“Respect all pronouns” until someone uses it/it’s, because apparently misgendering someone is less “dehumanizing” than treating them with basic human decency. Good to know we have our priorities straight, better make sure the cishets respect us misgendering eachother while THEY misgender us.
“Respect all pronouns” until someone uses neopronouns, because apparently these words are Extra Made Up, unlike those other words that just occurred naturally. Because we can’t use any words that have been invented recently (like selfie, *aesthetic*core, yeet, poggers, transmed, social distancing) or we’ll sound ridiculous!
“Respect all pronouns” until someone doesn’t use any. Because as much as you complain about every single other pronoun in the world, GOD FORBID someone not use any.
[if you fuck around on this post I’m calling you a little bitch]
So I’ve been seeing a lot of stuff related to Encanto recently and it’s been disappointing more often than not.
It is important for white people to acknowledge the overall meaning behind the film instead of solely focusing on things like sexuality headcanons and self-insert characters. I’m not here to judge whether or not it’s okay to have those things in the first place, but many latines find a lot of people’s interpretations very disrespectful to the source material.
Is it okay to find yourself, as a white person, relating to many of the themes in the movie? Of course. I (obviously) relate to Bruno’s story as someone with severe OCD. But this doesn’t mean you should, at all, undermine the overall message of generational trauma, specifically with latine families. I found myself doing so, because I have no experience with anything like that. I am a privileged, middle class white person who’s an only child. I have no connection to the overall story presented in Encanto because it wasn’t for me. It is not a film intended for white queer people. It is not a film intended specifically for anyone without a similar cultural background.
As much as I am thrilled to see a good portrayal of my disorder in an animated film, I know that it’s important to acknowledge the big picture before focusing on smaller details. You may connect with any part of any story, but that doesn’t make your experience the only one. Think about all of the Disney movies with mainly white protagonists, white stories, white experiences in western media, compared with all of the ones presenting POC stories. We feel the need to be included in everything because…we’ve been included in just about everything. It’s okay to take a step back and allow a story to be for the intended demographic that you don’t fit into. Think of all the times people of color or people belonging to ethnic minority groups have had to do the same.
Have fun with films but don’t distract from the original message. I think that should go without saying.
While <this post> was intended for other latine to think about, I can see why others have questions. It’s a very short post and I just wanted to get out the way that being latine and neurodivirgent is not mutually exclusive.
So many latines have a complicated relationship with their identity, especially when their culture overlaps with their ND traits- as in other people in the culture find it “normal” or “abnormal” etc.
Digesting the entirety of your identity, putting labels on it, is hard. Especially if the majority of the information being shared is ableist and/or based on white folk’s experiences.
However, a lot of people relate to a character for their ND traits, whether they’re latine or not. That’s normal, that’s good. You’re supposed to sympathize with people who are both alike you, and different from you.
What some latine are concerned with is, when the <latine> part of the character and narrative is ignored. Because culture is the base of the whole world for these characters, it’s the main context. (But remember, being ND also changes your worldview.)
So, if you’re asking “Is it ok I still relate to this character for their ND traits?” Yes, of course.
Again the problem arises when the latine part is ignored, as if “overshadowed” by these ND traits- divorcing them from the source material, like Encanto’s theme of generational trauma and how it’s placed in Colombia.
Note: Bruno’s rituals where written purposely as compulsions, that feel necessary for him to do. They’re also culturally relevant compulsions. Which is perfect for making him relatable to latines, ND latines, and ND folks in general.
(They can seem like a cultural thing, that Bruno has done more and more to ward off the “bad luck” he is surrounded by in a toxic family or that he thinks himself brings- which then gets into the trauma territory… But is it not traumatic to have your ND traits demonized in an ableist society/family? Like how people misinterpreted his gift? How others misunderstood what he said? To feel the need to hide? See what I mean? Being ND changes how people treat you and it changes your worldview).
1) Bruno can be latine, brujo or superstitious AND have ocd/autistic traits.
Neither identity is mutually exclusive...
You resonate with Bruno because he's a superstitious latine, cool! But others (especially other latines + colombians) can relate to him because he's a superstitious + neurodivergent latine. Let us be, too.
2) Personal thoughts on Bruno as neurodivergent latine representation:
It felt so right to see Bruno being superstitious along with being the brujo of the town (so latine and pagan of him) ALONG needing rituals to cope with his vision gifts and his family mistreating him (so trauma, so neurodivergent of him). His identity all felt so well tied together for the narrative purpose he served.
I think it does service to folk with Ocd to be seen differently than only "needing things to be clean and tidy" when he is the opposite yet has Ocd traits.
However I understand that sometimes white folk want to relate to characters (Nd Bruno) that do not represent their culture, and forget who the representation is for... And make the narrative about them. Which can be seen happening in the Encanto tags altogether. 😬
I may be overlooking something in which case do comment!
I don’t know if there’s already a post for this but here’s the gist:
DID is a stigmatized trauma disorder that DOES NOT manifest as harm towards other people. It causes the various states of being that exist in a child to never be able to fully integrate, resulting in systems with multiple alters living in one body. This is an extremely oversimplified explanation.
The show The Crowded Room would portray use the real life story of a thief and serial r*pist as DID representation. As a system myself, this is not only incredibly misleading, but also super harmful. There is virtually no positive representation of DID in the media. Anywhere. Maybe like one show. It’s sad. But there’s a lot of negative representation, like Split.
Since Tom Holland is such an acclaimed actor, I have no doubt they thousands, or even millions of people will watch this show if it comes out.
This will hurt us. This will hurt systems everywhere. This will make it scary to come out. This will make people fear us. This will breed hate.
Please. Please. Don’t let it happen. Sign the petition. PLEASE.
Here’s a very good video on it by the entropy system:
Transgender lives are important and valuable, and Trans people deserve to be loved just as much as much as cisgender and nonbinary people do.
With that being said a Cisgender person (or post-bottom-surgery-transgender/nonbinary-person) who is uncomfortable having sex with a pre-bottom-surgery trans/nonbinary person (aka a transgender/nonbinary person who still has the genitalia of their at birth gender) for whatever reason (trauma, sexuality, gender, personal preference against that specific genitalia) is completely valid and their discomfort is not an automatic indicator of them being transphobic/nonbinaryphobic/enbyphobic.
This is because while it is true a Transgender person does deserve love, that does not negate or override the bodily autonomy of the cisgender/post-bottom-surgery-transgender person and their right to informed consent over who they have sex with.
So if there is a cisgender lesbian (or post-bottom-surgery-transgender-lesbian) who is uncomfortable having sex, especially penetrating sex, with a pre-bottom-surgery-lesbian who still has a penis their right to choose and bodily autonomy means that they are not only valid in their discomfort but also that this discomfort is not an automatic signifier of them being transphobic or a TERF (trans exclusionary radical feminist). The same thing applied to cisgender-gay-men (or post-operation-bottom-surgery-gay-men) who are uncomfortable having sex with pre-bottom-surgery-trans-guys who still have a vagina.
confession: we once considered ourselves as an endo system as a way of denying what was actually going on. endo systems aren't actually a thing, but we were so in denial over being a system/remembering trauma that we used that term instead
i seriously think that endo systems are either 1) in denial, 2) traumagenic but can't remember trauma, or 3) are just saying theyre a system to slide into the plural community
systems are formed from trauma, so if you say you're an endo system you're just harming the DID/OSDD community. please take some time to really think about the terms you're using and if they're accurate or just causing harm
Hey. Treat fictives like fucking people. When they post art of themselves and ask you not to tag as kin dont fucking tag as kin. If they post art of themselves and explicitly state that its them, i dont care what character they might look like or take the form of, treat them with the same damn respect you would anyone else. If you would be uncomfortable with someone putting fucking “awooga” or objectifying shit in the tags of your selfies or self-portraits dont fucking do that shit to fictives. Even if you would be comfortable with that just dont. Think before you speak you dumbasses, your actions have consequences and words have effects. Treat fictives like real people. Because they fucking are. End of discussion.
A person with a somewhat masculine voice says in a higher pitched tone, “Blue hair is weird!” They then change their voice to their regular tone, and say, “I’m gonna teach you this how I would teach a child. I don’t know your life story, but for the sake of making this an educational video, I’m gonna use stereotypes, so only take what resonates with you.
One child is born in a seemingly functional, to their awareness, loving family, while the other is getting quite the opposite. You can’t choose that you’re born with it, so you’re put out in this world and the majority of your peers are like you, and the majority of your teachers, parents and authority are like you, and the majority of the media out there is showing people like you. So all of the kids that are not depicted by this media feel erased and different immediately from the time they’re born, how they are born. You may feel too feminine as a boy, too masculine as a girl, like you’re in the wrong body, like you don’t think exactly neurotypically as everyone else, you’re too thin, you’re too thick, you’re too dark, you’re not dark enough. Kids like this immediately understand the struggle of not being accepted by the majority, and if it’s not the peers doing it, keep in mind they have the same authority and media only depicting the majority of one type of person.
So both the outcasts and the masses are gonna ask the same question of how do I fit into society, and the majority of the authority and media is gonna be saying things like “God is the answer,” “man marries woman,” “girls are this way, boys this way.” You have a set amount of rules that if you have no reason to question, you’re not gonna disagree with. But when this world has taught you it’s not for people like you, you’re gonna ask, “why is it that way?” which brings us to, “who is teaching us this?” Oh, people from this era or earlier, who’s making this stuff, people in this era or earlier, “Let me do my research on who taught them that stuff.”
A common flaw with human beings is that they accept societal norms that are only in place for a little bit over their lifetime because they never lived to see a reason to question it. When you are born in a world that’s seemingly against you, you have reason to research why these traditions are in place, and you say, “Wow, if I happened to be born in the 1900s, pink was for boys and blue was for girls, and cheerleading is for boys and heels are for men, and the bible was changed to be anti-gay”. It’s almost like what we are taught is unreliable and not inherently factual, and in the time this was being taught, no one in the masses was disagreeing.
Everyone’s born in a box, but we weren’t all born with default settings, so we learned that humans can express themselves however they want. The way you think that only natural hair colors is normal, or how you dress is the right way, or blue hair automatically makes you weird, or pronouns equals liberal, that is taught to you. If this existed in the 1900s, this would be awesome [he points at blue hair], and this would just be english language [he points at pronouns]. When you’re wildly accepted by the masses, I see why you wouldn’t want to step down, you’re at the top of the pyramid. But the reason that we dye our hair blue is that the only people that wildly accepted us are other people who weren’t afraid of being different.
Now listen, maybe you just like authentically being a part of the masses, maybe your true self likes this stuff, that’s fine. But you also have to acknowledge that you were taught to avoid anything that would get you bullied or a negative reaction by the masses. So therefore, who’s really the top of the pyramid? [He flips the pyramid drawing upside-down].”
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