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margoshansons · 1 year

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Yeah I get what you mean. The episode was fine for me but that was kinda it. There were some storylines I thought were interesting but I was disappointed they weren’t really delved into. Ted’s son bullied a kid, Rebecca presumably found out she can no longer have children, Zava retired and now Colin is back on the staring lineup, but instead of having these really interesting things focused on for more than like two scenes each we get half the episode devoted to setting up an ultimately futile and let’s face it, problematic, “relationship”.

I get ppl are excited abt Keeley being bi but I don’t get how some ppl are so focused on it being wlw that they aren’t paying attention to the fact that it obviously has no future. First off not only is Jack Keeley’s boss, she is the backer of her company. Meaning, Jack owns KJPR and literally holds the fate of it in her hands. So it’s Sam/Rebecca x100. Jack seems cool and hopefully the relationship really is just two ppl having no strings fun for a bit, but we don’t really know her – this could potentially end very very bad for Keeley. Keeley is not over Roy, it’s too painful for her to even say his name, and a part of the reason they broke up is bc she didn’t have as much time running a new company. And it is heavily implied that they will get back together, we even see them holding hands in the trailer. What happens if Jack wants a relationship? She absolutely has the power to destroy Keeley’s career if things go badly. What if Barbara finds out? She’s very by the book, I could definitely see her reporting them both. I’m glad that the show is letting Keeley be less than perfect and make (really big) mistakes but I am STRESSED for her! And I feel so bad for Roy. He really thought he was doing the right thing for both of them and I just want them both to regain their senses and just fucking make each other happy again!

First off anon, all of your feelings are valid.

And second: as a bi woman myself, as much as I loved seeing actual rep on my screen it was soured so quickly because I have no fucking idea what the writers are doing with Roy and Keeley.

Keeley has had a tendency to define herself by her relationships and what I’m hoping this thing with Jack is a) a fling which brings her back to Roy or b) a parallel to Tedbecca.

Neither of which serve Keeley or Jack although the latter would be much more interesting.

As for…everything else. It just felt like a filler episode to me. It was already implied Rebecca had fertility issues (I.e. her calling the psychic cruel when she brought up that she’s going to be a mother) and Zava’s whole retirement felt super rushed. I honestly expected more of a reaction from the players and Ted but we didn’t get one and we didn’t even get a realization that he was bad for the team.

Also idk I feel like a lot of the players have taken a backseat? This season?

Like there’s almost no Roy exploration outside of his relationship and we could get a very compelling narrative about Isaac but we’re not and I love the Colin storyline but it seems like it’s the only one we’re getting.

anyway bottom line, didn’t like the episode for a lot of the reasons you listed and more

#ted lasso #ted lasso spoilers

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masterthespianduchovny · 10 months

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no one fucking gaslit you but yourself. I a! so goddamned sick of the tedbecca shippers appropriating the actual experiences of actual abuse survivors to whine about not getting the ship that was very clearly never going to happen, and acting like having yet another bland straight white couple is somehow groundbreaking television.

y'all write whole goddamn essays about how you're so oppressed by *shit that did not fucking happen*. it's fucking tedious. your sydcarmy ship isn't happening either and I hope you die mad about it too

all y'all are doing is exposing yourselves for thinking that a woman only exists as a whole for your fave fictional white men to fuck and I'm tired of the endless tantrums in the tags about it

sorry you're incapable of media literacy and didn't immediately get the incredibly obvious joke in the finale but that's a personal problem. congratulations you played yourself. next time don't brainwash yourself with gifsets instead of watching what the show actually does. goddamned immature brats

Ooh, chile, you shouldn’t have told me that you’re sick of us spamming the tag because I’m going to make sure to write even more here and spam it all fucking day, baby. Thanks for that. ☺️

Now on to your bullshit post:

1. No one’s appropriating anything. You seem like the person who believes that only army veterans can have PTSD. Newsflash: that’s false just like your understand how who can be effected by gaslighting is false—it’s broader than you believe.

2. I’m a fucking black woman, let’s not get into politics over shipping because you will lose regardless of race. The show is predominantly WHITE and to ship either of the leads with the black men on the show, which has canonically happened for a pairing, is problematic as fuck.

3. Whoever said they were fucking oppressed, you need to talk to them NOT me. However, I can criticize what I deem as POOR writing. That’s not oppression, that’s a grievance that writers can learn from in the future.

5. I have a fucking degree in CINEMA AND MEDIA STUDIES. The lowest grade I ever received on film and TV analysis was a B and that was because I was trying less than usual. I’ve been apart of film/tv and have been on the crew of independent movies—even got an IMDb credit for it. I was briefly an English major before switching to cinema and I’m currently writing a book, this is all to say:

I very likely watch tv (and film) more intently than you do and ever have. I break down character, plot, dynamics, tropes, themes, etc subconsciously and can recall small details and plot points that most people cannot.

I’m in the process of being a guest for a movie podcast, launching my own movie and tv podcast in a few months, and writing an article on the function of filler episodes in tv, both past and present.

So while my criticism is focused on a ship, it’s due to my intimate knowledge of tv, my education, and career path. The goal is to end up as a writer of movies and tv. Like, I’m true to this, not new to this.

I don’t give a fuck what you think is tedious. Bad writing is bad writing. It’s why Ted Lasso was shut out at the TCAs and will likely have very few or NO Emmy’s because the last season was terrible. The final episode doesn’t make any since even when you don’t account for Tedbecca. If you bothered reading that tedious writing, you’d know that. Don’t worry, I’ll write a post and flood the tag again.

The bantr reveal fake out does not make any sense if they never intended to AT LEAST explore ted and Rebecca’s feelings. That’s taking up important space in the narrative. We literally didn’t need it. Setting ted and rebecca up as soulmates regardless of it it was romantic OR platonic with NO pay off is BAD writing. Harping on their connection only for them to spend most of the season apart and very little screen time with ted being inattentive to rebecca in the last episode is BAD WRITING.

I’m sorry that you don’t know what bad writing looks like, but media literacy is being able to discern narrative consistency and how writing qualify influences that.

Part of the criticism of Tedbecca is that if it weren’t going happen, why were all of those unnecessary details there?

The other problem is that is was gaslighting because of how the writers, producers, and Jason interacted with fans. They led fans on, and Brendan was an asshole about the w tire thing during his AMA.

Like why in the fuck is Jason saying, “what if you had a crush on your boss” and invoking Nora Ephron? I don’t want to hear any bullshit about subversion when 1. The writing wasn’t good enough in the third season to subvert shit 2. Outside of shipper complaints, the show has fallen off hard in SM discourse. Went out with a whimper!

5. So wanting Rebecca AND Ted together means we think a woman only exists for our fave fictional white man? Mighty presumptuous of you to assume that Ted is my fave white man—that’s Mike Lawson and Fox Mulder. Even then, many who ship tedbecca are rebecca/Hannah stans and are actually pissed that her storyline didn’t involve therapy and focus on her professional life more. Hell, she didn’t even get adequate apologies from Higgins or one from Nate. The romance is only one of many ways the show has failed her and it has been discussed at length on Twitter. Please keep showing how you’re all assumption and don’t read or maybe you just lack comprehension skills. You’re the one exposing yourself here and lack the self reflection to understand that.

I suppose that’s hard when you have one brain cell. Don’t work it too hard!

We’re immature, but you’re sending anon hate mail to me because you’re upset. LOLOLOLOL!!! People have the right to complain if they want for long they want, get over it. The real immaturity is being unable to deal with the fact that people feel differently than you, not understand why (may be due to the one brain cell), and attacking us over it.

6. There’s no reason for me to be upset if SydCarmy doesn’t happen. While I do believe a foundation is being laid, The Bear can actually maintain high quality writing. So whatever they choose to do, even if it’s not marking my ship canon, I have confidence in the direction they choose to go.

7. Your head is so far up your ass that you think people didn’t get their pedestrian joke. Lol. You’re defending writing that, for TWO SEASONS, painted Jane as an abuser and that Beard needed to get out of their toxic relationship only for them to get a happily ever after that glosses over said abuse. Keep in mind that Jane fucking SHREDDED his passport.

Come get your clown make up kit, you’ve earned it, dear.

Because I want you to explain and justify THAT to me.

Let’s also breakdown Ted’s narrative arc, which doesn’t make a lick of sense and was changed in the third season.

Or how Jamie and Roy fighting over keeley was nonsensical.

And that Michelle’s ex was sabotaged narratively in the last ep and I don’t even like that dude.

Or how keeley and rebecca wanting to create and run a woman’s football league is random as fuck and has never been discussed, teased, alluded to, or anything else.

You think this is the first time a ship hasn’t happened for me? Hell, I’ve had one half of my ship did and they were CANON at one point. As a matter of fact, it was TWO ships only one canon and, for the latter, there was rampant RACISM going on behind the scenes.

Because I don’t know who else, if anyone else, you’re sending these anon messages to, but I’m very well versed when it comes to fiction and I don’t fuck around. I stand ten toes down in everything I say because it’s backed up with facts and careful thought.

So if you want to get into, we can get into it, but I guarantee you, you’ll be exposed as a fraud of who doesn’t know shit about fuck.

We can do this or not, the choice is yours.

#bear anon mail #I’m not going to bait you in the tags #but you’ve been warned #anon ted lasso mail #I’ll write and tag whatever the fuck I want and you’ll deal with it #and just to let you know I find this shit humorous so you can’t wear me down #lol

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