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#I really like villains who're OP but don't really look OP
hwoaarang · 3 years
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mitsurugireiji PLEASE
WAIT STOP I DIDNT THINK ANYBODY WOULD SEE THIS DSIODSDIOSDOS OKAY SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had this..........incredible idea while sitting in bed one day, my train of thought was like ‘ok what would be a total bitchin antagonist for dmc. somebody the entire sparda family would hate.’ and so I’m like..that’s Mundus right? we have that covered. SO.... what if Mundus had a SON.......(kinda piggy-backed off the whole sparda&co but bear w me) that nobody knew about (nero parallels hear me out) aND HE’S A COMPLETE GEN Z-er. 
I hit 3 birds with one stone because 
nero is in his mid 20s in dmc5 so it’s safe to assume he’s more millenial than gen z, he’d absolutely hate this demon e-boy 
vergil and dante are certified gen x, they wouldn’t know what hit them
demon e-boy is just such a hilarious concept for an antagonist. generational gap between demons?????????? 
dante and vergil: what the hell is a tic tac 
ALSO I love the idea of someone who is just even more obnoxious than the 3 sparda men combined
it’d give them an incentive to fight together also 
and a few trips down memory lane
also vergil would tear him apart...vergil chasing after mundus’ kin while said kin yells ‘OK BOOMER’ 
dante: I’ll GIVE you a boomer [pulls out an actual bazooka or smth]
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makiema · 5 years
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Okay so I have finally formed a concrete opinion after Chapter 121 on Eren and about the Rumbling (which seems to be Eren's plan). It's quite long but bear with me because I still have doubts about these and I need y'all to help me to see the loopholes here.
•Now, first things first, is Eren the "villain"? Hell no. There are no villains or heroes in this story and Eren does fit into the "anti-hero" genre but to brand him as a "villain" is foolish. I'm not white washing him. Of course, declaring war on the whole world is not justified but genocide? That is also horribly wrong. So it comes down to a clash of perspectives. Zeke,Grisha, Karl Fritz and Frieda- all of them are pacifists. That "I'd go along well with her" doesn't only imply Frike rights but also gives a certain group of readers a sense of solidarity through the pov of characters like Zeke, Freida and Grisha. This group as well as these characters are the ones who side with the Allied Forces (Marley + world) and wishes for the extinction of one race so that the world is saved. This does give them the right to call Eren a villain but it doesn't end there. From the perspective of those who're about to be erased off the face of Earth forever, it's just horrifying. So, Eren and Zeke - neither of them are wrong, they simply contrast each other because their povs are different. It's left to the readers to decide who they wanna side with. But to call the other side "villain" doesn't do because no matter how we see it none of the choices are justified; both end in horror.
• Genocide Vs Rumbling : When people talk about the rumbling, they make it look like innocents will be crushed ( like what happened in Liberio) but that's wrong because presently only the Allied Forces (the military) are attacking Paradis. If Eren does activate the Rumbling (I'm doubtful tho) the Titans will wreck the military force of the world and NOT the innocent people in the rest of the world. It's not like the whole world dies, it's the military that'll suffer the consequence and not civilians. Now, coming to euthanasia, if that plan works out, a whole race will be wiped off the face of Earth forever. This is plain genocide that affects not only innocent Eldians but is an outright denial of posterity; of future generations. Does anybody really have the right to take away even the possibility of a future? The way I see it, euthanasia is still more horrifying than rumbling. Don't get me wrong, I'm not supporting the use of Titans to trample on military but canceling out even the possibility of a different future is an even worse option.
• So which of the plans is likely to prevail? Undoubtedly euthanasia will fail. There's a lot of proof :-
1. Grisha spoils us by telling " your plan will fail" [Unless Isayama uses another Deus ex machina to convince us that the future can be changed too]
2. The last panel explicitly mentions " you are free".
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So feedom is achieved in the end. If Zeke rolls with euthanasia, there won't be any freedom, they'll be doomed to extinction. Therefore it is safe to conclude that euthanasia is not happening and that Eren will somehow stop Ymir no matter what. (Or someone even more op pops up and stops her I'm not ruling out anything at this point)
3. Eren's speech to Falco says that those who voluntarily push themselves into war see a kind of hope on the other side; but that's not a very happy end. The hope he talks about is also a sort of hell.
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Right after this comes Eren's advice to Reiner where he says that both of them are alike. So, even if Eren perceives the end he sees as hope, for Reiner (who's similar to him) it will be hell. There's no way any end can be achieved without incurring collateral damage. The basement revelation took Erwin's life and wiped out almost all of the SC so it won't be that shocking if the price of freedom (which has been the goal since day 1) is even greater. The Rumbling might just happen boys even if it's disastrous. Grisha said in the start he wasn't ready to pay the price for freedom so it's not surprising that he tells Zeke to stop Eren because he is still unwilling to pay a price this horrifying for the sake of freedom. However Eren will advance and continue moving forward to meet that end. He will walk down thhat path no matter how destructive it is.
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He's willing to take the blood in his hands. Everything that has happened upto this point has been influenced keeping in mind this future.
4. During the AT Vs Female Titan fight, Eren went full rage mode and said "I'll destroy the whole world". Could be a big foreshadowing of what's to come.
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• An alternative to the Rumbling : I hope with all my heart there's a third option like @shizekarnstein said in her meta and that both the extremes don't come to be. I'm being over optimistic but the wrecking just doesn't sit well with me. I don't completely agree with people who said Armin is apparently calling out to Eren in the audio of the finale, but if we think that to be true, it might be an indication of how Armin intervened to stop Eren from going ahead with the Rumbling. I've said this before and Eren did too (during the Serum bowl) that Armin will be the one to save the world. And clearly there's nobody better suited for the task. Armin is the one with diplomatic skills ; he can negotiate with Marley and rest of the world. He already suspects Eren in 118. If he has got a hunch that Eren will activate rumbling to wipe out the enemy , maybe he can stop him in the nick of time.
• Post Rumbling and Armin's role : Considering that the Rumbling is inevitable, we can assume a greater role will fall on Armin to ensure things won't go wrong in the future. The Allied Forces will incur a crushing defeat once the Rumbling is activated. This'll serve as a deterrent to any more plans of declaring war on Paradis for a long time. It'll take sufficient time for the Allied Forces to be strong enough to attack Paradis and the Eldian military can use this time to build up their own defence. And Armin would be the one to use this time to make peaceful policies. It falls on the narrator of a story to make negotiations and ensure the future don't repeat the same things. So if the story is one of war we can say that the future will have peace (Considering all the parallels of world history in SnK I'm indicating at a possible Peace Treaty or something to the effect of the UNO that works for peace)
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