#BERRYNOSE is another big one. some ppl walked it back a little when he became an actual villain but some were like No They Did Him Dirty.

[pleckthaniel]

Actually I wanna talk about that post more. Not only does Warriors fandom dislike it whenever there is conflict in the story, they will also completely FLATTEN characters who DO make shitty choices in order to put them into one of the two character archetypes they do like, which are "Snarky/Mean, but morally Good" (usually with an added bonus of "Misunderstood" if male) and "Perfect Soft Nice Kind, and also morally Good." When in fact often the very thing that makes these characters interesting is that they are flawed and make bad choices.

#characters that have been warped horribly by fandom to fit into this dichotomy: crowfeather squirrelflight hollyleaf needletail #lionblaze (kinda. hes less a victim cause hes not super popular) shadowsight tigerstar II mothwing #probably more if i like sat down and thought about it this is just off the top of my head #all these characters are pretty much shoved into one or the other of those two Allowed Personalities despite all being wildly different #hollyleaf crowfeather and squilf are definitely the biggest offenders of this to me and lowkey this treatment of them has ruined them for m #i could write a lot more ab how they all diverge wildly from these fandom archetypes but i wanted to keep it short #BERRYNOSE is another big one. some ppl walked it back a little when he became an actual villain but some were like No They Did Him Dirty. #scout talks #wc