not always good, and where magic is a really obvious analogy for transness or gayness or disbelief or anything that doesn't fit easily into the structure of American Evangelical Christianity

#in which ve talks about vis writing #wip: strangers to mercy #this is a bunch of misc info #but I like hearing myself talk #so y'all get to read it too

[littlesparklight]

No actual thoughts about it, really, just think it’s interesting how, compared to Ouranos and Kronos, Zeus does share his power. Yes, he’s still the ultimate authority and power in a general sense, but he does not rule all realms by himself, which both previous kings did.

Zeus has agreed to share that with his brothers (which he undoubtedly wouldn’t need to do), and they have (near?) unlimited control of their own domains, since, for example, Zeus stops pursuing Asteria when she jumps into the ocean (Poseidon’s domain, though then in some versions she has to avoid Poseidon and only while doing that turns into what becomes Delos).

Zeus’ position as a high-king of sorts come with at least some sort of tacit agreement by everyone (see the Theogony, where they all agree to make Zeus the king). Something which dovetails rather neatly on how he has to (re)assert his power at different points in the Iliad, even if it’s entirely correct that he is the strongest (as him having to face Typhon alone because he’s the only one who can fight him would suggest).

It lands to Zeus to uphold the sovereignty of both his own and his and his brothers’ rule and the rules of the cosmos (both Zeus acting alone against Asklepios’ upturning cosmic order and Hades going to complain to complain to him about the same), as the ultimate authority, but Hades and Poseidon reserves right to power and authority within their own domains.

Presumably he wouldn’t have had to share, since the previous kings didn’t. Ouranos didn’t have either younger or older brothers to share with, but Kronos did, and he was the youngest to boot*. Zeus when he takes/is given the kingship, then also shares it (if not all of it), with his brothers, which would potentially weaken his position as all-powerful autocratic ruler, but theoretically offer him greater support from his co-rulers. Poseidon is salty at this state of affairs, clinging very tightly to how they have/should have the same authority while both the narrative, Zeus himself, and others, have both proclaimed and had him be proclaimed as the highest power. Poseidon would undoubtedly have been even more displeased if Zeus had kept all the realms under the aegis of the lone kingship, like the previous kings did. Hades is clearly more comfortable with this split than Poseidon is.

Was there a point here? Not sure, I just wanted to talk about how interesting I think the tri-partite rule is, even if Zeus remains the highest authority in the end.

*I think it’s neat how Zeus is both the youngest and the oldest, which, if you give a possibility to a previous system of ultimogeniture, combines both the “old” and the “new” system of succession in one individual.

#greek mythology #zeus #poseidon #hades #greek myth thoughts

[dramatic-dolphin]

haven't moved from the kitchen in two hours because i'm too busy reading wikipedia articles about inheritance & succession systems. anways agnatic primogeniture is obviously the most boring option. seniority is eh. matrilineal ultimogeniture? now that's spicy. partible inheritance for royal dynasties just brings up more problems than it solves, which is why it's clearly the best one. how did i even get to these wikipedia articles.

#going to create my own fantasy franken-inheritance system which will be the worst and most needlessly complicated #not sure how but i have faith in myself

[nails-teeth-neck]

I need to go back to my little fantasy ultimogeniture magic-woman-kills-all-present story :(

#nails.txt