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#I'll keep giffing cause this my coping mechanism
duahauuoplanh · 9 months
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From the first day we met, my world has always been full of you.
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staliaqueen · 1 year
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happy midnights release mal!!! in sibling order I think that maroon is a peter pevensie song, lavender haze is a susan pevensie song, anti-hero and would've should've could've are edmund pevensie songs, and you're on your own kid is a lucy pevensie song
Thank you for sending this ask!!! The #narniataylor agenda is one of my favourite things to talk about, and I love that you wanted to talk about Midnights and Narnia with me. I'm saying all this because I'm about to disagree with you a bit but I really don't wanna upset you or make you think this is anything more than a friendly discussion. I would actually love if you responded to this with your deeper thoughts behind your song to character assigning. 💜💜💜
I don't really think Anti Hero is an Edmund song, simply because he isn't an anti hero, by the actual literary term. Like with all character labels like these, there's some debate as to what exactly defines an anti hero, I for one do think that if the character has a redemption arc they're not an anti hero, which is why I'd exclude characters like Prince Zuko from that list, but I am aware that this isn't an official criteria. The Wikipedia article states that the Merriam-Webster dictionary defines it as a main character who lacks heroic qualities like idealism, courage and morality. Edmund possesses all these traits. He's not an anti hero because his mistakes, the things he needs to redeem, aren't really caused by an inherent character flaw of his. Edmund's problem is his coping mechanism. He's a child living in war who misses his father and feels left out by the rest of his family, which is what causes him to be so mean. He's just wants to be seen (x). And the movie even makes a point of how these same circumstances are making Peter and Susan act out too. They're all just children trying to deal with things the best they can but they end up hurting each other in the process, and in the end all of them get redemption from this simply by mending their relationships. As for the Jadis thing, that mistake doesn't really put Edmund in the anti hero category because he doesn't really know what he's doing. Edmund just wants to become an ice prince (and who wouldn't?), he doesn't know that he's joining a war on the side of a tyrant, and as soon as he realises that he wants out. He immediately regrets it, because he is a good person and death and destruction, especially of his loved ones, isn't what he wants. And if we move away a bit from the literary term anti hero, and just towards the song lyrics, "I'll stare directly at the sun but never in the mirror" doesn't fit Edmund at all because the second he identifies his mistakes he does all he can to correct them. Edmund does nothing but stare in the mirror. Even just his self loathing speaks to this. He's so aware of himself! The only line I really see fitting him is the "Too big to hang out" part, because it speaks pretty well to how he feels left out in the beginning. Despite all this, though, I do think that this could be an Edmund song if you look at this from his perspective. I can imagine Edmund listening to Midnights and identifying with Anti Hero, because of his previously mentioned self loathing.
I've said before that I love comparing songs about abusive relationships with Jadis and Edmund and Would've Could've Should've really is the perfect example of that. I'll probably definitely gif it sometime. The lyric "But, Lord, you made me feel important" stands out to me a lot as very them, as that is exactly how Jadis manages to manipulate Edmund. Also "And now that I'm grown, I'm scared of ghosts Memories feel like weapons" because of how she keeps haunting him. I also like this as a Lucy and Aslan song, simply because I am very passionate about the fact that Aslan is to Lucy what Jadis is to Edmund. I don't think it fits as well, but I REALLY like the line "Give me back my girlhood it was mine first" in this context (but I also think it fits all the Pevensies relationship with Aslan).
Regarding Maroon, I don't really see it as a Peter specific song, I just think that the lyrics "And I wake with your memory over me That's a real fucking legacy to leave" is ALL the Pevensies with Aslan like It really fucking nails that. I do also see this as a song Peter would like listening to. Like I think it would be his favourite Midnights track.
The song that stands out to me as distinctly Peter is actually Labyrinth. I mean "You know how much I hate that everybody just expects me to bounce back Just like that" is SOOO Peter in Prince Caspian (I'm talking movies here obviously because they're better). The whole thing is veeeery aftermath of getting tossed out of Narnia but it feels especially Peter to me since he's the only one stuck in the hurt of it all "It only hurts this much right now Was what I was thinking the whole time Breathe in, breathe through Breathe deep, breathe out I'll be getting over you my whole life". Susan is insisting that they accept that they live in London now and that they should adapt, Lucy keeps her faith and is convinced they will return and that everything will turn out fine, and Edmund is just there as a silent support for Peter, not really speaking about it much. Peter is the one who's lost in the labyrinth of his mind and who's constantly breaking up, breaking free, breaking through, breaking down. And the "I thought the plane was going down How'd you turn it right around" part works with how with the support from his siblings, especially Lucy's, Peter manages to turn the situation around, take back Narnia and feel better about leaving. I think the "Oh no, I'm falling in love again" part can be interpreted two different ways. Firstly, that Peter is falling in love with Narnia all over again when he returns but knowing he has to leave again. Secondly, if you're on that Caspeter agenda like I am, it could be him falling in love with Caspian and not knowing how to handle it so he pushes him away and argues with him. Generally, I just really love this as a Peter song.
With You're On Your Own, Kid, it's the song I personally identify with the most, and since Edmund is my personal projection pillow, I'm inclined to assign it to him, but I see where you're coming from with Lucy. I don't think it's perfect for her, but it does kinda go with the same theme as this Lucy gifset I made. Just... what the movie!VDT arc should've been. I think it applies somewhat to both Edmund and Lucy with the "They're the oldest and we're the youngest... we don't matter as much" angle.
At first I didn't really see what you meant with Lavender Haze being a Susan song, but I reread the lyrics and now I totally agree! I like that a lot actually. I think it covers her arc in LWW pretty well. I sent an ask all about Susan to @clarasamelia a while ago where I partly got into my view on that arc. She hasn't answered it yet and I'm too tired to reexplain it now but I can send it to you when she does if you want. Short version is it's Susan abandoning her quest to be "adult" about things and getting swept into Narnian culture and thinking. In this context, the "lavender haze" being the Golden Age.
I also wanna add that I think The Great War works really well as a Pevensie sibling song. It’s about what I alluded to earlier, WWII tearing the family apart and Narnia giving them the chance to grow and mend their relationship. I think it fits Peter and Edmund the best (x), but it really works for all of them. 
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