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Je suis Charlie, Io sono Charlie, I am charlie, أنا تشارلي, Είμαι ο Τσάρλι, я Чарли, ich bin charlie, 我是查理, 私はチャーリーです
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Comunist "Stalin" Chiesa speak english at Kuala Lumpur
Giulietto Chiesa the italian journalist, supporter of September 11, 2001 conspiracy theories, personification of Stalin (like political ideals), landed in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia India for the international conference "9/11 Revisited - Seeking the Truth" of 19.11.2012.
Chiesa was knowed also to have produced the film Zero, which has hundreds of errors (see Zerobubbole).
The video is publbied on pandoratv.it
Instead of speaking around the world, i hope that he should correct Zero and his misinformation.
Google translate for malaysian:
Giulietto Chiesa wartawan Itali, penyokong 11 September, 2001 teori konspirasi, perwujudan Stalin (seperti cita-cita politik), mendarat di Kuala Lumpur Malaysia India untuk persidangan antarabangsa "9/11 Revisited - Mencari Kebenaran" daripada 2012/11/19.
Chiesa telah knowed juga telah menghasilkan filem Zero, yang mempunyai beratus-ratus kesilapan (lihat Zerobubbole).
Video ini publbied pada pandoratv.it
Dan bukannya bercakap di seluruh dunia, saya berharap bahawa dia harus membetulkan Zero dan maklumat yang salah itu.
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Oystein recommended links
Oystein is an expert in chemistry and materials analysis that followed the discussion about the dust of Ground Zero in the Randi Forum.
He intervened also into discussion on the analysis of Niels Harrit for the 9/11 Trutther, and the new analysis of dust maked by Millette - Chris Mohr.
His blog (oystein-debate.blogspot.it) was an interesting voice on 9/11 debate.
A link that he referred is: therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz a blog that collect more American Airlines Flight 77 Evidence.
He also referred this useful link for the dust debate.
His conclusion on the Harrit's analisys of Ground Zero's dust: 7.5 kJ/g disproves thermitic material
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Danny Jowenko proof
More years ago trutther found into Danny Jowenko interview a roof for they conspiracy theorys.
The first interview of Joweko was recorded into Loose Change into 2006 (probably first edition) and he says that the WTC 1-2 was a natural collapse like every can see from videos , while WTC 7 was demolished.
Into Loose Change video, the truther argued that all three buildings was a controlled demolition.
However, the time required to mine the entire WTC 1 or 2 provided by Jowenko (the Jowenko expert and the Scot Forbes words), became an evidence against the conspiracy theories; into more forums, people began to speak of the Jowenko's analysis like an evidence against the conspiracy theories.
For this Jeff Hill, a supporter of no-plane theory (link), interviewed Jowenko by telephone on 22-02-2007 to confirm his words on the WTC7's controlled demolition. Jowenko came out completely in favor of a controlled demolition .... but only 1 year after he record another interview.
In fact, into 2008 ZemblaTV, producing a documentary to analyse the conspiracy theory linked with the 911's attacks and the Dutch television channel decided to interview also Jowenko, like the opinions previously expressed. On this interview Joweko repeat the words given into last interview, but following to reply of journalist for the first time he realized that more smoke see into videos pouring out from the WTC 7 building. This was unexplained like his first word on the resistance of explosive's detonators on fire (video).
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http://youtu.be/CwIQ79ZxWgc
Another time the expert opinion of Jowenko goes against conspiracy theories.
At the end it must be noted that no one journalist/conspiracist has never pointed out to Jowenko of the collapse of the west penthouse, before the rest of the structure. This would make the controlled demolition of a thesis even more unlikely
Unfortunately Jowenko died in a car accident in 2011.
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How to lose 6 years time?
A few day ago i have considered why the Gordon Ross theory is wrong to calculate the velocity of natural collapse of World Trade Center 1-2 when he mix anelastic hypothesis with elastoplastic hypothesis.
Now we can move from theory to practice. Architect and Engineer for 911 Truth, founded by Richard Gage, from 2006 has always professed that:
a natural pancake collapse with more floor that impact with other floor lose more velocity into impacts and require more time to collapse then a free fall (Gordon Ross PDF to demonstrate this idea)
the WTC complex collapse with a free fall (more analysis videofor this idea)
the only way to have a free fall is that the below columns was destroyed by explosives like thermite.
(N.B.-other error:confute theory 1 dont make theory 2 exact; thermite does not have the characteristics of an explosive)
Ok, but in addition to theoretical errors, what we have in pratice? In pratice time collapse show that dont is a free fall...
WTC1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAYXdafNl6E
WTC2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKqF9Tf-4s0
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William Rodriguez counts the money from the sale of his autographed photo with James Bond pose
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Fabulous Study for 911Truth: Moment Transfer by Gordon Ross
Today we consider Momentum Transfer Analysis of the Collapse of the Upper Storeys of WTC1, write by Gordon Ross, ME, June 2006 and pubblied on Journal of Fabulous study for 911 Truth.
Ross consider this:
-16 WTC's floors fall at 8.5 m/s, the weight and other parameters is take similar to Bazant's study.
-Bazant consider three phase of columns load into an elastoplastic model (not anelastic model!!!)
-Wave velocity in steel
Velocity = RADQ ( Bulk modulus / Density )
The propagation wave of the impact force would therefore travel a distance of 58.7 metres in a time of 0.013 second.
Then 58 floows have elastic deformation for every impact ....but he take only 16 floors (why?! becouse with 56 floor into a bad phisics demonstration he have the v = 0 and collapse stopped after 2-3 floor).
These storeys would thus suffe r an elastic deflection in response to, and proportional to, the failure load applied at the impacted floor. These deflections would themselves take time and allow the propagation wave to move further downwards again affecting more storeys.
With this he estimate 7 mm of elastics columns deformation for the 16 floors and for the Third Law of Newton (principle of action and reaction, F1 = -F2) and the moment transfer conservation (q1 = q2, m1*V1 = (m1+m2)*v2 + m3*alpha1*v2 + m4*alpha2*V2+...) he calcule a continue fall of mass that collapse, that was stopped after of joint the base of WTC.
Alpha-i was coefficients that consider a % of velocity based on a linear distribution of it with the floor (sixteenth floor / 16 floor, fifteenth / 16, ...first / 16).
With only 1 plans impact he calcule that: V2 = 16 * 8.5 / 28.5 = 4.8 metres per second.
Now the phisicals errors into this fabulous study for 911 truth is:
Consider an anelastic study with an elastoplastic model.
This is a really bad error!!!
An inelastic shock is based on an istant plastic deformation not elastoplastic, where the forces required to make the plastic deformation tending to zero.
With this assumption we can apply the third law of Newton and compare the force before the impact, due to te muvement, and the force after the impact, due to muvement.
dF/dt=0 and we take demonstrate the moment transfer conservation
F1=-F2 with F=ma
m*dv/dt=0 and d(mv)/dt=0 that dp=0 into 2 different time.
For this we take inelastic shock, in order to apply the third law of Newton !!!
With an pure elastoplastic model what we have?
We assume no linear buckling (that reduce the load that we can carge on a eulerian or not eulerian columns) and not any resistence reduction due to fast load charge or other similar resistence reduction due of unstatic load.
We consider a pure elastoplastic model, with a stress&strain behavior that have an linear behavior (and with the area an elastic forc in response) to the yield strength and an deformation with constant stress into plastic zone (deformation without force change to the break strain).
Into action and reaction, we have more columns that can oppose a force from zero to elastic force at yield strength.
This is a finite interval with an upper limit.
When if a suerior block of 16 WTC's floors fall into more columns we dont have a third law of Newton, becouse the columns can react only with upper limit of elastic forces.
First consideration is that the wave that diffuse into under floor (Ross consider 58 or 16 floor) was not controlled by the WTC's floor that fall (F = m*a = fall force), but is controlled by the elastic force reponse !!!
This was a really really really bad error of Gordon Ross.
Consider for example a pudding that have a really low yield stress limit.
If I put a finger into pudding i dont have any third newton's law and any reaction transferred by my finger to the pudding and dish plate.
Finger force goes to plastic and volumetric deformation.
We can take similar example with a jackhammer that shock a rock / concrete / wall.
With Ross unphsics model we have that we can apply moment transfert into partial wall area without any deformation consideration, as if there no need any deformation's law, also if into real wall shock with jackhammer we cant have a wall's muvement due to the hammer shock.
Unfortunately the scientific community consider that we can design/verify structural building with deformation law, and not with only balance of momentum transfer.. For this into university who study structural engineering or mechanical engineering make courses of building science or materials technology (but i suppose that people, like Ross, study...maybe I'm wrong in this supposition).
The third error of Ross is the assumption that velocity was distribute to the other floors in proportion with the floors and not with deformation law.
We can take for example the Terzaghi's effective stress law that schematizes the stress into terrain with a series of elastic spring, and see that we dont have a similar "floor distribution" that depends to the ground area that we take, but we have a stress law.
For this if we can take an really anelastic model (not elastoplastic) with balance of moment we dont consider a wave diffusion into WTC's columns to take more floor that reduce the velocity.
We need to consider an instantaneous break of floor shocked by the WTC's fall block (elastic forces and plastic force goes to zero) and an simply moment transfer balance (it is a really really really big simplification of an pancake collapse) that have with M1=M2=M3= ... M every other floor.
16*m1*v1 = (16*m1 + m2) * v2
or
v2 = v1 * (16/17) = 0.94 * v1
this really semplified model give only a 6% reduction of fall speed for every floor with not-linear progression.
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Richard Gage’s salary in 2009 from Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
That’s according to the 2009 Form 990-EZ available right now at Guidestar.org, an online organization that helps track non-profits.
The total revenue for 2009 – $344,570. The salaries for Gage and others topped out at $107,417. That means salaries constitute 31% of AE911Truth’s expenses.
In other words, Richard Gage’s salary is 21% of all revenue received by AE911Truth in 2009.
I’ll post a more detailed analysis of this (and the 2008 Form 990-EZ) later.
ETA: My detailed look at the 2007 Form 990-EZ for AE911Truth is available at the link.
Tired from http://ae911truth.info/wordpress/2010/ae911truth/75450/
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AEfor911Truth reaches 2000
Shocking discussion of truth:
> AEfor911Truth reaches 2000 engineeer/architects !!!
> Really ?! but in the U.S. there are about 1.500.000 of engineers and more other architects... 0.13% like Richarg Gage's organization. AEfor911truth is a statistical error?
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An italian article that speak of information's diffusion on the web with knowledge of Search Engine Optimization.
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A video on youtube show the base of World Trade Center 7, before and during the collapse. This point of view allows to know the exact progression of collapse. The link of video included is not the original posted by the author that record it. But the video is cutted on the middle point, where people can see a big cloud that expanding from the base. More says that this video is not included into NIST's released materials. No one verified this opinion.
What we can see on the video? First of the video's cut we can see the World Trade Center 7 covered by smoke, low cloud presence on the base plan and the west penthouse on the roof of the building. After the video's cut we cant see the west penthouse on the roof of the building (disappeared... but on more others videos we see that collapse before), and can see the cloud of the base expanded with "mysterious" force, followed by the collapse of entire building covered by the smoke...
Ironic time: it is very hard to know what happen...
Here more other images of smoke and fire on the World Trade Center 7
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Franco Guaini's report in Afghanistan 1998-1999. This documentary was recorded on Afghanistan during Taliban regime. On it can found more difference beetwen the Kabul life first and after Taliban war (1994-1998), and an interview at Mullah Akhudzader, responsible anti-narcotics of Taliban gouvernment.
Despite the words of a little group of conspiracy theorists (Afghan war begun becouse the Taliban stop drugs productions), he speak of the trouble to stopping the drugs production, as required by the ONU representant Arlacchi (probably Pino Arlacchi).
Other little references: image of presumed Bin Laden's house, and image of ghost heardqarters of Unocal at Kabul.
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One of the best Manhattan 3D model was make by Thierry Perrain. He construct a large model rendered in Cinema 4D with more than 2 milion of polygon. Not happy he chose to set the model into two historical time, and now work to build the New World Trade Center.
Image was tired from here: www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1241493 and www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1451080.
His website: manhattan3d.free.fr
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Psyco moment for Dario Fo at jubilation for the election's result of Beppe Grillo political party.
The conspiracy Beppe Grillo says that Dario Fo can make the new "Presidente della Repubblica", but Dario Fo retired him to proposal due to old age (and more italian people dont want it !!!).
The M5S party of Beppe Grillo follow more conspiracy theory: Bilderberg, 911,
seigniorage banking, etc...
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The idea to make a financial center on Manhattan born into 1946, from the World Trade Corporation with a plan of 140 million dollars. The plan was never maked.
After the 1960, David Rockfeller dreams to build a new financial center at Manhattan: the World Trade Center Project have a cost of 525 milions of dollars. Into the 1958 the Rockfeller's family participated at the foundation Downtown Lower Manhattan Association (DLMA). This foundation proposed various plan fot the social and economic development of the district. The DLMA was build 11 works, also with the World Trade Center buildings, a heliport, a civic center and with the idea to fill with earth some areas of the East River to create new building zone.
The 2 World Trade Center's tower was builded also with the help of Nelson Rockefeller, governor of New York between 1958 and 1973, grandson of David Rockefeller.
The Plan of New York City (1969) planned territorially the entire New York City, make an snapshot of the town and try to identified potential growth and estimate the criticity in order to plan for the long term the best territorial's solutions.
For Manhattan this plan considered the World Trade Center complex under construction and found the best position for the other buildings: the Battery Park City (residential area close to WTC complex), in front of the Hudson River; the civic center; the New York Stock Exchange in front of the East River.
Images from Plan of New York in 1969, courtesy of the Library of the University of Padua.
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